So, how do the Teamsters plan on providing for the families of the workers that didn't want to lose their jobs? Answer, they're not......No, the Teamster top dogs will just move on to another town and act like nothing ever happen.

Of those 18500 people that just lost their job, how many do you think are happy about it?

Oh well, they still have Obama care......
Hostess to close, lay off 18,500 after 'crippling' union fight


A small union's stubbornness in contract talks with Hostess is being blamed for the shutdown of one of America's snack food icons, the loss of 18,500 jobs and much-needed tax revenue from hundreds of plants and shops across the country.
The privately-held company had reached a deal with the Teamsters, but a smaller union representing bakery workers refused to agree to concessions, prompting the mass layoffs and closing down of hundreds of plants, bakeries and delivery routes. That prompted harsh words from both the company and from Teamsters officials.
"We deeply regret the necessity of today's decision, but we do not have the financial resources to weather an extended nationwide strike," Chief Executive Gregory Rayburn said in a statement. "Hostess Brands will move promptly to lay off most of its 18,500-member workforce and focus on selling its assets to the highest bidders."
The company said it will continue to ship out its well-known products until inventory runs out.
The national strike by members of the Bakery, Confectionary, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union (BCTGM) that began last week decimated the 82-year-old company’s ability to produce and deliver products at roughly 12 of its 33 plants. The company announced earlier in the week that the ax would fall on Friday if the strikers didn’t get back to work, but the union didn’t blink. BCTGM President Frank Hurt said Thursday that the crisis was the "result of nearly a decade of financial and operational mismanagement" and charged management was scapegoating workers to allow the Wall Street investors who own Hostess to sell.
Calls seeking comment from Hurt were not returned early Friday.
Marty Zimmerman, secretary-treasurer for BCTGM Local 85, told Fox40 from a Sacramento picket line early Friday that workers had been at “wits end” with Hostess brass.
“Well, the mindset is we’re standing strong, absolutely,” Zimmerman told the station. “I mean, they’ve taken our pensions away, we’ve had seven CEOs in the last 10 years; this company has been so mismanaged. Really, we’re at our wits end and enough is enough”
The Irving, Texas-based company had already reached an agreement on pay and benefit cuts with its largest union, the International Brotherhood of Teamsters. On Thursday, Teamsters officials blasted the smaller union for not seeking a “solution” in the process or to engage in negotiations.
“The BCTGM chose a different path, as is their prerogative, to not substantively look for a solution or engage in the process,” the statement read. “BCTGM members were told there were better solutions than the final offer, although Judge Drain stated in his decision in bankruptcy court that no such solutions exist. Without complete information, BCTGM members voted by voice votes in union halls. The BCTGM reported that over 90 percent rejected the final offer and three of its units ratified the final offer.”
In a letter to employees posted on the company’s website, Rayburn said all employees would eventually lose their jobs, some sooner than others.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/1...00-after-crippling-union-fight/#ixzz2CPM3Za5c

 

Hey CS, I had started a thread yesterday under a different title, so it wouldn't be too obvious to you that one already existed.

https://forum.xnxx.com/showthread.php?t=325747


This is a mixed blessing.

 

The biggest problem I see is HOW will obama and the democrats tax that company for more tax dollars???? HOW Then need to stay in business to pay taxes as the 99% refuses to work but that is OK we need to TAX.


This is what happens when the unions push past the point, now they will be home for CHRISTMAS there will be no gifts for them BUT they will be home.


I wonder maybe richard (or DICK) trumka can have them clean one of his big houses or wash his cars, like he gives a rats ass.

As the workers that lost their jobs are walking out for the last time they should thank a union member.

 

Several corporations have announced huge layoffs within days after Obama's re-election. Denny's and Papa Johns have announced price increases. Inflation is at a much higher rate than the government claims it to be.

Wonder what the unemployment numbers will look like after the first of the year?

Does anyone see a trend here?

 

Lets not forget that obama told the powers that be NOT to count energy and food when they account for inflation. All he is doing is screwing around with the numbers.

He is running America as a community organizer.

 

Energy and food don't count? You mean, I should ignore my second and third largest expenses (housing being the first, but at least that number is fixed)?

Yeah, that makes about as much sense as anything else I've heard from Washington for a couple decades.

 

Now, before you shed a tear about Twinkies, just ask yourself: Would First Lady Michelle approve them for school lunches?

No, she would not.

Labor has much bigger things to worry about than Twinkies and Ding Dongs, and let no one forget the child slave labor and the women chained to machines in the Industrial Revolution. How did that work out? Not well at all.

The labor unions had legitimate and pressing grievances against Wonder Bread, and this is just the beginning, so corporations are going to have to learn that ownership represents a social comtract, and they have to do the right thing for the public good.

 

What, pray tell, is a "comtract"?

 

First of all it was not the teamsters union as they agreed to cuts for Hostess to keep going.

It was the Bakers Union that would not talk...

As to out of Twinkies...DAMN RIGHT, I just got back from being at the stores and the selves where bare....

I guess living in Old North 40 Dallas neighborhool called Preston Hollow, down the street from GW Bush did not work. One store manger told me some CIA Secret Service looking guys in Black SUVs showed up last night and bought every box on the self, Twinkies, cupcakes, ding dongs but left the Minni muffins.

Same story at the other 2 stores.

Those fucking greedy 1%ers -- even fuck over us 10%ers....

Well I never !!!

 

My fellow liberals know what I mean. and the rest of you are all leaving anyway.

 

I am not saying the workers didn't have a legitimate argument. However this individual union handled the situation very badly. The all or nothing approach has back fired and the little guy loses again.

What about the guy with a family to feed and a house to pay for? Some of those guys were probably thinking hey, I don't like this, but it's better than being unemployed in this disastrous economy with a family to take care of.

Corporate and union greed= the destruction of the middle class. When you can't trust either one, what does the average working man/woman do? We better take a good look at Mexico. In Mexico there is no middle class. But they have factories and unions and are a free democracy. However the people in Mexico are either rich or poor, no in between. That is where we (the USA) are headed.

 

Who's leaving?

 

Hah! It's not about the unions at all. That's just a smokescreen. Hostess is the latest victim of ... wait for it ... VULTURE CAPITALISM!

Formerly known as Interstate Bakeries, it had gone through bankruptcy once before in 2004. Emerging from bankruptcy in 2009, a private equity firm, Ripplewood Holdings had a 50% stake in the company. Concessions had been made by the unions and 10K of the 32K workers were laid off. As always happens when a private equity firm comes in, they loaded them down with debt, in this case a total of $860 Million, including a single loan of $700 Million. They are having trouble keeping current on the payments on this massive loan (surprise!) and they're using the workers as a scapegoat.

You can read the chronology of the company here. Its history of mismanagement goes way back.:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostess_Brands

 

Were these concessions from a previous union contract? Why were they insisted upon? Was Hostess losing money?

 

Many of the workers didn't want to strike but they couldn't do anything about it. To me, it looks like they struck themselves out of a job. There's only so much you can take from a bankrupt company and a little common sense has to prevail.

At any rate, they can have my ding dong when they pry my cold dead fingers away from it. ( and that ain't gonna be soon )

 

It seems to me that the uninion members voted to strike, or at least over 50% of them did, so they are to blame, the uninion officals just follwed their wishes.

I tried a Twinkie once and spat it out and gave the remains to a dog.

 

Man you are really out of touch.

They were bankrupt, in chapter 11, trying to emerge, but needed the union to grant the concessions, the Teamsters did the other did not, Teamsters honored the strike, company closed its doors.

What else do you want to know?

 

Do you really believe that hogwash? They just followed their wishes? I'm sure the union officials had nothing to do with organizing this strike. They just do what their members wish...

 

None of this economic news is surprising to me. I'm moving my corp offshore before the end of the year. Not going to evade taxes at all, but you better believe I will legally restructure my business in such a way that I don't actually owe.

The thing Democrats don't seem to understand is that businesses are only partly material, the rest of it is an abstraction. It's human endeavor. And you can't capture human endeavor and you can't force people to innovate. You have to encourage people, not hit them over the head.

 

Nooooo! Now what will there be to eat after a nuclear fallout?