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  1. slutwolf

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    sorry can't get a better image

    465px-Aquifer_en.svg.png
     
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  2. ridgerunner

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    [​IMG]i am posting this to show to all that the idiots spouting that pipelines are the better transport source are 100% full of shit
    rail has become safer with every 5 year period
    trucks are more dangerous because they are not alone on the road ways
    and pipe line leakage listed is ONLY THE REPORTED LEAKS
     
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      ONLY THE REPORTED LEAKS, Couldn't be said about trucks and rail also?
      Exactly what else should we go by?
       
      msman, Nov 20, 2017
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      because trucks and rail lines are federaly regulated they are required to report any leak over 10 gallons unlike pipelines that are regulated by individual states if even then
      for example in texas and several other states pipeline do not even have to be approved by any government agency or agent before they are put into service unless it crosses an interstate waterway such as a river and even then they are giving automatic approval
      if a truck driver fails to report a leak or spill and attempts to deliver the load they will be reported for not only theft of the material but also for falsifying documents, if they cannot explain where it went they will be arrested
      since put into operation the dakota access pipeline has suffered 23 leaks that were not reported at all including one of 84 gallons at a pumping station from a transfer pump failure
       
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  3. Distant Lover

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    Of course it is. This what happens when there is de regulation. Regulations exist for good purposes.
     
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  4. ace's n 8's

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    Over regulation exists for bad purposes.

    There was nothing wrong with allowing the KEYSTONE XL to proceed.
     
    1. ridgerunner
      except that it was based on falsified reports, undone testing, and political pressure from a POTUS that had NO CLUE OF THE POSSIBLE IMPACT
       
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      And again you stupid mother fucker... human error had nothing to do with allowing the pipeline to proceed....

      You're beyond a fucking idiot.
       
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    3. shootersa
      Now settle down.
      Obama jammed up the pipline.
      His detractors howled.
      Trump cleared it.
      His detractors howled.

      All the rest is just bullshit.

      Remember always, pigeons, chess.
       
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  5. ridgerunner

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    Keystone XL Pipe Shuns Infrared Sensors to Detect Leaks
    Rebecca Penty and Mike Lee
    June 18, 2013, 4:19 PM CDT
    TransCanada Corp., which says Keystone XL will be the safest pipeline ever built, isn’t planning to use infrared sensors or fiber-optic cables to detect spills along the system’s 2,000-mile (3,200-kilometer) path to Texas refineries from fields in Alberta.

    To continue reading this article you mus
     
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  6. Distant Lover

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    What is "over regulation?" Who determines what is "over regulation?" Regulated companies? Or the people who are harmed when something goes wrong, as it obviously has in this case.
     
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      Well, lets see.
      Obama took matters into his own hands when he defined what "navigable waters" in the US means. He was trying to clarify where EPA authority started cause the courts and the EPA struggled with the definition since 1972.
      Obama wrote with a broad brush.
      It was interpreted to mean any stream, body of water, or water containment that had "nexus" to water that would be used for drinking or agriculture.
      The EPA liked that. It gave them control over any mud puddle, creek, water in the gutter, and in particular, water used in agriculture.

      It had the ability to shut down any farmer using irrigation, and quite literally, water running off of one's lawn and into the gutter.

      Really.

      Overreach?
      Yep.
       
      shootersa, Nov 20, 2017
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      Exactly shooter, that Obama interpretation meant that the federal fucking government would have sole control over my pond in the front yard, because the overflow from the pond, eventually, ran into the the Tuscawarus River.

      Although my pond is spring fed.
       
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  7. Deleted User kekw

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    I'm sure not. If you need more of an explanation beyond this one, let me know.
     
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  8. Deleted User kekw

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    Are you arguing that additional, unnecessary pipelines pose no greater risk than if there is no additional pipeline?

    A PIPELINE ALREADY EXISTS
     
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      actually that pipeline did not exist at all it was an expansion from another pipeline that would cut through protected lands to save money while cutting the time it took to send canadian petroleum to china
      they did have to construct new sections of pipeline to pass through areas that were not already approved
       
      ridgerunner, Nov 21, 2017
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  9. Deleted User kekw

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    It's kind of telling you want to keep running your mouth after it's been shown you don't know what you're talking about.
     
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  10. slutwolf

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    I saw that graphic (ridge runner) also.

    Its plain to see you should have a lot more tank vessels and barges.
    By far the safest way for the whole 27 years , and probably long before.

    :) build canals , not pipelines
    :rolleyes:
     
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  11. ace's n 8's

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    You keep thinking that.

    Anything above the nonpermiable rock is nothing more than typical ground water runoff, it can be called whatever you want to call it, whatever they want to call it, it isn't non-potable.

    Although it is fantastic for irrigation purposes.
     
    1. slutwolf
      lmao
      What is "groundwater" runoff ?

      Did you mean rain ?

      groundwater
      ˈɡraʊn(d)wɔːtə/
      noun
      1. water held underground in the soil or in pores and crevices in rock.
      . . . .
      So you see that groundwater is water that did not run off ,
      and is not seeping away.
      That is it is held where it is.

      Run off is water that did not soak in , and ran off over the surface , from rain , snow , ice , irrigation , or whatever.


      What do you mean by "it isn't non potable" ?

      Did you mean it is potable ?
      and WTF dose that have to do with the subject ?

      Yes , you may call anything whatever you like , but that doesn't mean you are right.

      So far in this subject , all you have done is prove your ignorance ,
      and then reinforce that evidence.
       
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  12. ridgerunner

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    asses of hate are you plain stuck on republican stupid?
    we do drink what you call ground water every day, they're are 2 versions of it open source ground water and unconfined groundwater aquifers
    open source would be rivers, lakes, and streams, any source that is open to the air and not covered by any natural covering
    unconfined aquifers are what is known as the water table, underground rivers and lakes, and even confined man made water tanks
    a confined aquifer is simply a water source that is covered by a natural material that is harder than simple topsoil

    most wells are drilled into the confined aquifers for longevity but temporary wells are drilled into the unconfined aquifer because it costs less and it does not effect the overall water source as much

    drilling into the confined aquifer is the same as drilling for oil or gas and creates a negative pressure within the earth that will leave a void and will soon cause sinkholes because of the actions of subsidence
     
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  13. ace's n 8's

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    Like I have said for most of my life....''it must be in the water''.
     
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  14. ridgerunner

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    you will notice he could not and would not argue any of his points based on merit nor fact because he knows that he is wrong and has been proven thusly
    dippie how do you thing societies have existed for the thousands of years leading up to the advent of drilling technology that came out of the industrial revolution?????
    they did not have deep earth drills in the bible or even during the civil war
     
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    Soooooo just FYI the Ogallala aquifer, an unconfined aquifer, is the main source of water for millions of people. Maybe you, being the subject matter expert, should tell the whole state of Nebraska that their water isn't potable.

    You don't know anything about any subject lol
     
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    Wait wait wait, ace just said unconfined aquifers don't exist.

    If you wonder why I think you're stupid, it's because you are. At least do a modicum of research before you run your mouth.

    Case and point: a water table is NOT always an unconfined aquifer. Not all aquifers are unconfined either. You still have a water table without an unconfined aquifer.


    You guys don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
     
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    It's a good thing you just drink mountain dew, you might catch the intelligence



    Wait wait wait, I thought aquifers couldn't be polluted? How can there be something in the water?
     
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  18. slutwolf

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    [​IMG]


    images.jpeg

    Let's see if better graphics clear things up for the uneducated.
    Here's hoping they do show better than the previous
     
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  19. ridgerunner

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    kk ROM heres is the deal I will ask you 3 questions to see what your understanding of basic geology is and you just answer them
    1. define an aquifer
    2. define water table
    3. define a water table is NOT always an unconfined aquifer. Not all aquifers are unconfined either. You still have a water table without an unconfined aquifer. as it pertains to any symbalance of what i had said at all?
     
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  20. ridgerunner

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    [​IMG]ROM do you see the little thing that says WATER TABLE? now look for UNCONFINED AQUIFER, then look for CONFINED AQUIFER
    this educational experience was brought to you by the good people at national geographic and the word dumbass
     
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