I think humans do not have the brain capacity to fully comprehend a definitive label such as gay, str8.. I have labeled myself str8.. although, because I really enjoy cocksucking and having a big hard cock pounding my ass, I have argued, debated and talked to many deaf ears.... I enjoy the physical feeling of sucking not much different then thumb sucking just the adult version... I have no "feelings" for the guys I suck off, I don't even know most of their names... It has always been BNG... then back to my gf... All my female partners were aware of my kinks, never bothered them..

 

I was just noticing today that many of the women here are either really into bisexual guys or are completely tolerant and fine with homosexuality.

I haven’t seen a lot of homophobic guys here but I’m sure that now that I’m thinking about it I’ll be able to reflect and find it in the future. I’ve at least not seen anyone being a complete asshole about it. Maybe it’s to do with the fact that I’m mostly in the sexuality forums and not general or anything.

 

The stupidity of BeatItUpRight just fucking amazes me
It's like talking to a flat earther - go outside and look around!!! It's fucking flat!!! aaaaaaaa!!!!

 

This thread took an interesting turn.

First of all, being called a man is absolutely something that needs to be earned. If you disagree with that then you must be from somewhere where being a man doesn't require a damn thing of you. That isn't what the history of being a man has ever been. It has always meant being a provider, being a rock, being able to protect and defend one's self and those he cares about. Even in societies that were run by women, the men were the warriors who were tasked with protecting them. All of these things are to this day expected of any man, and you're a fucking liar if you don't admit that. Even the most enlightened of you still display those views when it comes to how you judge men and what you want in a man. I've seen it multiple times here from all of you. Society is so unbelievably hypocritical when it comes to (largely specifically straight) men. It expects so much of us without ever admitting to or acknowledging it then tries to make us out to be ignorant if we subscribe to any of the stereotypes about men and specifically straight men that are drilled into our heads from literally every source there is. It wants us to not view being a man as something different yet won't be honest about the fact that a straight man is the least likely person to be seen as an innocent victim of violence or a genuine innocent and human being the same way women and LGBT men are. It has completely different standards for us then labels us ignorant for subscribing to any of them.

Most guys flat out don't think or care about the sexuality of other men. Things are not that deep between men. That's just how it is. People having an aversion to flambouyant gay people has to do with this. A lot of guys flat out don't want to think about other guys as sexual beings.

I have not seen anybody say that homophobia doesn't exist. It absolutely does, and it has no place anywhere in society as far as I'm concerned. What I do also see a lot of though is pushback towards flambouyant gay men for the way they are so front and center when it comes to everything these days and especially the way gay white men completely copy largely black culture and slang as if it's their own and as if being gay makes them somehow not white and privileged. I think it's completely disingenuous to remove these things from this conversation, not to mention that plenty of gay people have proven to be racist.

Having said all of that, closed-mindedness and the undercurrent of wannabe masculine bullshit I see in this forum has no place here. For everybody who is just being himself and sharing his thoughts like BeatItUpRight consistently does, there are plenty of pussy ass dudes who use being closed-minded and being bullies to feel big and bad. That is the real undercurrent I refer to here. It's most evident in General Discussion but it absolutely exists here, too.

 

And if a guy ever so much as hints at any of what I said in the first paragraph, he's made out to be whiny, often by the exact same people who claim to be so god damn enlightened.

Even though anybody who isn't a fraudulent pussy knows that needing to talk big like that and do that shit is a sure sign of a little bitch pretending to be hard.

Point is, stop being hypocritical.

 

I fail to see how choosing the types of people you associate with is intolerant or homophobic. I'm not saying I feel the same way but I don't like seeing somebody be crucified or labeled this or that based on it.

We're all the same. We're all supposed to be equal and not treat anybody differently or single them out as being different. Well if we're all the same then somebody can choose not to like or associate with you based on your personality or behavior.

Expecting to be treated differently or to have special privileges others don't have is the epitome of being privileged.

 

I think your assessment is incorrect.... Male or female I do not think any particular group as issues with gay men... Hey dude whatever... You like to suck dick.. Cool... Personally, having an issue with how a person chooses to live his life is a waste of time in my book. I also think that gay and lesbian men or women have a NEED to hold on to this feeling that they are being discriminated against... I honestly do not think the vast majority of people care what or who you do...

 

Ahhhhh, the newly anointed ____Phobic words, just insert a particular 'preference' or a certain religion, say, in the blank, if you happen to have a particular opposing view, of the said ____phobic word.

People don't really care what each other is, sexually-wise, or race-wise, or religion-wise, but today's modern lefties will keep inventing new words to attempt to keep us all confused. But people do care about being talked at, being told to be 'tolerant' and accepting, to every little whim and fashion of the day,......I couldn't care less if a person is homosexual or not, but I DO care not to be told that a particular lifestyle, is the new norm when I MAY have an opposing view.
These new _____phobic words, mean absolutely nothing to me, especially when they are very, very, very over-used.
I remember having a conversation with my mother about race issues, and when I gave a certain personal view,......she asked me "Are you racist!?" I replied back to her "Don't try that lefty goobledegook on me!", that word racist, means nothing to me. This is the same view I have about the word 'homophobia', it means bugger all to me, except for the very real fact that 'certain' groups in humanity, will use their lefty rhetoric to play the continual victim card. They tend to be similar to feminists,......even though they have all the rights and privileges they they 'fought' for, (or rather complained about), they still have to keep going and going and going on about their 'struggle',......the old quote "Give 'em an inch, and they will take a mile", springs to mind.

In fact, I propose a new word for the dictionary; Victimhoodaphobia, yeah,.....let's see how far that goes! ;-)

Some people dislike others, for a whole myriad of reasons, so bloody what I say,......just because modern lefty society says to accept this, that and the other, because if you don't you're a _____phobic, or an ______phobic, or even an ____phobic, doesn't mean I will,......the lefty's can't change human-nature, and how people think inside their minds. My god, they are trying hard though!!

As a salient point, Gay people might try to be a little less aggressive when spouting about their sexuality in public-domains. If homophobia does exist, how does it help their cause to see grown men in tight spandex shorts and flowery head-dress, (and nothing else) dancing through the city streets, spouting about how liberating it is, to be openly 'proud' about how gay they are??
That kind of behaviour will not, and doesn't win any supporters or allies to their cause. It seems to me that their behaviour in this manner, is more of a middle finger towards a modern society that DOES allow and ENCOURAGES their behaviour, kind of like "Biting the hand that feeds them".

 

I get that, I would date girls but with a guy, it'd be purely cock and cum loving

 

Here's my two cents worth, and I don't think I'm answering your question directly, but I'm going to give you two pennies anyway.
I've had several friends who were openly gay, I hung out with them, ate lunch with them partied with them. Never felt uncomfortable, in fact they have been the most caring and sincere people I've met. For laughs I would talk very perverted with them and they would blush and giggle, but they knew my preference, knew I was having fun, and I knew I was making them laugh as well.
I SAID ALL THAT TO SAY THIS
People are scared of things they don't understand or want to even try to understand. Fear leads to hate and that's where homophobic men are stuck.
But I'm willing to bet that they wanna put their dick in a girls butthole, and I don't think there's much difference in buttholes.

I digress
PS- I love pussy.
Love Peace and turkey grease

 

How come I missed this discussion when it was held in March???

 

Hate em goddamnit I hate em, but only because I can't get them to shove their dick up by butt

 

Spending to much time in "Pictures"?

 

I don't care if you're gay or not. I've found that the most hateful people towards someone who is gay are religious.

Someone being gay doesn't change the way you live so why try and change who they are just because being gay doesn't fit your single minded and closed views.

 

Very well said!

 

With this discussion, you also cannot leave out how modern society emasculates straight males.

 

I agree with Jenny.

If you are so vocally and emotionally poisonous to somebodies sexual preference, it might signal a deeper meaning or insecurity.

Personally, I don’t care if you are gay, Lez, LGBQT.... or any other consonant we will soon add to the mix. I’m not angry with you. Maybe scratching my head, thinking WTF?

I love women. I kissed a girl in Kindergarten. I know I’m straight. So who gives A damn. I know who I am and don’t ask permission and never apologize for being the way am. But I don’t shove it everyone’s face.

Live your life and do no harm.

 

You are painting with a broad brush regarding phobia’s and anger.

Let’s put the phobia/anger issue aside for a moment. I agree with your comment about not caring what anyone’s sexuality is but here is where I disagree. Truly open minded people will mutually respect each other’s point of view; and this includes keeping behaviors within certain boundaries. When a certain persons behavior impacts others - for example, a person who I work with being flamboyantly gay, this could be offensive to people. For the most part, people mostly subscribe to the philosophy ‘keep your shit on your side of the fence and in your yard and we have no issue, - but when you are in the workplace, social settings etc. behaviors of one kind or another should not be tolerated. Now getting back to phobia and anger this is where I can see where this would come into play.

Many heterosexual people do not walk around flaunting their heterosexuality but on the other hand many homosexuals openly flaunt their sexual preference which is an issue. In an attempt to exemplify their difference they openly cross the boundary of what is acceptable behavior for the setting. Many people exploit the political correctness of the day and it infringes on people’s rights to decide what they wish to entertain socially. That said, if everyone truly respected both sides without infringement we wouldn’t have this discussion. Everyone has a choice and can have their own opinion.

 

Don't get me started on this.

Look, I don't care how anybody chooses to be and there is no one way to be a man but every single one of these guys in commercials or TV shows or movies or everything else that is everywhere these days, every one of these beta males grandstands and postures as if they're a hardass. And they all have such wimpy voices, almost like they haven't hit puberty. I'm sorry but if you talk like a wuss then you're a wuss. If you're built like a wuss then you're probably a wuss. If you dress like a boy whose mom picks out his clothes then you're probably a wuss.

But these complete beta male pussies are held up as the standard for and example of the modern man, and that's just ridiculous. They are so whiny and so not a man or even an adult that it's grating to hear them talk about anything for very long. They have the logic of a spoiled child. Yet if we say anything, we're somehow the one who needs to be schooled.