Korea A day that may go down in history

Truthful 1 · Jul 12, 2018

Put this to rest it over. Onto new news . Chubby knows where he stands now.

stumbler · Jul 16, 2018

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And as it turns out, the fat fuck in North Korea has returned to his former ways .........
https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/04be8c1d-aab0-3b3f-a104-6b974ec35e63/ss_north-korea-snubs-us-on.html
North Korea snubs US on returning Korean War dead — and it's a slap in the face for Trump

Now with prior administrations, we'd be asking the fat fuck what the problem was, and offering money to give him incentive to come play with us.

Shooter thinks Trump won't be quite as nice about it. But, we'll see.
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This can't be right. Why just the other day Trump was bragging Kim Jong Un sent him a very nice note.

Trump tweets ‘very nice note’ from North Korea’s Kim Jong Un

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Thursday tweeted a letter to him from North Korean leader Kim Jong Un heralding “epochal progress” in U.S.-North Korea relations, despite signs that path-finding diplomacy between the adversaries is running into problems.

Trump described the letter as a “very nice note” and said, “Great progress being made!”

The letter is dated July 6. That’s when Secretary of State Mike Pompeo visited Pyongyang and seemingly made little progress in fleshing out details of North Korea’s commitment for “complete denuclearization.”

Kim made that commitment when he met Trump in Singapore last month. Kim also agreed then to repatriate remains of U.S. troops who died during the Korean War six decades ago.

A planned meeting Thursday between North Korean and U.S. officials in the Demilitarized Zone between the two Koreas to discuss the return of the remains was postponed.

State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert said North Korea called at midday Thursday and offered to meet on Sunday instead. “We will be ready,” she told reporters aboard Pompeo’s plane, as the top U.S. diplomat flew home to Washington after attending a NATO summit.

It wasn’t immediately clear what prompted the postponement. South Korea’s Yonhap news agency, citing unnamed sources, said the North requested talks at a higher level. The talks Sunday are expected to involve officials from the Pentagon and the U.N. Command, which commanded U.S.-led allied forces during the war and is involved in maintaining the armistice that ended the fighting in 1953.

Pompeo told reporters after his visit to North Korea last week that the meeting in the truce village Panmunjom was set for Thursday but “could move by one day or two.”

The secretary of state did not meet Kim as he had on his previous two trips to Pyongyang this year, and after his departure, the North’s foreign ministry accused the U.S. of making “gangster-like” demands that it unilaterally give up its nuclear weapons.

Pompeo gave a rosier readout. He reported that the two sides had substantive discussions on next steps toward denuclearization.

During an official visit to Britain, Trump posted images of the Korean-language letter from Kim and its English translation. Kim expresses “invariable trust and confidence” in the president and wishes that “epochal progress” in promoting relations will “bring our next meeting forward.”

But there’s growing skepticism in Washington over the Trump administration’s engagement with North Korea. Recent reports suggest that the North has continued to expand infrastructure at nuclear and missile sites and that U.S. intelligence assesses that the North does not intend to fully denuclearize.

The U.S. says North Korea has continued to smuggle refined petroleum products into the country in excess of the quota of 500,000 barrels per year allowed under U.N. sanctions imposed because of nuclear and missile programs. That’s according to documents seen by The Associated Press on Thursday and sent by the U.S. to the Security Council committee monitoring the sanctions.

Trump himself has remained upbeat about the outcome of the first summit between the leaders of the U.S. and North Korea. Earlier Thursday, after attending the NATO summit in Brussels, he told reporters that there were clear signs of progress with North Korea, most notably that no missile and nuclear tests have occurred for almost nine months.
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But I have to wonder if Mike Pompeo and Trump ever talk.

Mike Pompeo admits his North Korea meeting was a disaster: It went ‘as badly as it could have gone’

As President Donald Trump’s one-on-one meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin approaches, Russia experts are growing increasingly anxious that he’ll blow the opportunity.

On Tuesday, CNN reported that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who’d helped oversee Donald Trump’s meeting with Kim Jong-un, thinks that his own meeting with the North Korean officials had not gone according to plan.

According to sources, Pompeo said it went “as badly as it could have gone.”
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stumbler · Jul 18, 2018

Oh yeah that Trump. What a deal maker.

Trump now says no 'time limit' to denuclearize North Korea

Washington (AFP) - President Donald Trump said Tuesday there is no hurry to denuclearize North Korea under his accord with Kim Jong Un -- a shift in tone from when the US leader said the process would start very soon.

"Discussions are ongoing and they're going very, very well," Trump told reporters.

"We have no time limit. We have no speed limit."

Trump said he discussed North Korea with Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday at their summit in Helsinki.

"President Putin is going to be involved in the sense that he is with us," Trump said.

The Republican president met with Kim on June 12 for an unprecedented summit in Singapore during which the North Korean leader pledged to work toward denuclearization of the peninsula.

But the accord did not spell out a timetable for the process or say how it would be carried out. Diplomats are now expected to hammer out the details.

More than a month later, no concrete progress has been reported and North Korea has complained the Americans are making unilateral demands.

Before the Singapore summit, the Trump administration said denuclearization should start "without delay," and after the meeting, it spoke of the process beginning "very quickly."

A day after the meeting, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said the bulk of North Korea's denuclearization should be completed by the end of Trump's term in 2020.

The White House has hailed the summit between Kim and Trump in Singapore as a major breakthrough toward disarming the isolated, nuclear-armed North in exchange for easing of sanctions and other help with economic development.

Pompeo met with Kim's key aide this month during his latest trip to Pyongyang but as soon as he left, the North's foreign ministry berated him over his "unilateral and gangster-like" demands.

Trump last week signaled optimism however, unveiling a letter from Kim in which the young leader hailed the "start of a meaningful journey" and tweeting "Great progress being made!"
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stumbler · Jul 19, 2018

North Korea hasn't met its promise to return US war remains

WASHINGTON (AP) — More than a month after North Korea pledged to immediately return some American war dead, the promise is unfulfilled.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who traveled to Pyongyang this month to press the North Koreans further, said Wednesday the return could begin "in the next couple of weeks." But it could take months or years to positively identify the bones as those of specific American servicemen.

In a joint statement at their Singapore summit, President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un committed to recovering the remains of prisoners of war and those missing in action decades after the Korean War — "including the immediate repatriation of those already identified."

That was more than a month ago, on June 12. Although Trump said eight days later that the repatriation had happened, it had not. It still has not. So, it was not "immediate," though the Stars and Stripes newspaper reported from South Korea on Tuesday that the North has agreed to transfer as many as 55 sets of remains next week. The Pentagon and the State Department declined to comment on any specifics promised by the North.

"We're making progress along the border to get the return of remains, a very important issue for those families," Pompeo said Wednesday at the White House. "I think in the next couple of weeks we'll have the first remains returned, that's the commitment, so progress certainly being made there."

Likely also to prove untrue is the part of the Trump-Kim statement that said the North had war remains "already identified." It apparently has bones and perhaps associated personal effects, but history shows that any remains handed over by the North are likely to be difficult to identify. In recent days the State Department has changed that phrase to "already collected," suggesting it realized the remains have not been identified.

"There are no missing Americans who have been 'already identified' by the DPRK (North Korea) to be repatriated," says Paul Cole, who has researched POW-MIA issues from the Korean War for decades and served for four years as a scientific fellow at the Pentagon's Central Identification Laboratory in Hawaii. He said this element of the Singapore statement "reflects a near total ignorance of the role of science" in accounting for war dead.

There is even some doubt that any remains turned over would be of Americans. Trump admitted as much in a CBS News interview July 14.

"You know, remains are complicated," he said. "Some of the remains, they don't even know if they are remains."

That's a big step back from his false assertion June 20 in Duluth, Minnesota: "We got back our great fallen heroes, the remains sent back today, already 200 got sent back."

Richard Downes, whose father, Air Force Lt. Hal Downes, is among the Korean War missing, says hopes may have been raised too quickly.

"Yes, the Singapore statement overpromised," he said, "exacerbated by our hope that it was accurate."

Hope has long sustained Downes and thousands of other Americans who seek closure after decades of uncertainty about a relative missing from the war. The Pentagon says 7,699 U.S. servicemen are missing from Korea, including about 5,300 believed to be in the North. Downes, 70, was 3½ when his father's B-26 Invader went down on Jan. 13, 1952, northeast of Pyongyang, the North Korean capital. His family was left to wonder about his fate. Downes is now executive director of the Coalition of Families of Korean and Cold War POW/MIAs, which advocates for remains recovery.

The Singapore statement may yet prove to be an important breakthrough. Bringing its promise to fruition, however, is proving harder than Trump made it seem.

As Mark Fitzpatrick of the International Institute for Strategic Studies put it in a web essay last week, "What was supposed to be the easiest item on the United States-North Korea negotiations agenda — the return of Korean War soldiers' remains — is proving to be yet another sticking point."

Beyond the promised initial return of remains that the North may have been holding in storage for years, the State Department said Sunday the two sides have agreed to restart searches for burial locations of U.S. war remains in North Korea. That effort was suspended by the U.S. in 2005. This raises another delicate issue to be negotiated: how much the U.S. would pay the North for this access. In the past it has paid millions, saying the money was "fair and reasonable compensation" for the North's help, not payment for bones or information.

In Fitzpatrick's view, the North has dangled the promise of war remains as bait to attain political objectives such as progress toward a peace treaty to replace the armistice agreement that ended the fighting on the Korean Peninsula in July 1953. The North sees this political objective as an essential element of ending what it calls Washington's hostile policy toward the North, which in turn is linked to its willingness to give up its nuclear weapons.

The Singapore summit was mainly about Trump's push to rid North Korea of its nuclear weapons. He said afterward there was no longer a nuclear threat from the North, though Kim agreed only to "work toward complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula," and no detailed plan has been worked out. On Tuesday, Trump seemed to reveal his own doubts about timing. He told reporters, "We have no rush for speed," adding, "We're just going through the process."
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Kim really suckered Trump. But his supporters are even bigger suckers for believing anything he says.

Hush · Jul 19, 2018

AND AS EXPECTED... The whole Korea thing meant to be nothing more than a show to get Trump by a little longer, is already, all but forgotten by most.

THAT is the point of Trump's constant chaos. Here, watch this hand, are you watching? Now look at my other hand... presto, a red ball somehow appeared. It's all about distraction. And whatever hand you're looking at, or current nonsense of his you're dealing with, he's actually fucking something else up instead. It's not clever, it's how a con-man works.

Hush....an alias

slutwolf · Jul 19, 2018

Trump not easily bullshitted , and consequences for the little fat fukr ,
This I gotta see.
But will certainly not be holding my breath.

Must be about time Putin slipped Kim the plans for an improved (Ukrainian) ICBM ,
dontchya think.

stumbler · Jul 19, 2018

Hey @shootersa read the story because so far that is all we are getting if that. Just some old bones and trinkets. We don't even know who they belong to. And North Korea has been playing this same game for decades. And all Trump does is keep kissing Kim's ads while his nuclear program is going full steam ahead

stumbler · Jul 23, 2018

Report: North Korea Wants Permanent U.S. Peace Treaty Before Ditching Nukes

[quote]Kim Jong Un will not proceed with denuclearization unless Donald Trump commits the U.S. to a permanent peace treaty with North Korea, CNN reports. Citing an unnamed official with “close knowledge” of North Korea’s position, the report states Trump will have to replace the armistice agreement that ended the Korean War with a promise of permanent peace that would guarantee the survival of Kim’s regime. North Korea is also putting pressure on the Trump administration to start lifting sanctions, believing it has already done “so much” by freezing nuclear and missile testing, destroying one of its nuclear sites, and promising to repatriate U.S. troops’ remains. But Trump and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo have urged North Korea to be patient. “We have no rush for speed... We have no time limit. We have no speed limit. We have—we’re just going through the process. But the relationships are very good,” Trump said last week.[/quote]

And on a side note there is much cheering in celebrating in Iran this morning because of Trump's latest tweet.

Trump tweet--“NEVER, EVER THREATEN THE UNITED STATES AGAIN OR YOU WILL SUFFER CONSEQUENCES THE LIKES OF WHICH FEW THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE EVER SUFFERED BEFORE. WE ARE NO LONGER A COUNTRY THAT WILL STAND FOR YOUR DEMENTED WORDS OF VIOLENCE & DEATH. BE CAUTIOUS!”

Because they know the last time he did that he was threatening North Korea ended up giving Kim Jong un the presidential summit North Korea has wanted for decades, And then sat down with Kim and promptely gave him the farm.

Wazzaox · Jul 23, 2018

Surprise surprise both sides full of shit, nothing happening, back to square one

stumbler · Jul 23, 2018

Wazzaox said: ↑

Surprise surprise both sides full of shit, nothing happening, back to square one
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Well this is not exactly true. Our side is doing nothing. While North Korea continues their nuclear arms program and is very busy hiding all their nuclear assets.

Truthful 1 · Jul 23, 2018

Let it die. It's over

shootersa · Jul 23, 2018

Just more spew. No matter what President Trump does, no matter what world leaders do, no matter what happens, Trump will be criticized. Cause ............. Trump.

It's been little over a month, and the unsupporters are sounding the defeat and surrender.

stumbler · Jul 23, 2018

What makes me laugh are the Trump supporters who said they believed Trump when he said North Korea was no longer a threat.

Trump is the one who claimed instant success. And the supporters just pretend that did not happen.

shootersa · Jul 23, 2018

Oh?
Which trump supporters would that be, you know, that believed Trump when he said North Korea was no longer a threat?

As Shooter recalls, the only people reacting to Trump's statement were unsupporters, frothing that the man was selling out the US and getting the shitty end of the deal.

stumbler · Jul 23, 2018

Trump supporters support everything Trump says unquestionably and never criticize what he does or says. They just go along.

Distant Lover · Jul 23, 2018

stumbler said: ↑

Trump supporters support everything Trump says unquestionably and never criticize what he does or says. They just go along.
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That is the essence of the authoritarian personality.

submissively speaking · Jul 23, 2018

But .... he was gonna go down in history.

stumbler · Jul 23, 2018

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But .... he was gonna go down in history.
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Oh Trump is already going down in history alright. And the most dishonest, corrupt, lying, playable sucker in US presidential history.

Distant Lover · Jul 23, 2018

Why do you think he won't? Personally, I have no doubt that Donald Trump will be regarded by future historians as an influential person and president.

- tenguy

Influential yes, but in what direction?

He will be evaluated by whether or not real income for most Americans increases substantially, as it did under Eisenhower, Kennedy and Johnson. He will also be evaluated by how he handles economic and foreign policy crises.

I find Trump to be impulsive and unimpressive intellectually. Ronald Reagan was also unimpressive intellectually. Nevertheless, he listened to his advisers. One can almost say that during the Reagan years Reagan's advisers ran the country. I do not think Trump listens to his advisers.

shootersa · Jul 24, 2018

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Oh Trump is already going down in history alright. And the most dishonest, corrupt, lying, playable sucker in US presidential history.
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And that speaks volumes about hillary..........
Thank God for deplorables.

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