Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Pussy.Patrol, Apr 10, 2017.
It's scary, but he makes a fairly good looking bride.
Kim like Americans go long sleep
This was the work of the State Department and the State Department ALONE and had zero to do with that circus freak Denise Rodwoman ... otherwise known as msman's/M4M's doppleganger LMAO.
US student 'brutalised' in North Korea and left in a coma for over a year pictured as he returns home
Otto Warmbier, who is still in a coma, is carried off of an aeroplane in the US overnight Credit: Barcroft Media
14 June 2017 • 10:36am
An American student who fell into a coma while imprisoned in a North Korean labor camp returned to the United States late Tuesday after Pyongyang allowed him to be flown home, US media reported.
A military aeroplane carrying Otto Warmbier landed in his hometown of Cincinnati shortly before 10:20pm (0220 GMT Wednesday), CBS News reported.
The release of Warmbier, 18 months into a 15-year sentence, came as US President Donald Trump invited South Korea's new leader Moon Jae-In to Washington for talks on the escalating stand-off over the North's nuclear program.
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said earlier in the day that his agency had "secured" 22-year-old Warmbier's release during discussions with North Korea, and is pushing for three more Americans to be freed. It was not immediately clear if he had made any concessions.
The news surfaced after the flamboyant retired NBA basketball star Dennis Rodman - a former contestant on Trump's "Celebrity Apprentice" reality show - flew to Pyongyang to resume his quixotic quest to broker detente between his US homeland and Kim Jong-Un's authoritarian regime. But State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert said the visit "had nothing to do with the release".
Warmbier's parents Fred and Cindy announced his release in a statement to CNN on Tuesday.
"Sadly, he is in a coma and we have been told he has been in that condition since March of 2016," they said. "We learned of this only one week ago.
"We want the world to know how we and our son have been brutalised and terrorised by the pariah regime in North Korea. We are so grateful that he will finally be with people who love him."
On arriving in Cincinnatti's Lunken Airport, Warmbier was transferred to a waiting ambulance that rushed him to the University of Cincinnati Medical Center for urgent treatment, Fox News reported.
Warmbier's parents were told their son was given a sleeping pill soon after his trial in March last year and never woke.
US officials refused to comment on his condition, but former ambassador and New Mexico governor Bill Richardson said he had spoken with the family.
Otto Frederick Warmbier arrives at a court for his trial in Pyongyang, capital of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) Credit: Rex Features
"Otto has been in a coma for over a year now and urgently needs proper medical care in the United States," said Richardson, who has previously served as a special envoy to North Korea and still works on prisoner issues.
"We received a call from Cindy and Fred Warmbier early today to update us on Otto's condition. In no uncertain terms, North Korea must explain the causes of his coma."
Tillerson told US senators at the start of a budget hearing that the State Department had no comment on Warmbier's condition "out of respect for him and his family."
The United States had accused the North of using Warmbier as a political pawn, condemning the sentence as far out of proportion to his alleged crime.
The release came amid tension between Washington and Pyongyang following a series of missile tests by the North, focusing attention on an arms build-up that Pentagon chief Jim Mattis on Monday dubbed "a clear and present danger to all."
Almost immediately on taking office in January, Trump and his team - having been briefed by the outgoing president Barack Obama - declared the North's attempts to build, test and arm a nuclear-capable ballistic missile as Washington's biggest threat.
Washington has stepped up pressure on China and other foreign powers to enforce existing UN sanctions, and has deployed increased military assets of its own in the region.
Tillerson indicated on Tuesday that Washington is looking for new ways to increase pressure on Pyongyang, telling senators that the White House is considering whether to impose "secondary sanctions" on third countries that do business with North Korea.
Mattis: North Korea is a danger to the world 01:03
Parallel to that track, basketball showman Rodman arrived Tuesday in Pyongyang wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with the logo of a cryptocurrency set up for marijuana marketers.
The star has visited the North at least four times before, most recently in 2014 when he attracted a deluge of criticism after being filmed singing happy birthday to his "friend for life," leader Kim.
Before arriving this time, Rodman told reporters that Trump would be happy with the trip because he was "trying to accomplish something that we both need," prompting speculation that he may be operating as an unofficial envoy.
US officials dismissed the rumours, saying he was travelling as a private citizen.
Warmbier, a student at the University of Virginia, was arrested for removing a political banner from a wall at a North Korean hotel. He was detained at the airport as he was leaving the country with a tour group in January 2016.
At a news conference before his trial, a sobbing Warmbier said he had made "the worst mistake of my life" and pleaded to be released.
The North has occasionally jailed US citizens and released them only after visits by high-profile political figures, including former president Bill Clinton.
No further words from me are necessary.
How about all the other Americans being held by North Korea? Has Trump got them released? And how many new prisoners has North Korea taken since Trump got elected?
So Stumbler, because the Warmbier parents say Obama told them to be quiet about it, but Trump brought him home, you froth.
So, lets follow this out; see can you answer the questions?
How many Americans are known to be held by North Korea?
How many new American prisoners has North Korea grabbed since Trump took office?
(bonus question; What for?)
And while you are at it, how many of the families of these North Korean prisoners were told by Trump to shut up?
@shootersa: Isn't it funny how Stumbler posed these exact questions to me a few posts down?
@stumbler: I figured you'd enjoy this story. The father criticized the Obama administration, and praised the Trump administration.
Yeah that will happen from time to time. And that was especially true when the Obama Administration took the posiioun that under most circumstances it was c0unter productive to negotiate with terrorists and dictators holding US hostages because it just encouraged them to take more hostages because they were rewarded for it.
But even so there were lots of hostages taken by North Korea that were releasede due to diplomatic efforts.
But in your efforts to try and give Trump all the credit for getting one hostage released who was already in a coma you neglected to answer these other questions that have a direct bearing on how successful Trump is when it comes to getting hostages released. So why don't you do that.
I'm not giving Trump the credit for getting him release. His father is.
Wow , trump relieved NK from the burden of looking after a prisoner they'd reduced to a vegetable.
(after he'd dared to try and nick a poster of supreme fat boy for a souvenir. Such a shocking crime)
supreme fat boy is vely vely pleez
cabige not good properganda
jus heap big pain in fat ass
There is a lesson to be learned in this sad event.
It isn't a very good idea to go to a country where the U.S. cannot protect you.
If you do decide to go, even knowing that you are taking a chance, you should never break the law while there.
No you are beginning to understand what I was saying in the first place.
You can bring a gun from the U.S. into Canada. You just have to do it right.
There are already guns in Canada that a person from the U.S. can use.
I am glad you have done some research on what is true and what is false.
Most people will not do the research. Thank you.
People in the U.S. who want to just buy a gun would not need to go to Canada to buy one.
It is very easy to buy one right here in the U.S.
No research, my job.
You sure changed from what you said in your first post. This is your first post.
"In Canada you have no right to have guns, bring them in & get caught and we will gladly slag them and give you room & board for 5yrs. before deporting you and making you unable to go to a lot of other countries"
This is your third post.
"If you have a valid hunting licence than you can bring in one rifle but it must be proclaimed & registered at the border with CBSA."
Notice the difference?
First says "get caught" which if you had learnt to comprehend English you would know that means you were not above board declaring your weapons.
Come on up bring your gun without our permission, but don't cry when it is seized.
Done trying to educate you boy, it is time to mosey on over to Lanie's Island.
You were wrong but like many others on here just can't stand to be proven wrong.
Better get moseying.
Extremely sad (if true)
at least the family got him back is about all that can be said.
So fat Kim bought some kudos , and avoided having a foreign young innocent clot die in his lovely prison.
Fucking nasty fat little pig.
An autopsy would/will be interesting
The young man died today.
INCINNATI (AP) — Otto Warmbier, an American college student who was released by North Korea in a coma last week after more than a year in captivity, died Monday, his family said.
The 22-year-old "has completed his journey home," the family said in a statement.
"Unfortunately, the awful, torturous mistreatment our son received at the hands of the North Koreans ensured that no other outcome was possible beyond the sad one we experienced today," his parents said.
Doctors had described his condition as a state of "unresponsive wakefulness" and said he suffered a "severe neurological injury" of unknown cause.
His father, Fred Warmbier, said last week that he believed Otto had been fighting for months to stay alive to return to his family. Their statement Monday said he had looked uncomfortable and anguished after returning June 13, but his countenance later changed.
"He was peace. He was home, and we believe he could sense that," they said.
Warmbier was convicted of subversion after he tearfully confessed that he had tried to steal a propaganda banner while visiting with a tour group from China. He was sentenced to 15 years in prison with hard labor in North Korea.
The University of Virginia student was held for more than 17 months. His family said last week they were told he had been a coma since soon after his March 2016 sentencing.
Doctors said he has suffered extensive loss of brain tissue and "profound weakness and contraction" of his muscles, arms and legs. His eyes opened and blinked, but without signs of understanding verbal commands or his surroundings.
North Korea said he went into a coma after contracting botulism and taking a sleeping pill. Doctors in Cincinnati said they found no active sign of botulism nor evidence of beatings.
His parents told The Associated Press in a statement the day of his release that they wanted "the world to know how we and our son have been brutalized and terrorized by the pariah regime " and expressed relief he had been returned to "finally be with people who love him."
Fred Warmbier praised his son's "performance" and President Donald Trump's administration. He was critical of former President Barack Obama's approach to his son's situation.
The younger Warmbier grew up in the northern Cincinnati suburb of Wyoming. He was salutatorian of his 2013 class at the highly rated high school, and was on the soccer team, among other activities.
Ohio's U.S. senators sharply criticized North Korea last week.
Republican Sen. Rob Portman said North Korea should be "universally condemned for its abhorrent behavior." Democratic Sen. Sherrod Brown said the country's "despicable actions ... must be condemned."
The Warmbiers have "had to endure more than any family should have to bear," Portman added.
Three Americans remain held in North Korea. The U.S. government accuses North Korea of using such detainees as political pawns. North Korea accuses Washington and South Korea of sending spies to overthrow its government.
At the time of Warmbier's release, a White House official said Joseph Yun, the U.S. envoy on North Korea, had met with North Korean foreign ministry representatives in Norway the previous month. Such direct consultations between the two governments are rare because they don't have formal diplomatic relations.
At the meeting, North Korea agreed that Swedish diplomats could visit all four American detainees. Yun learned about Warmbier's condition in a meeting a week before the release from the North Korean ambassador at the U.N. in New York. Yun then was dispatched to North Korea and visited Warmbier June 12 with two doctors and demanded his release on humanitarian grounds.
RIP Mr. Warmbier.
Our thoughts and prayers to your family and friends.
Here is what President Trump had to say. I'm still trying to find what Obama said, but I'm not holding my breath.
If it weren't for China, N Korea would already be one giant parking lot !!!
In light of this event, I'm curious to see how supportive China is of N. Korea now.
Are you kidding? Remember a tank running over a protester in Tiananmen Square or all the people who have disappeared without a trace not to mention all the political prisoners? I won't even go into all the people who have been imprisoned because they are Christians.
China dont care about one kid from the USA that fucked up.....
after seeing POTUS tweets yesterday, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a strong response from the US within the next few days.
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