Exactly right, I have been going to brothels for 3 years, some men do think they are objects and speak very badly to them (the bouncers ususally kick them to the curb quick smart) they are ladies and should be treated this way. I tend to treat the 'encounter' as a real date

 

Being from the Adult Entertainment Industry, Let me put in my two cents worth...

In most countries, prostitution -- exchanging money for sex among adults -- is legal. It is illegal in only a few countries -- in the United States (except for ten counties in the state of Nevada), India, Argentina, some Muslim and Communist countries. The reason it is legal is the general attitude that prostitution does no harm, has no victims, and is sex among consenting adults. Laws against prostitution discriminate against women's ability to make their own choices.
[FONT=&quot]Prostitution should not be a crime. Prostitutes are not committing an inherently harmful act. While the spread of disease and other detriments are possible in the practice of prostitution, criminalization is a sure way of exacerbating rather than addressing such effects. We saw this quite clearly in the time of alcohol prohibition in this country. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]What makes prostitution a 'victimless crime' in the sense that no one is necessarily harmed by it is that there are consenting adults involved. It is estimated that if prostitution were legalized in the United States, the rape rate would decrease by roughly 25% in the US. [/FONT]

 

WHAT?!?

I only dare to remind you about self esteem...

In rest, it's quite clear to me that you have built yourself a "garden of roses"...

You say about consensual sex - where the heck is the consensual sex, when the man who is paying tells you:
"Get down on your knees and suck it!"

Where the heck is the consensual sex when a guy, just because he has the money and he's willing to pay, looks at your pictures and chooses to have you, his decision being granted by a call he makes at the "enterprise" where you "work"?!?

Personally, I both despise and feel pity for the women who, instead of doing something constructive for themselves and for the society where they live, just choose the "easy" way...

Now, about prohibition - it was meant to do not let people consume alcohol - in this case, we are talking about women that are to be "consumed"...
So, I come back to my original question: what about self esteem?!?

 

I can't talk for women, but referencing from what others have posted here, it's still a choice they chose, unless forced against their will, which I believe is wrong. But if she controls the situation and sustains her own business, isn't she doing a good job?

The self esteem a woman has is also hers to choose. Unfortunately there are many prositutes that don't have much self esteem, they'll do anything for little money, perhaps because they have a pimp telling them to get them money. It looks that most of the reasons each woman enters the business is situational. It's like strippers, except they are protected, but isn't that close enough too?

Society has a big impact on this. You have women who need jobs, and in america with a recession, women look to make money their own way, by any means necessary. Or certain women can be raised in a negative household and in order to get away, they have to scratch at the bottom of the barrel to get out of their poverty. Some do just give in to their life and accept it, others may be trying to overcome it.

Like all things, there are two sides to the coin, and a lot of bad things are said about prostitution because many people choose to exploit it in ways other than what it is meant for.

 

With smart phones and internet access you can find a escourt easily. Women don't have to walk the streets and put themselves into danger.

 

What is self-esteem? Self-esteem is how we value ourselves; it is how we perceive our value to the world and how valuable we think we are to others. I think it has little to do with the kind of job we do, and more with our perceptions. One could be the President of a Big company and feel that he has not realised his potential, which was far higher. Another could score with a Girl his friends tease him about and feel very accomplished and full of self esteem. These terms are comparative. Your Question...Where is Consensual sex when....etc. does sound more rhetorical to me. Such circumstances occur in every job. Are there no compromises in every job, where one does things he or she would rather avoid? I dont think these women need pity...Its a career choice that needs to be respected. I think what has happened is that over centuries religion has filled so much of poison into sex that the sex act itself has come to signify some form of Sin.

 

From a very early age I've learned, due to practice, that sex is a mutual pleasure...
I've always received, but also given pleasure simultaneously...
Therefore, if a woman or a man exploits the partner, charging him/her for sex, I am definitely determined to consider that that person has problems regarding self esteem...
Furthermore, don't think that I have too much sympathy for the people who pay for having sex!

Now, regarding religion, I do believe in God, but this does not mean that I believe what church preaches...

 

Ovid, I respect a lot of what you say ( and see your point ) but I have to disagree somewhat.

Here's the thing : the only reason an escort or their client may not have self-esteem is because there are people out there that would look down on the practice and try to shame them.

My theory is that sex is and has always been transactional, except the pattern is to secure a ( marriage ) contract, if you want to look at this in an anthropological view. Women stand a lot to gain by locking in and locking down a husband, and the harlots that are out there making "micro transactions" are in their eyes giving away the game. Now I realize modern society is not so traditional, but back when men were the sole bread-winner and women were domestics, sex was the trade-off. Sorry if this sounds chauvinistic, but if women didn't have a pussy, men simply wouldn't fuck with them! I believe the Christian sexual ethics at play here come about because its a way of protecting women's interests in a traditional, pre-modern society.

Anyway. Here's my thought. Women are sexual animals; let them do whatever they want to do, but also try not to make their life worse by forcing them to BE a vulnerable part of society. Legalize all this and let the state regulate it, so they can depend on police protection, pay taxes, be regularly tested for STDs, be able to form legitimate businesses and trade guilds, and dispose of the pimps. I for one wouldn't mind joining a "club" that required its clients be tested as well.

 

Historically prositiution was wildly a common profession for women. If they got rid of the pimps and human trafficking that plauges it-it could be a safe and easy line of work. It just needs proper regulation to insure the safety of the woman and man involved.

 

Every time a woman performs a sexual act, a commodity is exchanged. Every time I fuck I am engaging in prostitution; the pussy may be given away for free, but it is a possible object of commerce.
Every woman must ask herself, to what extent is her pussy traded for friendship, respect, emotional intimacy, and security.
Ok so now I will fuck you. Now what do I expect? Will you love me? Will you be honest with me? Will you expect to know what I am doing tomorrow night? Will you let me into your private world, more than you would if we had not fucked? Will you tell me what you think about? Will you expect me to keep your secrets? If I do not fuck you again do you expect an explanation? If I could not pay my rent would you give me a loan? Will you listen to my problems when I am upset? If I had a fight with my roommate would you let me sleep at your house for 3 days? Would you walk with me somewhere at night when I am afraid of rape or attack? Would you introduce me to your circle of friends?
Why or why not?
Do your answers change if I fuck you more than once over a period of time? How long does it take? What if you know that I am also fucking someone else?
Pussy is never free!
It is exchanged in the hope of establishing social kinship ties. Everyone knows the easiest way to make friends is to fuck someone with a lot of friends. Their friends will most likely accept you into their social kinship structure. They will expect you to come along to their parties and they may even make friends with you as a separate entity, not just as an adjunct to the person you are fucking.
So what if you stop fucking the original person? Will their friends still be your friends? Depends on how long you were hanging around.
The actual fucking merely establishes a false sense of intimacy that is not be respected, once the pussy-the commodity-is withdrawn.

 

For most woman prostitution is something entered into out of desperation, poverty, sometimes coercion. Woman are enslaved, held captive and forced to work and sometimes these woman are not even woman.

This stuff goes on not just in the slums of India or some third world country but in the appartments next door to you or I. It simply isnt as easy as to say that it is a simple transaction between to willing players.

The woman addicted to drugs who feels the only way she is able to get her next fix isnt in any real sense a willing player neither is the woman held captive and forced into prostitution. Of course as a guy willing to pay for the service you probably will never know about the other side or what happens after you have cum and walked off down the street.

I appreciate there is a paradox at work here and there are some woman who do enter to it willingly and take control over how it works and treat it as a profession much like any other. But for the relatively small number of woman like this there are hundreds who live dangerous lives at risk of rape, beatings and murder. Woman who are exploited by pimps and who dont get to choose when they work, who they see as a client and who dont, have fat bank accounts and comfy plush appartments to relax in at the end of a day.

This notion that it is simply a mutual exchange between two willing participants is wholly flawed

 

If you really need to know anything ask Pussy Patrol he runs a whore house!

 

hm thats given me something to think about

 

Now, just for the pleasure of contradiction, if any...
We do have, in our human history, matriarchy...

In the present times, just as an example: If your father is a Jew, and your mother is not, than you are NOT a jew!!!
If your mother is a Jew, but your father isn't, than you are still a JEW!!!

Please let me go back to what I have originally stated: I do believe in God, but I don't believe in what the church is preaching!
And... I'm an Orthodox! The most "easy" (please read: permissive) religion you can "receive" when you are born...
I won't get into details!...
This would mean to transform XNXX into something that it surely has not been designed to be!...

 

Done properly and with respect for a talented artist the worlds oldest profession could be a tremendous force for good. Any courtesan worth her salt is a good confidant, councillor, is up on current events, well read, skilled in the erotic arts and therapeutic massage when needed. One stop shop for stress relief, unbburdening, sounding board and should have the same kind of ethic about confidences that the confessional gives. In ancient china and other cultures they have been very well respected at times and scoring one for a wife when she retires (wealthily) has been considered a coup. They are more than just a quick fuck. They should be a skilled and health screened professional. You can get a quick fuck, or get spoiled body, mind, and soul. What if you could spend rush hour this way and then go home? Fed, happy, eased.

 

That was hot, and pretty much on the money when I get a massage lol

 

God bless prostitutes, hookers, escorts, etc.

I'm currently getting a BJ from a prostitute who lives in my building, while i'm posting this lol, I started reading this thread and decided to call her over, well time to stop typing and start fucking her have a good one guys

 

Women have been putting out for money for a bazillion years and that isn't going to change anytime in the future...EVER. The practice is called 'marriage' and the woman usually provides a steady supply of sex and a few other services while her husband or 'client' goes out, makes money and pays for things like food, shelter, clothing, transportation, medical care, etc. The primary difference between what we know as prostitution versus marriage is that marriage is a long term business relationship with legal ramifications that include alimony, child support and other things that are found under the heading 'severance package' in the contract, where escorts and their clients rarely have any sort of long term arrangement that includes cohabitation or the production of offspring or severance packages.

And ladies...I know you are all going to think of me as a bitter, insensitive, misogynistic asshole for having the unmitigated gall to equate marriage with prostitution. Especially in light of the fat that many of you work jobs of your own when not fulfilling your roll as hooker at home. But you and I both know that women have been doing this since the dawn of time with absolutely no remorse. Additionally, you and I both know that every one of you has used her feminine wiles to subject unsuspecting men to a good fleecing for drinks and dinners out and movies and concerts and flowers and gifts and free oil changes for your cars, knowing full well that you never intended the relationship to last much longer than a box of cupcakes at a weight watchers convention.

Nothing personal...I just find paying an escort for sex to be far more honest and straight forward than all the dancing around trying to bullshit my way into a woman's pants while she tries to bullshit her way into my wallet.

 

I'm not one of "those women", but I think I know why many of them act the way they do. They have been taught that way by men who want to keep their women to themselves, by a society lead by men, by standards set by men and religions lead by men And then those men have the nerve to blame the women for thinking those actions are wrong!!!
If you can't accept that your wife sell sex, don't go buy it from others.
If you can't accept that your wife have sex with others, don't cheat on her yourself. Do to others as you want them to do to you, works for me.

 

I totally disagree. Feminists like to claim sexual repression is all caused by male dominance, and that may be the case in Muslim cultures but I live in america where women's sexuality is regulated by other women. There's plenty of what I call "slut shaming" and it's always by women. Men like slutty girls, men like easy girls, they are fun and not just because of the sex, they tend to be real laid back and chilled out and nice to hang out with. You talk to girls who are a little slutty though and they almost always tell you they don't get along with other women and have few female friends if any. Women are hard on other women, they shame them, shun them, and if that doesn't work they are actively cruelk and abusive to them for "breaking the rules".

As far as prostitution goes I know a lot of women are extremely opposed to it. I don't think they are mad at other women for selling pussy though, I think they are just mad at them for selling it so cheap. Honestly, a hooker is cheaper than just dinner and an evenings entertainment for a girl, and that doesn't even take all the costs of long term relationships or marriage. Who buys a hooker a house, a car, and let's her take his credit card on an all day long shopping spree a couple of times a month? No, hookers are basically frugal, and that's what really gets other girls pissed. They are selling it so cheap they are cutting the pussy marketplace costs way down, and for most girls that means hookers are just letting down the side.