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  1. NoOneFamous

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    Another lying scumbag politician,
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    In May of 2014, a dramatic Iraq war photo was posted to the Facebook page of state Rep. Graham Hunt, R-Orting, showing two kneeling U.S. soldiers in desert combat uniforms, one man consoling the other.

    “This picture of me was taken after a mortar attack in 2005,” the post said. “Background has been modified, but I think combat camera captured the moment pretty well. I surely have not forgotten that moment.”

    Hunt is a decorated former Arizona Air National Guard member who deployed to the Middle East. But neither soldier in the picture was him. The image was a doctored version of a 2003 Associated Press photo of two military policemen from Ohio during a deployment near Baghdad.

    The photo was removed several months later, with Hunt saying a campaign volunteer had posted it without his knowledge.

    It’s not the only question to surface regarding Hunt’s descriptions of his military record.

    Until recently, in his official and campaign biographies Hunt listed three medals that a military personnel center has no record of him receiving — though a military spokeswoman cautioned that its records are sometimes incomplete.

    Hunt has described himself as having been “wounded in combat” but grows vague when asked for details. He said he was knocked down by explosions but cannot remember where. He also says he cannot remember the names of units he deployed with to Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Late last month, after being interviewed by The Seattle Times, Hunt altered several details about his military service on his online biographies.

    He deleted references to the Air Force Commendation Medal, the Iraq Campaign Medal and the Afghanistan Campaign Medal — awards a military personnel office says do not appear on his service record.

    Also removed was a reference to Hunt being a “combat veteran” of Iraq and Afghanistan. [link=http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...ocial&utm_campaign=article_left_1.1]Click here[/link]
     
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  2. shadow walker

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    If he spent 120 days in either theater he would be qualified for the campaign medal of said theater however it does not mean he recieved the award. To be a combat veteran he would need the Combat Action Ribbon or the USAF equivlant of it.
     
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  3. tenguy

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    And?


    Do you propose that something should now be done, regarding this alleged falsifying military records?
     
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  4. NoOneFamous

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    He should be tarred and feathered
     
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  5. tenguy

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    Without due process? By vigilante mob? What happened to John Kerry over false combat claims, oh, I forgot, they made him Sec'y of State, where lying seems to be a prerequisite.
     
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  6. Bron Zeage

    Bron Zeage I am a river to my people

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    As far as I know, John Kerry is the only serving Secretary of State with enemy shrapnel in his thigh. Since George W Bush had such a dubious military record, it was critical to discredit Kerry's service. It turned out to be very difficult to find anyone who remembered George W. participating in Air National Guard service in Alabama, although pay records indicate he cashed the checks. To be fair, GW doesn't remember much from that part of his life, either.

    A lot of people questioned what Kerry did, and whether he deserved the three Purple Hearts, Silver Star, and Bronze Star, but no one disputed that he did actually show up for work and took combat assignments he could have avoided.
     
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      No one claimed that he did not serve in combat, just as no one claimed that Bush did. Bad analogies abound in here.
       
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  7. NoOneFamous

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    John Kerry showed up when his country called and served and earned his medals. His swift boat detractors lied, either they lied when they were supporting Kerry or they lied when they sided with Bush.
     
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      Again no one claimed differently, as far as his serving in combat. No one, that I am aware of, claimed he was not wounded. It has not been proven that his Swift Boat detractors lied, the only rebuttals came from some of those who were on his boat at one time or another. The allegations that his detractors were lying does cut both ways.
       
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  8. Rixer

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    Typical. Just like the so called patriots here on xnxx.... They go around bleeding red, white and blue...
    But never served......
     
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      Which means: "If you served in the military, It's okay to lie about your record", right? Or does it mean: "If you did not serve in the military, you have no right to question those who did", or is this right.

      Since less than 1/2 of 1% serve in the military, and about 5% ever served, that sure leaves the door wide open for deceptive rhetoric.
       
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  9. Bron Zeage

    Bron Zeage I am a river to my people

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    The problem was not a claim that Bush served, it was the fact he did not. This made it critical to discredit the distinguished military record of his opponent. This was the political strategy pioneered by Karl Rove. It was his idea to attack the opponents strong points, instead of the weak points. This was especially important if the Democratic candidates strong point were a sharp contrast to the GOP man's weakness.

    The GOP of the current generation has suffered the image of draft dodging by National Guard service, or just maintaining deferments until it was over. Dan Quayle faced the draft dodging charges long before Bush. It was a recognized weakness and and Kerry's war record was a worse possible scenario for GW.
     
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      The truth is that Bush did serve in the Texas Air National Guard, he did complete flight training, he did fly F-102's and he did meet the requirements of a intercept fighter pilot. He did fulfill his two year active duty contract and he completed the air hours requirement for F-102 pilots in the inactive Air Guard. The F-102 was to be retired and Bush was on inactive duty, making it impractical to go back into flight training for a different aircraft since he had less than two years remaining on this four year inactive committment.

      He was honorably discharged from the Texas Air National Guard and the US Air Force Reserve. The last 16 months of his inactive duty period is what some folks claim that he left early, but no one in the Guard or Air Force collaborates those claims. He did lose his flight certification because he no longer was actively flying the discontinued F-102 and failed to meet the air hour requirement.
       
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  10. Bron Zeage

    Bron Zeage I am a river to my people

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    Whether he served in the Guard has never been disputed. He certainly got paid to serve. What he did to earn the pay, was questioned. The other question was whether or not he enlisted in the Guard to avoid the draft. In any case, his opponent was a war hero and something had to be done about that. If you can't hold up your head, pull the other guy down.
     
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      That swings both ways. You question whether he earned his pay, wouldn't his honorable discharges answer that question?

      According to the official records he did fulfill his duty, maybe not to your liking, but how does that matter? There were hundreds of thousands of eligible young people who served in the Guard, to claim that they were avoiding combat is ludicrous, I know that you do not like his or my politics, but that is no reason to disparage the Guard volunteers.
       
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  11. deleted user 1548766

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    I don't know why anybody would give a flying damn about Kerry's medals. He sure didn't when he threw them over the White House fence and stabbed his fellow soldiers in the back whilst giving aid and comfort to the enemy as a war protesting traitor. :rolleyes:
     
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  12. Distant Lover

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    It takes character for one to admit that he fought in an unjust war. It takes courage for someone with political aspirations to do that.
     
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    He has the same character as a Jane Fonda and a Benedict Arnold. :rolleyes:
     
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  14. Bron Zeage

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    You don't actually know what I like, but I can call bullshit when I see bullshit. Kerry's honorable discharge was not sufficient when his service was questioned.

    I know a few men who enlisted in the Guard to avoid the draft, and they are not the least bit ashamed of it. Plenty of young men applied to law school for the same reason. I also know one whose unit wase called and he ended up in Vietnam, anyway.

    It doesn't really matter whether Bush dodged the draft or took pay for time he did not serve. His meager military record was the reason Kerry's record had to be smeared, medals, honorable discharge and all.
     
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  15. Distant Lover

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    To make us love our country, our country ought to be lovely.

    - Edmund Burke

    The notion that one has the obligation to support any war one's country is in has no place in a democratic country. Abraham Lincoln opposed the Mexican War. So did Ulysses S. Grant, although like John Kerry he fought anyway.
     
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    Interesting quote. But I bet that even Burke wouldn't have cared all that much for traitors. :rolleyes:
    Did Lincoln give aid and comfort to Mexico? Did Grant turn on his fellow soldiers and make false accusations against them whilst giving aid and comfort to the enemy during a time of war? Kerry and Benedict Arnold have much in common. They both served their country before turning traitor.
     
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  17. Distant Lover

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    Edmund Burke supported the American side during the American Revolution.
     
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  18. Distant Lover

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    Abraham Lincoln Protests the Mexican War
    Digital History ID 3672

    Author: Abraham Lincoln
    Date:1847

    Annotation: Elected as a Whig to Congress in 1846, Abraham Lincoln gained notoriety when he lashed out against the Mexican War, calling it immoral, proslavery, and a threat to the nation's republican values. President James K. Polk had called for war, accusing Mexico of shedding of "American blood on American soil.” Lincoln responded by introducing a series of resolutions demanding to know the "particular spot of soil on which the blood of our citizens was so shed." One of Lincoln's constituents branded him "the Benedict Arnold of our district," and he was denied renomination by his own party.
    http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/disp_textbook.cfm?smtid=3&psid=3672

    I guess you can call that giving "aid and comfort to Mexico." Abraham Lincoln gave speeches in Congress condemning the War. As a Congressional representative his speeches received more publicity than anything John Kerry said at the time.
     
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  19. deleted user 1548766

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    Did Burke engage in protests where he threw his medals over a fence and say horrible things about British soldiers?

    It's one thing to have problems with a war. It's quite another to give aid and comfort to the enemy during that time of war like Jane Fonda, Kerry, and Arnold did.

    If Fonda and Kerry had done the same shit that they did during the Vietnam War back during WW2 they would have been hanged for treason.

    I have ZERO respect for them and wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.
     
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  20. Distant Lover

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    National Public Radio Published August 15, 2005

    More than 30 years after it was filmed, a documentary that chronicles war crimes committed by U.S. troops in Vietnam is being re-released. The film, Winter Soldier, is based on the Winter Soldier Investigation of 1971, in which Vietnam veterans testified to atrocities they witnessed or participated in...

    Vietnam Veterans Against the War held the Winter Soldier investigation at a Detroit motel in late January 1971. There were three days of emotionally wrenching testimony in which former soldiers described how they massacred civilians and tortured prisoners of war...

    Unidentified Man #3: The more people we killed, the happier our officers were, you know? It got to be like a game. Like, the object was to see who could kill the most people, and the different ways you could prove how many people you killed would be, like, cutting off ears.
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4800067
     
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