... in the America's Cup.

Thank you for calling.

 

Is that in one race, or the whole competition?.

 

Good to hear Ellison got bitch-slapped. Congrats NZ.

 

Yeee HAAAaaa

Cleaned them up 8 races out of 9

The America's Cup
is now
New Zealand's Cup

Again.

and some wonder how we joined the space race with our own rocket.

Kiwi are world leaders and innovators in many spheres

Congratulations team NZ

 

Maybe they lost deliberately just so they could get to sail in Auckland....... And then they could have a go in the tough sailor's race,.... The Sydney to Hobart.

 

con grats---but Larry Ellison net worth has increased 8 billion since the Trump election.....
he will not be crying much....

 

New Zealand won, ultimately, with superior seamanship.

The fastest boat in the field wasn't even Oracle's. That would be the Artemis boat (France), which was eliminated earlier this month.

(The Artemis boat is funded by another billionaire, a dude named Tornqvist who's even richer than Ellison, they say.)

That's what's great about the NZ win. The America's Cup races over the past few rounds have been too much about the technology and these billion dollar boats. NZ's crew beat superior technology with skill and verve.

 

The team NZ still has it's full sized replica ,
used for display etc during our last tenure as holders ,
because of its very high value and security risks .

It is sitting locked in a secure cabinet in their club rooms ,
locked there since 2001 ,
with a Very Expensive bottle of Cognac inside ,
waiting for the cups return.

Party coming up

Then , the cabinet is all ready to house the Auld Mug securely again.

(I have no idea why they chose Cognac to put away inside it.
perhaps it keeps best , in case it took us a very long time to win back)

 

Congrats to the Kiwi 's!

Love sailing, but most Americans aren't even aware it happened.

 

Never been there, but will be coming to kiwi country and Aussie land in about 2 years.
Sold some equipment in both countries and the Mrs wants to go.
Looking forward to it!

Tax write off....you bet your ass!

 

before someone jumps on me.

I kinda simplified my statement ,
so here's whole the truth

* * *
America's Cup is the oldest trophy in international sport.
America's Cup is the oldest trophy continuously awarded in sport.

The America's Cup is the most famous and most prestigious regatta in the sport of sailing, and the oldest active trophy in international sport, predating the FA Cup by two decades and the Modern Olympics by 45 years. The cup, originally offered as the Royal Yacht Squadron cup, is now named after the first yacht to win the trophy, the schooner America.

The Cup itself is an ornate silver-plated Britannia metal bottomless ewer, crafted in 1848 by Garrard & Co. The regatta's origins date back to August 22, 1851 when the 30.86 m schooner-yacht America, owned by a syndicate that represented the New York Yacht Club, raced 15 yachts representing the Royal Yacht Squadron around the Isle of Wight. America won by 20 minutes.

 

I want to go there just to see real live Hobbits....

 

There is the US Open for people who think hitting a white ball is CHALLENGING. There is Wimbledon for people who think hitting a yellow ball back and forth is CHALLENGING. There are so many "games" people can PLAY at and claim are CHALLENGING. For me, so what, is the only reaction. I have never understood why so many people want to watch professionals spend billions of dollars to prove to themselves who is THE BEST TODAY. I played sports when I was young. I have skydived, bungee jumped, and done many things for the "kick" but WATCH? Why WATCH or even read about someone else doing something for which he/she/they are paid MILLIONS of US dollars? We are a funny group, humans. Our personal achievements aren't enough. We must seek out the BEST and devote hours/days/weeks/months ... endless time to WATCHING them do what we do not as well. I was born and raised in Boston, MA USA where we have THE BOSTON MARATHON every year. I enjoyed the marathon when it was FREE and open to ALL. Now it is a public display of MONEY and ADVERTISING and not worth reading about or watching. I guess we should be proud of the accomplishments of our fellow countrymen but only if our country had some major impact on the fellow countryman. Say for example, I have become a great mathematician and prove some important theoretical formula. What part of my genius is attributable to my being a citizen of the USA? NONE. How about looking at how your country has improved the people of the world and taking pleasure in that accomplishment. In year XXXX people from countries 123X, 908Y and YgYg worked on YACHT LOTS OF FUCKING MONEY, flying the flag of ZxZx country to victory and the people of ZxZx celebrated the accomplishment of their country. Really?

 

What I wouldn't give to crew on any one of those boats, or simply sit at the stern rail to soak in the the exhilaration of the moment! OMG!

 

.
I understand what your saying, and it's a fair comment.
There was a race many, many years ago between two fishing schooners, one from America, and one from Canada. In my humble opinion, one of histories greatest races!

I'm not qualified, or have the skills to compete at the caliber required to crew on one of these boats, but it would be a thrill!
Today's Americas Cup isn't unlike some athletes using steroids. I don't follow the Americas cup for that reason. If all the boats were of the same design, and sail plan, with skills being the deciding factor giving a crew the win! I'd follow each, and every race!

 

It appears congratulations are in order and it is not so much that we lost but more that we are learning to share .

 

See we have the first challenge in for the next cup.
Welcome back Luna Rossa

Now all Grant Dalton has to do ,
is figure out where and when ,
and write the rules.

Already said
It Will be in NZ

 

America's Cup boats are a basic one design class , with very strict rules around the basics ,
and the parameters within which innovation must fit.

To make them all identical , would be pointless ,
because it would reduce the regatta to just another standard sailing regatta ,
with no room for innovation and improvements ,
within class for each regatta ,
every four years.

That is , the next regatta boats ,
would have to be built to a strict design of what is known today.
* *
see below
particularly last paragraph

Each team has designed their own America’s Cup Class boat, however there are certain ‘one-design’ elements which are required to be the same across all boats. The other areas where they are allowed to innovate will be the key differentiator between teams.

To give an idea of the technology advances in the America’s Cup in recent years,

between 1851 and 2007 the top speed of the boats increased from about 12 to 18 knots.
Since 2007, the speed has increased from 18 knots to just under 50 knots, so far.

* * *

There are hundreds of regatta's and yacht races where you can watch and compete in standard conventional yachting.
What would be the point in reducing the Americas Cup to just more of the same ?
That would take away it's difference and uniqueness , and make it pointless.

In reality , the Kiwi's were/are responsible for improving the rules and making them fairer ,
and ,
Grant Dalton has already stated that he will be doing that again now , for the next regatta.

That is another thing about the America's Cup.
The winners , holders ,
make the rules , including boat type and design , sailing rules etc.
and where and when the next regatta will be sailed .
As one commentator quipped , the Americans have always skewed the rules , to make it hard to loose the cup ,
rather than hard to win .

Look at this year.
America rigged it so that they went into the finals with one race point up.
That is ,
in the finals , the holders only had to win 6 races to retain the cup ,
while the challengers had to win 8.

1. (first to 7 points wins)

That is Mickey Mouse to put it politely.


So we actually won the finals winning
8 races to 1 for the defenders.

 

Team Oracle did manage to beat Jeremy Clarkson in a race around New Zealand once. That counts for something. Though I think they had Ben Ainslie at the Helm that day.