Now watch Hollande lose his country.

And watch the fall of the European Union.

As for Black Lives Matter....

BLM is funded by Soros, who is getting rich on stock futures by betting against the future of western civilization.

Who are BLM's rank and file? Mindless jungle savages.

 

With low IQ's, just like Charles Murray says.

 

Racist.

Charles Murray didn't call them mindless jungle savages.

I did.

Not because they're black. There are whites among them, and the whites are mindless jungle savages as well.

This isn't about racism or race.

They can be white, yellow, red, or pink with purple polkadots. I don't care.

People who act like barbarians are barbarians. People who act like mindless jungle savages are mindless jungle savages.

 

You are a sanctimonious hypocrite. You know full well that what I say about racial differences is true.

 

Sounds like you're desperate for one ally.

Don't mistake pity for support. If you're anything like this in real life, you're easily the most racist person I've ever known.

 

I've given many warnings on Islam for years, since 9/11 to be precise. I've lost friends in the process. People are living in denial, keeping their heads in the sand. If by now, after 29 thousand terrorist atrocities since 9/11, I'm not sure what it's going to take to get you in touch with reality. Maybe the death of your child, or your sister, or your father at the hands of one the millions of Jihadists that inhabit our planet. Hash tags don't save lives, filters on profile pics do not save lives, John Lennon's imagine does not save lives. People think I hate Muslims, far from it, I'm equally trying to protect Muslims, after all they are the ones most likely to die at the hands of Islamists. Isn't it interesting how the news media wont show the footage of this Islamic barbarian mowing down scores of people. But they will show you up close footage of a black man (resisting arrest) being killed by a white cop. That's because they want to you angry at cops, but they don't want you angry with people that align themselves with the cancer that is Islam.
There are people with blood on their hands who are not muslims, and those are the regressive white liberals which will not allow us to publicly address the problem, or even acknowledge who is responsible, let alone discuss or implement a solution.
Here's a tip for America. Don't allow Muslims to emigrate to your country unless they are willing to draw a picture of Muhammad. That should filter out the reasonable minded ones from the fucking retarded ones.
I'm not going to warn people any more, I don't think I need to. The people in denial can keep on kidding themselves all they like, deep down they must know this is a vile religion. NOT ALL, NOT ALL I hear you screaming. Not all are terrorists, but the vast vast majority, including moderates hold some views which I find utterly insulting and unworthy of anything but criticism.

 

I too have been warning people for years about the dangers of Islam but all I get are accusations of being a racist, a bigot or a mindless hater. It's like these people have their heads in a fog, and thought they read the news, they refuse to accept Islam for what it really is.

Over the years I've tried to moderate my speech by calling the Jihadist "Radicals" or "Extremist" but the fact of the matter is that Islam itself is radical and extreme. Islam teaches its people to hate all those that are not Moslems and to kill or enslave all those that will not convert. That's just the plain truth. ISIS and other groups like them are not following an extreme or radical version of Islam... they are only following basic Islamic doctrine.

The only difference between those Moslems that are doing the killing and those that are sitting at home is that the activist are more devote to their religion. Jihadist are just Moslems that piously fallow the teachings of Mohammed and the Koran. So, from now on I'm going to stop using the terms "Radicals or Extremist" From now on when I describe Moslems that are killing people in the name o Islam, by the term that most accurately describes them. I'm going to call them "Devote Moslems."

Maybe that will help them understand.

 

Will there be another crusade?

 

In the laws of Sharia, they'd be innocent of the charges. It takes 4 male witnesses to testify in court about a woman being raped by another man. So, 4 guys have to stand there and watch your daughter getting gang banged for you to be able to have any chance of their asses going to jail.

With only 3 men doing it, the chances are she would be buried up to her neck in the sand and stoned to death for bringing shame to her husband.

If you're caught stealing something, they'll chop off your right hand (That way you have to wipe your ass with the same hand you eat with..) so, why not chop off their balls if they rape a woman?? In fact, make that a law all over the world.

When I was deployed to Haiti many moons ago while in the Air Force, we were told "If you see a woman getting raped, don't do anything, just keep going.. You don't know the reason behind her getting raped." What crime could she have committed that would justify her being raped?

Amazing what some countries have for laws..

 

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has suggested testing all US Muslims to see if they believe in Sharia, and deporting those who do.


Western civilisation is in a war. We should frankly test every person here who is of a Muslim background and if they believe in Sharia they should be deported," Mr Gingrich told Fox News.


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36806380

 

I've been reading these forums for quite a while now, so far without registration and merely to keep up with authors/writers and that kind of stuff. Although I didn't really plan on creating an account and posting anything, there are a few things I wish to say on this topic I've just stumbled upon.

Let me say first of all in reply to the question that started it all, that people are capable of living together peacefully with muslims. I truly and honestly believe that this is within the realms of possibility in any western country, because I have seen it happen in practice over the past two and a half decades.

I grew up with refugees from a war, I have and have had friends who happen to be muslims. Many from my age group/my generation are happy here, they certainly don't know anything else to compare it to, but most of all, as far as I am able to tell anyway, religion does not have the highest priority in their lives as it might have, if they had grown up elsewhere. I was born in the early 1980's in a European country that borders on Germany, Italy and the former Yugoslavia, part of which is now Slovenia, after it became an indepdendent state in 1991. The war that caused this geopolitical rearrangement caused hundreds of thousands of people to flee their homes and settle in other European countries in the north, most notably Germany and Sweden. Two thirds of the ninenty thousand Bosnians that came to my country as refugees never went back home after the war was over. Lets also not forget the tens of thousands of Turks that came as migrant workers in the 1960's to 1970's, a lot of whom stayed in the country to start families. With their birth rates being more than twice as high as our own, over time that number grew a lot and today it amounts to about half a million Turks and their decendants; a significant number, considering the country's total population of only 8.6 million.

I have been leading up to it, so here's my point: you can live together with muslims in peace and friendship, but that requires concessions from both sides, sometimes significant ones. You need to be open to that first of all, to share your society and culture with foreigners, but also be able to respect their religion as much or as little as your country's laws require you to respect freedom of religion in general. Of course, while that may be a lot to ask of some and less of others, Islamic immigrants or refugees often face the much tougher challenges. In the majority of cases they're not nearly as well educated as we are, their religion has very likely been the centerpiece of their lives, so much so that a few use force to defend it, and the Islam was in some cases even their state religion. You have to imagine losing everything you worked for your whole life, possibly even family members. After you finally arrive in the country you want to be your new home, you then have to learn to communicate from scratch and change yourself to fit in.

The government is obligated to deal with that, to make sure that immigrants don't present a danger to the country, its culture and society either now or in the future. In some examples the results are very good, but in a worrying number of cases the integration fails before it can even be given a chance to succeed. That's on the one hand a question of numbers (I did touch up on that already), but the even bigger problem is how most of Europe (and the EU in particular) has dealt with immigration and integration for the past few decades. These fateful decisions in time long past have led to the creation of parallel societies, where European culture and ideals cease to exist and where the state's laws are seldom if ever enforced in a meaningful way. The rare case when some lawbreaker from any of these parallel communities is conviced often serve as a reminder to the places you're best off avoiding.

I live in a rural part of the country with no big cities close by, so my experience is of course vastly different from someone growing up in an area with a high population density. It is one thing for a child aged 5 to 15 to go to kindergarten or (primary) school, learn the language properly and try to fit in with the other children. It's a whole other thing however, when twenty years later and the child having grown up into a good citizen, the parents are unable to make themselves understood in anything but broken German. You could almost believe them to be tourists and not long-time local residents. It is even worse, when the number of those people entirely unwilling to integrate themselves has grown so large, that they start forming isolated groups and communities, where German is of course a language decidedly not spoken. The majority of these people are as good or as bad as anyone else and I'm certainly not trying to imply that they're at fault for what we are now faced with, but they're a small cog in a machine that unwittingly created the potential for radicalized Islamism one generation or two later. The match that lit the fuse so to speak, comes from somewhere else. These groups end up viewing the local society and culture as foreign, even after having lived here for a large part of their lives. This didn't really happen to any alarming degree where I live, but I know it has to be a major concern in most population centers. Although "only" 6 or 7 percent of my country's population practices Islam, you need only look into our cities' schools to get a wholly different picture. In our national capital, over half of all pupils entering the elementary/primary schools aren't ready for regular education, in most cases because they do not speak German well enough. This has led to a severe shortage of language teachers who are required so the children can start taking part in classes, or they end up wasting their time in school. Teaching to the lowest common denominator (meaning: language comprehension) on this vast scale would end up hurting the whole of society, after all.

The problem has of course been exacerbated by numbers. Especially in the wake of the huge refugee waves following the start of the Syrian war and the IS actions in the area in general, it has become clear how unprepared Europe's bureaucracy has been for the onrush. But even long before this happened, everybody should have already known that the integration politics had failed spectacularly. There just hadn't been a crisis yet to make that failure obvious.

I said more than once that you can "live peacefully with muslims", but I am equally of the opinion that you won't be able to keep that peace with Islam itself once numbers hit a certain point. It is more than a religion after all, for many it is a way of life and even a set of laws they have lived their whole lives by. That's an issue those that live in western countries often don't understand properly, because they grew up with a (reasonably strict) separation between state and religion and thus they have no idea what the Islam, properly lived and enforced, means. If you don't believe that arranged marriages with a considerable age disparity exist in European countries, if you don't believe that the oppression of women and girls exists in muslim households in these same countries, if you don't believe that salafists are running around trying to take justice into their own hands, then think again. Those are just some examples and while they are certainly not practiced or even supported by every muslim living as a religious minority in a foreign country, they are part of the daily life in the Islamic culture and only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Sharia law. The more orthodox the community, the more likely it will happen, local laws forbidding this or not.

Governments don't do themselves any favors by letting hate preachers give sermons whose only goal is the corruption of an already fragile balance. It has recently been published, that one such person may be responsible for triggering a radicalized change in some of the persons responsible for the London bombings in 2005, after he spoke at several mosques and, worst of all, even in a state-recognized private school. Granted, it's not like other religions don't have these people too, but at least Christian hatemongers are not the first step on a road toward coordinated terrorist attacks all over the world in their religion's name. Lone wolves, no matter what religion or topic inspired them to act out their beliefs, aren't really the problem and it would be a mistake to try to connect them in this manner as some others have tried in this thread. You'll have those crazies pop up in every society time and again and there's nothing we can do about that.

The second big problem is the evolution of methods by terrorist organizations. It recognizes fertile ground - the potential for radicalization in immigrant ghettos all over the European continent - plants a seed - creating a sleeper cell in the process - and only comes back to farm the blossomed result at the most opportune moment. This method would not be able to work at this scale and with this degree of success, if modern Europe didn't have little pockets of Iraq, Syria or Afghanistan all over the place. It pains me to say this, but you have to give terrorist organizations credit for recognizing this weakness and exploiting it so efficiently. Before someone tries to suggest temporary internment like the US have done with people of Japanese ancestry during World War II, let me point out why this would never ever have a beneficial result. Instead of 125k people, Europe has to manage 40 to 50 million muslims, about 20 million of that within EU member states.

Anyway, my point in all this is that people need to differentiate between the single muslim person or family and the religion they are part of. Take away the organized hate speech that is preached in mosques or other places and we Europeans wouldn't have nearly as many experienced war criminals and terrorists living among us. Almost every European country today can boast dozens if not hundreds of muslims that grew up here, became radicalized in some way and then went to fight in the Middle East like in Syria for the IS or one of their sister organizations. A lot of those people have either come back disillusioned or they died down there, but who is to say the returnees won't let themselves be used the same way again in the future? Only this time, they might take action already knowing what it feels like to kill and torture for their God. They're known to our governments, but the vast majority of them are neither in jail nor about to be sent there. We all know that observation is often not enough.

As long as religious leaders of the Islam don't realize that the world-wide increase in terrorism is imminently their problem and possibly a problem of their own making, I only feel it's my right - and that of everyone else - to be suspicious of them and their religion in general. Yesterday, only a few hours after the news of yet another terrorism attack in France, I read an interview of the Egyptian Great Mufti, the highest leader of religious law in the country. He said that terrorism is not an Islamic problem and that it is up to the world community to deal with this terror, this nonsense. I grew up in a roman-catholic family and I believe in God, but as I've gotten older I grew more and more dissatisfied with the church as an organization. That doesn't mean I can't hold a personal belief. If some terrorist organization suddenly started going around and killing in my God's name and citing my religious beliefs as the twisted reason for their actions, I'd take that personally. Maybe I wouldn't be the right person to do anything about it, but I would certainly expect the leaders of the Christian faith to make it into their problem and find a way to stop it from happening again. Looking how some sexual abuse cases were handled by this church, I'm not exactly hopeful about that, but then again, the Christian faith has undergone the kind of reform the Islam desperately needs within the past millennium. It wasn't peaceful, it was bloody, lets hope this time it will work better, if a reform of the Islam is ever coming our way, that is.

Hm. This post ended on quite a downer, but I'm actually rather hopeful that we're all capable enough of dealing and overcoming the challenges we face. Unfortunately, politics being what it is, I fear we'll be seeing a lot more of those attacks on innocent people until divergent international interests can be aligned to achieve a common goal. Until that time I have no problems meeting muslims in my daily life and being friends with some of them, even though I remain distrustful of their religion, their religious leadership and most of all the religion's influence on law and state where they aren't a minority (any more).

 

The Washington Post APJuly 16 at 7:36 AM

ISLAMABAD — Pakistani fashion model Qandeel Baloch, who recently stirred controversy by posting pictures of herself with a Muslim cleric on social media, was strangled to death by her brother, police said Saturday.

 

The Islamic State terrorists who attacked the Bataclan theater in Paris last November not only killed scores of innocents — they also gouged out the eyes and sliced up the genitals of some of the victims, according to testimony in a disturbing French report.

http://nypost.com/2016/07/15/horrifying-details-of-the-bataclan-theatre-massacre-revealed/

 

I agree with most of what you have to say. Some of your thoughts seem to be baste on theoretical ideals and some come from practical experience. I'll have to read this again to see how I want to reply.

In any case, thanks for the well thought out post.

HD

 

Nothing that Islamist do surprises me anymore. Islam is more than a religion... for some it is a sickness in the head.

 

Islam is the religion of PEACE and UNDERSTANDING - The Koran says they must not kill - unless of course the person you kill is NOT a Muslim - then it's ok.
Just a minute! Some of the people killed in the latest atrocities in France were actually Muslims! Most of the people killed in Iraq by ISIS are Muslims!
Oh, I get it, THEY are not the same branch of the Muslim religion are they? Or is it ok 'cos as Muslims, despite being killed by other Muslims, they will go to
heaven and have dozens of virgins at their sexual beck and call? This is extremely complicated for a simple agnostic to understand!
But what if it is - as I fear - all a big lie and there is no God and no after life, therefore no virgins for anyone? What a waste of the one life they have!
And a waste of the lives of hundreds who have to die because they are killed by demented individuals in the name of this PEACEFUL religion!
If you are up there watching prophet Mohammed - I hope you are pleased with your handiwork - because I for one do not understand it at all!

 

We are all humans!

 

I think we should just fuck each other without asking others' religion. That is what smart people should do.

 

My little dog is just a human.