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  1. 69magpie

    69magpie Mischievous Magpie

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    Please oh please msman, please edjumacate us on our lack of knowledge....
     
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  2. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    The Master of Facts knows more facts than you do. :p
     
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      But most of your facts are made up in your own mind. More like dreams instead of facts.
      Just look at all of the facts about the Clintons that you do not know that almost every other person in the U.S. knows.
       
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      I document my factual assertions. You obviously cannot distinguish between attitudes and facts.
       
      Distant Lover, Jun 13, 2017
    3. msman
      Your documentation skills are lacking.
      You still haven't found out how crooked the Clintons are.
      You still don't know how Hillary and the DNC screwed Bernie.
      You still do not know how Hillary got the debate questions in advance.
      See how much everyone else in the U.S. knows that you do not even have a clue?
       
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  3. BiSexMansBud

    BiSexMansBud Porn Star

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    Yup...not a prayer of him getting his backside in that.
     
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      Would his fat arse fit ?
      :rolleyes:
       
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  4. BiSexMansBud

    BiSexMansBud Porn Star

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    I sincerely doubt it..its very big and ornate on the outside which would appeal to Mr Trump, but surprisingly not that roomy inside, the Royal family are physically quite tiny by comparison to the American physique, you are as a whole a very tall race and increasingly broad, honestly Her Majesty is diminutive..I know, I've seen her up close..I almost trod on her...(Thats Treason here)
     
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  5. BiSexMansBud

    BiSexMansBud Porn Star

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    Mercifully Mr Trumps decision not to come to the UK has been greeted with relief by most if not all of the British People with which I include the British Government who realised that it was going to be a PR disaster. I won't fib and say Mr Trump is liked here, he isn't. We gaze upon the current incumbent in the White House with a combination of jaw dropping Horror and Hysterics, you do have to concede it's highly amusing to watch him dig deeper and deeper holes and alienate most of the world outside of the USA but he's your problem not ours, even though your reach is Global I feel it's likely that Mr Trump will do you no real favours on a Global platform. I think it fair to say that Mr.Trump isn't likely to go down in history as one of the Great Presidents but then neither is the crowd we have in Power here either, honestly it's a mess. I think the notion of him coming to the UK as a state visit was rather rash when it was being considered but for now the threat of his imminent arrival has been postponed indefinitely..Her Majesty has dodged a bullet there, but how long will Mr Trump be able to dodge one remains an open sweepstake..and I think it's fair to say given your enormous gun culture and the good old NRA that the Odds aren't great... In England, like the US, Governments/administrations I think you call it, come and go..meanwhile Her Majesty, such a nice woman, has reigned for over 65 years and sat her behind in more state coaches than Mr Trump has had hot dinners.
     
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  6. stumbler

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    Ok here again is something I never thought of and of course was never taught. But when you say it that makes perfect sense. But I was vaguely aware that most nations with US bases don't see us as great protectors. Which is something we are taught over here and a misconception that was just so obvious on this thread.

    Obviously I am not immune to ethnocentric propaganda either. It is being reported as just a given fact that Trump is one of the reasons Europe and the UK is moving to the left. And even why Merkel has seen a surge in support recently. But again when you say it this makes perfect sense and I actually should have known. Because I have read and even been told by other international members that actually internationally Trump is seen as more of a laughable ignorant buffoon and can't be taken seriously.

    So thank you for reminding me of the facts.

    And I am very glad to see the rejection of the far right and don't really care what the reasons are. I am just glad to see it happening. But again we can to count on the US press to misinform because even when Trump was elected there were predictions he would pull the rest of the world to the far right with him.

    But one thing we do all share in common is no one, and especially Trump, has a lot of understanding of what Trump's policies are. They are all over the place, constantly shifting, usually have three different stories going on at the same time, and he is constantly contradicting his own administration. As an example there are multiple reports right now that Trump started dancing to Saudi Arabis's tune striking out against Qautar and didn't even know we have 11,000 US troops there and it is one of our most important military basis in the Middle East.

    The reason Trump talks smack about NATO is because he is the ignorant, buffoon you guys see him as and is easily manipulated by nationalists like Steve Bannon and Putin. So much so that he keeps contradicting his own Secretrary of State and Secretary of Defense who also have no idea why he keeps talking smack about NATO after they thought they had him tallied out of doing it
     
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  7. CS natureboy

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    Menwith Hill is an old radar base built in 1958. It can be replaced and has been replaced with early warning satellites... The US 'RCA 474L Ballistic Missile Early Warning system based in Alaska can replace RAF Menwith Hill as well.

    The number of personal at Menwith Hill is being reduced anyway. In 2014, the number of American personnel stationed at Menwith Hill was reduced as part of a streamlining of operations due to improvements in computer and satellite technology.

    The early warning radar systems that were installed in Europe in the late 1950's and 1960's have become obsolete with the development and deployment of early warning military satellites.

    Any radar system on British soil is more about protecting the UK than the US. Menwith Hill was built with US tax payer money. If the British don't want to foot the bill and run it themselves, then shut it down and take your chances.
     
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  8. CS natureboy

    CS natureboy Porn Star

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    Yep.... And it's time to stop throwing good money after bad....
     
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  9. BiSexMansBud

    BiSexMansBud Porn Star

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    May I just ask isn't it fairly widely reported that the USA is almost owned by China..I'm sure I read it in the broadsheets here..aren't you up to your neck in hock to Chinese investment..I'm pretty sure it's the case, so who's good money are you throwing..?
     
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      Yep , that's an inconvenient reality , which many Americans don't know , or prefer to overlook :)

      They are mostly under the illusion everything revolves around them ,
      no one else matters ,
      and they can do no wrong.

      To many of us , they are already mostly irrelevant in many things.

      This is sad , because it didn't/doesn't need to be ,
      but their ignorance of overall world facts , politics , and situations ,
      has and is leaving them behind.

      Now they have a buffoon leading the downhill slalom ,
      sadly , its headlong into further irrelevance at the moment.
      And no sign anyone applying the brakes yet.
       
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  10. power123

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    Fuck China. We are not going to pay them back. What are they going to do?
     
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      :) ignore you of course ,
      as they mostly already do.

      And you're already paying the price.
      just don't know it :)

      They are far to clever for you now.
       
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  11. AyaLaRoux

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    Unrelated post of the day.
     
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  12. BiSexMansBud

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    Other than bankrupt your economy, I've no idea, nor do I care but as a guide it's not a country to fall out with..the Far Eastern Psyche is very different to that in the West and they have an immensely strong work ethic and sense of nationality and don't take kindly to being ripped off.
     
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  13. stumbler

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    True but again just stupid ignorance (two different things.)

    China can destroy the US economy without firing a single shot because China owns so much US debt in the form of US bonds all they have to is sell them off, flood the market, and send the value of the US dollar crashing.
     
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  14. BiSexMansBud

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    Ah yes that's it, the ownership of US Bonds..I knew I read it somewhere..
     
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  15. slutwolf

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    I , helped set up , worked in for several years and still often in my sons workshop ,
    and almost nothing in there is made in America ,
    and very little he works on , repairs is.

    Hoists , tyre machines , equipment , tools , tyres , parts , office , vehicles ,
    the vast majority
    Not made in america.
    All far more reliable , easily maintained , and less expensive
    than the "good ole days".

    However , I still insist on one american product (I think)
    Slick 50
    or is China making that to now :)
     
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  16. stumbler

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    And don't forget the biggest threat of all. That's where Trump and Ivanka's clothing lines are made. They don't mind hurting the US and its people. But they are not willing to hurt their profits.
     
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  17. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    If we refuse to honor the debts we have incurred to China because of the Republican tendency to raise defense spending while cutting taxes for the rich, other countries will stop loaning us money. The results would be economically catastrophic.

    Also the Fourteenth Amendment, Section 4 says, "The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned."
     
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  18. Distant Lover

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    It would be ironic if a Communist country would ruin the U.S. economy by punishing us for our fiscal irresponsibility, which in turn is the fault of the Republicans.
     
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  19. pussy in boots

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    How about France, England, Russia, and all the other countries we pulled their asses out of the fire in WW11 pay us back for that.
    Oh yea, we forgave them that debt.
     
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  20. AyaLaRoux

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    The American involvement in the European portion of WW II was relatively small compared to all other allied forces, and it certainly can't be said that the US pulled anyone's ass out of the fire. Also, American involvement wasn't linked to any kind of compensation, the US got involved out of its own interest. I hope I don't have to point out that it paid off extremely well afterwards and caused the greatest period of American prosperity, which lasted a good 50 years.

    Don't be silly. There was no debt, so none needed to be forgiven.
     
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