Well as my final post of the day I offer this parting gift for Theresa May, what woman doesn't like a nice necklace ... ???



Good Night and thanks again for being civil and informative guys ...

 

If there was a Dictionary made of pictures for adults, this is what you would find under the F's for fuckup ...

 

Well apparently the Irish based party with similar goals has already said they will go with May ,
meaning if they get together , they will be able to govern ,
as things appear at the moment.

Who knows ,
but if correct , she needs to grab what she can and be decisive ,
and see if she can then pick up a few more ,
to give a bit of a safety net.

If she succeeds ,
will she keep the top job ?
for how long ?

Who could take over ?

Update this minute:
they've got 315 now.
a couple more to go

 

Only Corbyn could celebrate losing he's acting like his party have won .Does he not realise he is still a loser !

 

The lunatics knocked at the asylum door and nearly got in because Theresa May didn't remember the old saying "Pride comes before a fall".
But does it fucking matter, they are all the same "vote for me and I'll represent you" ..... get in ........ and its do what the unelected Cabinet and party whips tell them to do.

 

So she's finished with 318 , 8 short.

Now saying the LD's are out , won't join a coalition.
but
DU , with 10 will back her for important votes ,
supply etc. but not a coalition.

So , its going to be real tough to get anything through , other than essentials to run the country.

Could be a bit of tail wagging dog , to get anywhere.
It can be made to work ,
but the question is will it , and for how long.

With MMP for some years now , we've had coalitions for many governments now , and it works pretty well over all ,
but of course it has to here , because that is the system we have.

Not the same in UK , since it's just a compromise to get bye ,
and with all that's going on , and only a couple of seats to spare ,
they'll really have to be careful they don't get caught short in the house ,
by a surprise attack on a critical vote.

 

Yeah, that's pretty accurate (at least at the time it got posted). The only differences I can see are

It's no longer in doubt. The Democratic Union Party has already announced they'll help the Tories to get the neccessary majority to form a government, under the condition that there be no "special status" for Northern Ireland. The Democratic Unionists are one of the biggest Northern Irish Parties (the other one being Sinn Fein) and they are very much in favour of remaining a part of the United Kingdom. They feared that if Northern Ireland were to be declared a special "zone" as part of the Brexit negotiations (which would've solved a lot of issues with regards to border crossings into the Republic of Ireland), then they'd lose their connection to the UK. This way, that solution seems to be off the table (which, of course, means that the Irish Question will come up again, and border crossings in Northern Ireland need to be policed). In essence: Peace in Northern Ireland has just become more precarious.

UKIP support had fallen almost immediately after the Brexit referendum. Nigel Farage had resigned as leader of the party, and ever since it's just been a shadow of its former self. Since this election, UKIP has become meaningless, they haven't secured a single seat in parliament. However, "Brexit is now in jeopardy" is a bit of an overstatement. With a conservative government (and Article 50 already being triggered), the UK will continue its process of leaving the EU. What is in jeopardy is May's previous strategy of a "Hard Brexit" (i.e. "good deal or no deal for the UK"), which, it seems, a lot of voters didn't want. While another Brexit referendum is technically possible, I don't see this happening.

That's the thing to take away from this, and shouldn't be understated: After Tony Blair had become Prime Minister with his "New Labour" approach (which was basically a "Tory light" version of governance, with strong neo-liberal policies), Labour has been in absoulte shambles. The voters saw (and rightly so) the neo-liberal party line of the Blair government (as well as participation in the Iraq War) as a betrayal of the party's own ideals and the spirit of what it stands for. Ever since Jeremy Corbyn got elected leader of the Labour Party, he's been very firm on his very traditional social-democratic ideals, and pulled the party back to the place where it was before Blair. He's had to face several in-party revolts due to these shift and survived plenty of attempts to dethrone him. That Labour has gotten the best voting result in DECADES despite (or, rather, because of) his policies is a HUGE vindication and shows how right he was to pursue this new party line.

 

Labour has 31 more seats than they had before the election, they prevented a Tory majority, managed to unite almost all other parties against the Tories (even the LibDems!), managed to get a LOT of young people out to vote (the vast majority of which voted Labour), leading to the highest voter turnout in recent history, all the while going back to classic social democratic policies and without cozying up to neo-liberal and neo-conservative ideology. How is this not a win?

Meanwhile, the Tories lost 12 seats, along with the majority they previously held in parliament, and the future of the Prime Minister seems very uncertain. They're the clear loser of this election, and needlessly so. They called it early, thinking it to be an easy win, and it spectacularly backfired.

 

What an irony Nick Clegg gets kicked out while Macron is about to win the General Election English Channel Southbound.

 

Just for your information, James Comey is between opportunities. Fly him in for advice.....

 

It is "again" AyaLaRoux.

I have been stumbling around on multiple sites all morning trying to make sense of this election and how May is trying to save her political ass. And it all seemed to be just confusing gibberish to me. And you just made perfect understandable sense of it with remarkable clarity. You are absolutely one of the most excellent writers I have seen in a very long time. Thank you.

 

UK election result: How the world reacted
The result of the UK election, with the ruling Conservatives unexpectedly losing their overall majority, has sent shockwaves across Europe and beyond.

Politicians across the Continent have been questioning the impact on the Brexit talks.

Jean-Claude Juncker, head of the European Commission, said he wanted discussions to proceed without delay.

"As far as the Commission is concerned we can open negotiations tomorrow morning at half past nine," he said.

"First we have to agree on the divorce and exit modalities, and then we have to envisage the architecture of our future relations. I do hope that the result of the elections will have no major impact on the negotiations we are desperately waiting for."

Sweden's former Prime Minister Carl Bildt, who now chairs the European Council on Foreign Relations think-tank, called the outcome "messy".

"One mess risks following another. Price to be paid for lack of true leadership," he tweeted.

'Another own goal'
Brexit negotiator Guy Verhofstadt, who is president of the Alliance of Liberals & Democrats for Europe in the European Parliament, had caustic words for Mrs May.

"Yet another own goal, after Cameron now May, will make already complex negotiations even more complicated," he tweeted.

Michel Barnier, the EU's chief negotiator for Brexit, had a more conciliatory message. "#Brexit negotiations should start when UK is ready; timetable and EU positions are clear. Let's put our minds together on striking a deal," he said.

European Council President Donald Tusk alluded to the March 2019 deadline for Brexit talks.

"We don't know when Brexit talks start. We know when they must end. Do your best to avoid a 'no deal' as result of 'no negotiations'," he wrote.

The EU's foreign policy chief, Federica Mogherini, said it was uncertain when Britain would have a clear Brexit strategy.

"One year after their referendum, we still don't know the British position in the negotiations on Brexit and it seems difficult to predict when we will, because democracy often requires time," she observed.

A spokeswoman for German Chancellor Angela Merkel said her government would not comment on the election result out of "politeness and respect" while the process of forming a new government was ongoing.

• Can Theresa May stay as PM?
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• Election 2017: The result in maps

Meanwhile Irish Prime Minister-elect Leo Varadkar was positive about the outcome.

"The results of the UK election indicate to me that there is no strong mandate to proceed with a hard Brexit, which represents an opportunity for Ireland," he said.

He also described the result as an opportunity to re-engage in talks to restore Northern Ireland's devolved power-sharing administration, which collapsed in January.

Mrs May is expected to form a government with the backing of Northern Ireland's Democratic Unionists.

World media notes May setback
European newspapers have been focusing on the uncertainty about Mrs May's future and the anger among Britain's voters.

There has been no official reaction yet from the US, but the Washington Post newspaper noted the unpredictable nature of recent British politics.

"The results mark the second time in as many years that the British body politic has defied predictions, scrambled the country's direction and bucked the will of a prime minister who had gambled by calling a vote when none had been required," it said.

"But unlike last year's EU referendum - which delivered a clear if close verdict to get out of the bloc - the will of the voters who cast ballots Thursday was not nearly as easy to decipher."

Looking east from London, the Chinese press offered largely factual reports, with little comment except to say the result would have a "huge" impact on Brexit discussions.

In Hong Kong, independent outlets said the Tories had made a "grave miscalculation".

Shi Zhiqin, a professor from Tsinghua University in Beijing, said China might no longer see the need to keep Britain as a strong ally in the EU.

"But I think Britain's main concern is to keep China as a trade partner after it lost the EU market," he told the South China Morning Post.

In Russia, state-owned news agency RIA Novosti is claiming the Conservatives will not forgive Theresa May for the result, and predicts a new prime minister.

On the morning of 9 June, state-run rolling news channel Rossiya 24 called it "Theresa May's devastating defeat."

A correspondent for Qatar-funded Al Jazeera TV, which ran a special segment on the polls, said the opposition Labour Party led by Jeremy Corbyn had led a "fierce campaign that the Conservative Party did not expect".

The results were covered prominently on some Lebanese newspaper websites, with the front page of left-wing Al Akhbar newspaper reading: "Britain: Corbyn brings down the hopes of the Conservatives."

In India, newspapers are taking an interest in Preet Gill, who has become the UK's first Sikh woman MP, and Tanmanjeet Singh Dhesi, the first turban-wearing Sikh winner.

Indian headlines also concluded that the result was a setback for Theresa May, with the Hindustan Times calling it a "stunning blow" for the prime minister.

Congratulations to Corbyn
Labour boosted its number of seats by 29 overnight, exciting Corbyn supporters abroad.

US Senator Bernie Sanders, the former Democratic presidential candidate, told the Washington Post he was thrilled.

"I am delighted to see Labour do so well. All over the world people are rising up against austerity and massive levels of income and wealth inequality.

"People in the UK, the US and elsewhere want governments that represent all the people, not just the 1%. I congratulate Jeremy Corbyn for running a very positive and effective campaign."

Bill Shorten, leader of the Australian Labor Party, made similar observations, telling reporters:

"One of the things which my counterpart, the Labour leader in the United Kingdom, did is he campaigned and his slogan was 'For the many, not the few.'

"I think Mr Turnbull [Australia's prime minister] would be well advised to look at the popularity of that message."

 

Comey may be fresh out of opportunities when Trump's lawyers get through with him.

 

Here is a very interesting article and breakdown of how the voters reacted in the election through the view of maps and graphs ...

Election 2017: The result in maps and charts

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-2017-40176349

 

I know what you mean...Good here isn't it ?

The thing is that She has "won" but she will probably face a vote of no confidence from the people she works with because of her deficit, her 2 main advisors "resigned" today so she is trying to spread the blame, it won't work.

The reason is that there are always 3 or 4 that seek the position of Prime minister and wait for the right opportunity.

Boris Johnson has been unusually quiet, he may not be the next leader but I would bet heavy that he will be the one after.

 

Does anyone actually think that the terrorists really care which party has the majority in Parliment?

The ''unvetted terrorists'' in the UK is the only issue at hand that needs to be addressed.

Or, just as Mayor Sadiq Khan;'' you're just going to need to live with it''

 

You know I really have to hand it to you and AyaLaRoux, JPT. This is still a pretty big story over here today but they seem to be focusing on how its a rejection of Trump and still saying its a total disaster for May. But thanks to you two and this thread I actually know more about it than they do.

 

Those who rave about the United States Constitution, and who say that we should get back to Constitutional government, want things to get even worse.

Of course, part of it is a matter of character. The Europeans are more civilized.

Part of it comes from an aristocratic tradition. Europeans are less connected to their job titles for their sense of self worth. They are more willing to resign when things have not gone well.

 

Trump knows he fucked up.

Trump cancels trip to Britain to avoid ‘large scale protests’: report

 

Dude, seriously.

You have a warped sense of what we are like in Europe. We can be a pretty violent, aggressive bunch of motherfuckers if we want.
I have spent enough time in America to know that we are pretty much the same, we are no more civilised than the USA our character is not in any way superior to anyone anywhere as I can see.

As for resigning, well we have an opportunity to see how Theresa May will hang on to her job until there is no alternative...

I bet the gouges Margaret Thatchers fingernails left at Number 10 are still visible.