Libya's struggle has been the bloodiest so far in the region. Mass protests quickly turned into a civil war that killed thousands and paralyzed the country for the past eight months. Gadhafi's hometown of Sirte was the last loyalist stronghold to fall last week, but Gadhafi's son and one-time heir apparent, Seif al-Islam, apparently escaped with some of his supporters.

Abdul-Jalil paid tribute to the Gulf Cooperation Council, a six-nation alliance led by Saudi Arabia, the Arab League and the European Union. NATO, which aided the anti-Gadhafi fighters with airstrikes, performed its task with "efficiency and professionalism," he added.

 

President Barack Obama congratulated Libyans on the declaration.

"After four decades of brutal dictatorship and eight months of deadly conflict, the Libyan people can now celebrate their freedom and the beginning of a new era of promise," he said.

But just hours before that statement, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Britain's new defense secretary, Philip Hammond, said a full investigation into Gadhafi's death is necessary.

 

Hammond said the Libyan revolutionaries' image had been "a little bit stained" by Gadhafi's death, Hammond adding that the new government "will want to get to the bottom of it in a way that rebuilds and cleanses that reputation."

"It's certainly not the way we do things," Hammond told BBC television. "We would have liked to see Col. Gadhafi going on trial to answer for his misdeeds."

Clinton told NBC's "Meet the Press" that she backs a proposal that the United Nations investigate Gadhafi's death and that Libya's National Transitional Council look into the circumstances, too.

 

An autopsy confirmed that Gadhafi died from a gunshot to the head, Libya's chief pathologist, Dr. Othman al-Zintani, said. However, the pathologist said he would not disclose further details or elaborate on Gadhafi's final moments, saying he would first deliver a full report to the attorney general.

Libya's acting prime minister, Mahmoud Jibril, said he would not oppose an investigation, but cited an official reporting saying a wounded Gadhafi was killed in crossfire in 2002 following his capture. Addressing the celebrations around Gadhafi's body, Jibril told the BBC in an interview on Sunday: "You have to appreciate the agony that people went through for 42 years."

 

The 69-year-old Gadhafi was captured wounded, but alive Thursday in his hometown of Sirte, the last city to fall to revolutionary forces. Bloody images of Gadhafi being taunted and beaten by his captors have raised questions about whether he was killed in crossfire as suggested by government officials or deliberately executed.

Gadhafi's body has been on public display in a commercial freezer in a shopping center in the port city of Misrata, which suffered from a bloody siege by regime forces that instilled a virulent hatred for the dictator in Misrata's residents.

People have lined up for days to view the body, which was laid out on a mattress on the freezer floor. The bodies of Gadhafi's son Muatassim and his ex-defense minister Abu Bakr Younis also were put on display, and people wearing surgical masks have filed past, snapping photos of the bodies.

 

The New York-based group Human Rights Watch, which viewed the bodies, said video footage, photos and other information it obtained "indicate that they might have been executed after being detained."

"Finding out how they died matters," said Sarah Leah Whitson of Human Rights Watch. "It will set the tone for whether the new Libya will be ruled by law or by summary violence."

The Syrian-based Al-Rai TV station, which has served as a mouthpiece for the Gadhafi clan, said the dictator's wife, Safiya, also demanded an investigation.

"I am proud of the bravery of my husband, Moammar Gadhafi, the holy warrior, and my sons who confronted the aggression of 40 countries over the past six months," the station quoted the widow as saying in a statement.

 

The vast majority of Libyans seemed unconcerned about the circumstances of the hated leader's death, but rather was relieved the country's ruler of 42 years was gone, clearing the way for a new beginning.

"If he (Gadhafi) was taken to court, this would create more chaos, and would encourage his supporters," said Salah Zlitni, 31, who owns a pizza parlor in downtown Tripoli. "Now it's over."

The long-awaited declaration of liberation starts the clock on Libya's transition to democracy. The transitional leadership has said it would declare a new interim government within a month of liberation and elections for a constitutional assembly within eight months, to be followed by votes for a parliament and president within a year.

 

did you see the video of his capture where he appeared to be sodomized before they killed him?

 

I believe it's been well established from reports that Gaddafi was executed. If that is the case, it was perpetrated by an individual who only months earlier was a civilian who may have suffered the impacts of the brutalities of a vicious dictator and his emotions driven by civil war and oppression drove him to commit this act.
I'm not suggesting I feel he was justified, but that I understand the circumstances and motives if that was indeed the case.
It's been suggested elsewhere ( which I'm still trying to find again so I can post it) that operatives may have been in the front lines to ensure any possibility of Gaddafi testifying be eliminated to prevent him from revealing damaging issues with involvements of other nations. Unlikely, but possible.
If there is an investigation and an individual is identified as the executioner, what would be his fate?
What would the reaction be of the citizens of Libya if he was convicted, or faced a death penalty?
What would be the backlash if the middle eastern peoples felt he was being convicted because of intrusions by the west?
Would that possibly create further tensions?
Again, interesting times.

 

See, I told you Stumbler didn't know what the fuck he was babbling about!

Here you go, Stumbler.

Mr Abdul-Jalil went further, specifically lifting immediately, by decree, one law from Col. Gaddafi's era that he said was in conflict with Sharia - that banning polygamy.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ical-than-expected-plans-for-Islamic-law.html

I know what the fuck I am talking about and you don't!

It isn't any fun for you to make all kinds of noise and call me names when you can't back up your bullshit, is it, Stumbler?

Stumbler,
It takes surprisingly little effort to prove you don't know what you are talking about.
:excited:

 

This is my favorite part.
Stumbler, did you actually click on the external link in the Wiki post you cited about polygamy in Libya?
You know, the external link cited in the first line of the post that claims polygamy was legal under Gaddafi?
I did.
It leads to a 404 error because the page doesn't exist.

Looks like you can't be bothered with a little effort to actually know what the fuck you are talking about.
Have a better one, Stumbler! :excited:

 

I know Stumbler read my recent posts and chose not to respond.
Too much effort for him I guess.
I think it is more like Stumbler realized that all the names he called me in his lame posts applied to Stumbler.

 

That fact was as plain as day if you watched some of the footage up to the time of his death, two guys there in particular when he was captured and loaded onto the truck, notice the black tshirts under the body armor amongst other things...classic 'advisor' issue.

 

"Specifically, the Gadhafi era ban on polygamy was nullified "immediately by decree" of Jalil..."

http://mdjonline.com/view/full_stor...polygamy-ban-?instance=lead_story_left_column

I keyed that from my phone, was top result of google search for "Lybia polygamy" if i typo'd the URL. The vast majority of the result headlines mention that polygamy ban lifted or that polygamy now legal.

Getting lazy? You usually at least look before claiming something can't be found, this is so 'in your face' it surprises me you would deny it so adamantly.

 

Because Christ telling us to love one another it's so comparable to the pedophile warlord false prophet and his 'convert or die' campaign that rages on to this day ...most recently with the aid of our military in Libya.

Maybe you forgot how the Egyptian 'rebels' treated that journalist as they gang-raped her and chanted 'Jew! Jew! Jew!'? Or how the very minority christians are almost extinct now with repeated bombings and no protection from the police (who DID protect them under the 'evil' Mubarak?)

Stumbles, the movements you align yourself with are telling.

 

Actually you're the one getting careless there EastTexasBoy. Maybe you should not count on your phone to not make the same right wing noise machine false propaganda.

I have not found one sourece that claims polygamy was banned in Libya under Gaddafi.

Here's what I'm finding:

http://i-cias.com/e.o/polygamy.htm

http://www.law.emory.edu/ifl/legal/libya.htm


And while I'm at it here's Sharia law under Gaddafi. Which kind of shows living under Sharia law is nothing new to Libya.

http://www.law.emory.edu/ifl/legal/libya.htm

Isn't that the same Holy Bible that allows "Prophets" like Warren Jeffs to fuck 12 year-old girls? Isn't that the same Holy Bible Scott Roeder quoted? Hey how about those Davidians down in Waco? Same Holy Bible isn't it?

And how about those Christian hypocrites like yourself that run around praising Jesus on one hand while you bear false witness on the other hand. Trying to claim to Lara Logan was gang raped and that had something to with Muslims when it was actually a mob of out of control men and she was actually saved by Muslim women.

Here's what happened:

http://wizbangpop.com/2011/02/20/cbs-reporter-lara-logan-explains-her-attack-in-egypt/

And like sexual assault like that and gang rapes don't occur in good ol' Christian US.

That's enough to piss me off TexasBoy given the amount of violence against women in this country you phony hypocrite.

 

Sorry stumbles, Mormons have their own book. It's called the 'Book of Mormon' and it is decidedly NOT the Bible.

David Koresh was writing his own book when the feds burned everyone up. It's worth noting that CPS had JUST finished a lengthy investigation into the Davidians and found no evidence of abuse or illegal activity.

The chanting of 'Jew! Jew! Jew!' while she was gang-raped (to whatever degree) is not disputed. She was rescued FROM THE MOB by a couple of people. The violent and hateful mob vs a couple of decent people ...yet again the group you align yourself with and defend speaks volumes.

How nice of you to marginalize her assault, just a misunderstanding among peaceful folks 'eh? Me thinks you would see it differently if it were a woman special to you personally ...but maybe not with your twisted view of right and wrong.

 

The Mormons use the Holy Bible as well.

But what's your excuse for pedophile priests? Join them?

And what happened to your bullshjit claim that polygamy was banned under Gaddafi. You can sure run your mouth but aren't man enough to admit whey you're wrong are you?

No, you just come back with more excuses and empty bullshit.

And I don't condone any violence sexual or otherwise against women. I'm just not a big enough liar and hypocrite to try and condemn an entire religion for the actions of a few.

That's the place for hypocrites like you.

 

stumbler didn't respond to your post because you are right and he was wrong.

 

Liberals are the ones who make excuses for sexual predators, not me. Punishment would be considered 'cruel and unusual' if I had a say in it.

Polygamy was in fact illegal in Libya, the law was overturned by decree immediately following his ouster. If the law didn't exist there would be nothing to overturn dumbass.

HUNDREDS of men attacking her, a few women saved her. Seems like you certainly are judging the many based on a few.

At least we can rest easy knowing that the last traces of secular government is being eradicated in the middle east. The US military and it's power is accelerating the process under direction of president obama, yay!