I agree. If we look at what the two sides say they have already agreed to by the time Trump sits down with Kim about the only thing left to negotiate is the status of US troops in South Korea. And right there is Trump's Catch 22. If Trump agrees to withdraw US troops it will be the greatest gift Trump could give to North Korea, China, and even Russia but our allies South Korea, Japan, and almost all the West will see it as the biggest betrayal of them in US history. And if Trump refuses to remove troops then the peace deal is off. And it will be all Trump's fault.

But one thing for sure is North Korea, South Korea, and China (lets not forget them because China is crucial) have already proven to the world they do not need Trump and the US and can negotiate this all on their own. Which is what I think is the most likely outcome.

 

For unsupporters what happens is not nearly as important as how they can spin it to demonize trump.
Cause......trump.

 

Between Rudy Giuliani and Trump they are already in danger of blowing the North Korea negotiations before they even start. And at the same time put the family and loved ones of the Americans held in North Korea through hell. Just think about what Giuliani put them through when he said last Thursday that release of the hostages was imminent leading them to believe the hostages would be released that day. And 4 days later they have not been released and many experts say that is because of Giuliani shooting off his mouth.

And then today North Korea released this on their state run media. Or in other words the Fox News of North Korea.

North Korea says denuclearization pledge not result of US-led sanctions or pressure

*And this will be a test. Kim is daring Trump and trying to bluff him out. And since all Trump wants is a win at any cost it will probably wok.

 

Wok ? OOPS !
Thinking about being hungry, dinner, Asian issues, and a slip is bound to happen somewhere in the text. LOL

If they can't keep that egomaniac Trump's mouth shut, like Asian food, an hour later, and your hungry again, and that hour later
thing will be a need for new negotiations needed sometime in the next twenty years, that is if Trump doesn't start a war first.

 

Way to go, failing NY Times! (Insert "Nelson Haha!" <here>)


New York Times slams AWOL Pompeo, then learns he was rescuing Americans


5/9/18

As the New York Times was bashing Mike Pompeo for being missing in action while President Trump tore up the Iran nuclear deal, it turned out the secretary of state was busy rescuing three Americans who have been held captive in North Korea.

In an apparent jab at the administration, The Times’ headline said, “At a Key Moment, Trump’s Top Diplomat Is Again Thousands of Miles Away.”

The Times’ story noted that “Senior State Department officials were momentarily speechless on Tuesday when asked why Mr. Pompeo did not delay his trip by a day to be in Washington during Mr. Trump’s Iran deal announcement.”

It became clear on Wednesday morning why Pompeo didn’t delay his trip to Pyongyang when Trump took to Twitter.



“I am pleased to inform you that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is in the air and on his way back from North Korea with the 3 wonderful gentlemen that everyone is looking so forward to meeting. They seem to be in good health,” Trump wrote. “Secretary Pompeo and his ‘guests’ will be landing at Andrews Air Force Base at 2:00 A.M. in the morning. I will be there to greet them. Very exciting!”

The Times story noted that Pompeo was expected to return from his trip with the detainees in the caption of a photo accompanying the story, so it's curious why the headline attempted to paint his trip in a negative light.

The New York Times did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The story, written by Gardiner Harris, focused on Trump’s top diplomat being absent when Trump “made what could be the most significant diplomatic announcement of his presidency” by pulling out of the Iran nuclear agreement.

“The absence of Mr. Pompeo and other top State Department officials left perplexed European diplomats privately complaining that they were having trouble getting answers from Washington,” Harris wrote.

The Times story also mocked Pompeo’s plane, reporting that it “has such poor equipment that calls are often dropped midsentence.”

It turned out that Pompeo’s absence was more than justified, and any aging technology on his plane didn’t prevent him from leaving Pyongyang with three Americans that have been held captive oversees. The detaniees -- Tony Kim, Kim Hak Song and Kim Dong Chul -- are presumably thankful that Pompeo didn’t push back his trip to satisfy European diplomats

In addition to rescuing three Americans, Pompeo also helped arrange a date and location for Trump’s meeting with Kim Jong Un, according to Trump.

 

Dumocrats wanted to charge the new Secretary of State when he made a trip to North Korea before he was confirmed. Have not heard a world about the swift boat fraud kissing ass in Iran. The usual bullshit

 

Sanctions hit mark in N. Korea

5/10/18

Yesterday at 8:30 a.m. President Trump tweeted, “I am pleased to inform you that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is in the air and on his way back from North Korea with the 3 wonderful gentlemen that everyone is looking so forward to meeting. They seem to be in good health. Also, good meeting with Kim Jong Un.”

The three American prisoners are now free men and the United States and North Korea move yet closer to making real progress down the road to denuclearization of Kim Jong Un’s enigmatic country.

Of course prisoners have been released from North Korea in past years so it is fair to ask what makes this time different. On Boston Herald Radio, Harry J. Kazianis, director of defense studies at the Center for the National Interest, explained that it comes down to money. “The maximum pressure campaign ... is really strangling the North Korean economy. It’s actually so bad that the North Koreans could run out of foreign exchange reserves by either October or the end of the year,” Kazianis said. “What essentially that means is North Korea will be bankrupt and you can’t really feed your people and you can’t build a lot of ICBMs or nuclear weapons if you’re broke.”

The “maximum pressure” campaign is not an entirely new concept. As Kazianis said, “The maximum pressure campaign is a rehash — with 21st century characteristics — of the policy we used to defeat the old Soviet Union, what we use to call containment. It involves a mix of diplomatic, economic and military pressure to compel nations like North Korea and now Iran to change course. What we are saying to these bad actors is simple: If you want to be a rogue regime — build weapons of mass destruction and spread chaos — you will pay a price for it.”

The Trump administration’s commitment to the “maximum pressure” campaign in regards to North Korea has been a key to the success we are seeing. Among other things, it has resulted in effective sanctions against North Korea from their biggest and most crucial trading partner, China.

In addition, the United States has coordinated a worldwide effort to squeeze the regime with sanctions, focusing on its energy trade partners. North Korean coal cannot be purchased by the United Nation’s member states and harsh limits have been put on the volume of crude oil Kim can import.

The Trump administration has also taken aim at firms that conduct illicit trade with the North Korean regime, and fuel sanctions have resulted in skyrocketing gas prices for Pyongyang, which has had to deeply restrict military exercises and maneuvers as a result.

We’ll see where talks go between the two leaders, but we should be pleased that the president has stuck to his guns and brought us to this point.

 

As soon as Trump agreed to a summit with Kim Jong Un foreign policy experts warned it was a very rash move that might play into North Korea's hands and backfire on Trump. And then about two weeks ago experts started trying to sound the alarm that the talk of a Nobel Prize and Trump wanting a win was even more hazardous because Kim Jong Un would see that desperation and be able to use it against Trump. And now it appears they are right.

North Korea suspends talks with South, warns on Trump-Kim summit

It appears Kim Jong Un has been playing a cat and mouse game with Trump. Or maybe more like a cat and a crazy old shit house rat.

 

Well, it's clear the unsupporters fell for the simple minded diplomatic tricks from the north koreans.
You know, cause ......... trump.

Good thing the pompous has bag isn't as gullible. Or blinded by hate

 

Where did you guys ever get the idea North Korea was going to denuclearize?

 

From Trump.
Try to keep up....

 

So John Bolton goes on TV last Sunday and says Trump is pursuing the "Libya model" for denuclearizing North Korea. And foreign policy and North Korean experts all over the world started banging their heads on their desks screaming you fucking idiot. Because what is the Libyan model? The world coaxed Muammar Gaddafi into giving up his nuclear weapons and then once he was disarmed the US helped overthrow him and he ends up getting sodomized by his own people before they shot him in the back of the head. And any idiot, other than the Idiot In Chief and the idiots he surrounds himself with, can easily see most all world leaders, and especially dictators would like to avoid that fate.

North Korea Blames John Bolton’s ‘Libya Model’ For Threatening Summit With Trump

And this was a very painful moment for the foreign policy and North Korean experts because their foreheads were already bruised and bloodied from banging their heads on their desks over all the stupid talk and cheering about Trump winning the Nobel prize before he even sat down with Kim Jong Un. Because that told them the only thing Trump really cared about is winning a prize and they knew right then they could manipulate Trump and just fuck with him. And they are.

Which was the same with all the stupid bullshit comeing out of Trump and his enablers that North Korea was going to "denuclearize." Which they pointed out considering Libya and Iraq only an idiot would believe and Trump is that idiot.

 

From the fictional story "Lest ye be Judged." Naturally, this would never happen.

...Though the Mad Clown was proven time and again to be corrupt, to have lied and been guilty of a number of illegalities, nothing ever came of it until Sammy Jenkins submitted his 8th grade creative writing assignment.

Tasked with writing a short paper wherein a historical event was to be discussed, then applying an opposing outcome; Sammy instead posed an alternative history from the beginning, failing to follow the very specific assignment. Only receiving a C+ for his effort, regardless his paper posted on the internet as he sought sympathy went viral, and mere days later, America went black.

Sammy posed that the greatest ideological, military and political tactic ever devised and executed, was that of the former Soviet Union, ‘Red’ China and all other communist bloc nations, designated simply; the "50-year plan."

Having noted the ever increasing gap between East and West regarding all issues; military might, geopolitical influence, financial resources, technology, industrial and agricultural advancements, etc.; select individuals within the various communist inner-parties developed an infallible plan, or so they believed. Few were made aware of the plan in that efforts to defeat the West had to seem sincere to insure the ruse.

Initiated in 1969, Stage-1 began with what was known as the "20-year plan." Essentially, it would be business as usual, East vs. West much as history played out. The only exception to that being, along with typical day to day espionage activities, a number of sleepers and moles were placed for Western recruitment slated to be utilized in Stage-3.

Tasked with finding and ultimately grooming potentially sympathetic or simply corrupt individuals, of the thousands of active agents, only a few ever yielded up any candidates of consequence. Two women, both ultimately working the same man, fostered a relationship that was exactly what the party had hoped for, or so they thought.

Stage-2 was the "3-year plan." Once again, the historical record is accurate, filled with hard fought for minor wins to appear legitimate, overshadowed by significant losses, expenditures and espionage; the path intentionally leading to collapse.

Government coffers were depleted, the governments themselves organized internal revolts against themselves, desire for change was voiced, all that and more culminating with the singular act to insure their victory of the Cold War. Surrender. We give up, you win, you were right, we were wrong, please help us. So, the West being good winners did exactly that.

Thus began Stage-3, or the "3x9 to Victory" to play out in three 9-year stages over 27-years.

Stage-3:1-9 would find the participating nations fracturing up, their governments, economies, societies and citizens in chaos struggling. It also meant freedoms for the citizenry like they had never known, however, also the responsibility and difficulties of being self-reliant. It was only natural that many would emigrate to stable Western nations to supposedly do just that.

During that stage, there were only two primary goals. That a number of the various immigrants establish themselves in Western nations, legitimate or criminal of no matter, and establish means of revenue generation. The second goal was for the individual Eastern Bloc governments to repair relations with the West, to rebuild their own credibility as an equal international policy voting voice.

The less obvious aspect performed more discreetly than any other, was the agitation and encouragement of chaos throughout the world. Individuals would be manipulated into deepening their resentment of the West, ultimately finding inspiration to act against the citizens of those nations. The goal was simple. To inspire such fear in the Western citizenry that they would gladly sacrifice their freedoms for security. In doing so, the result was much like driving animals into a killing zone.

The payoff being, when the final stage would be enacted, as many individuals as possible would be affected and influenced. More so, it then made their own societies more like the previously oppressive communist nations. When the ideological shift would occur, the leap from one system to the other would be minimal, accepted, and embraced.

Stage-3:2-9 was to be solely utilized for technological procurement, advancement, and revenue generation. As significant portion of those efforts focused upon shifting manufacturing from Western nations to those East, more so shifting the West’s buying of goods and services. To insure that shift, Eastern nations would initially open their borders to Western manufacturing, and procure the vast majority of their raw materials from the West to make the trade shift seem equitable.

With a seeming open door in their nations regarding manufacturing, cheap labor abundant and made even less expensive than their third-world counterparts, the manufacturing and monetary shift was palpable. Along with that came vast technological advancements. Trade secrets were intentionally leaked and infringed upon, electronics and software development of particular interest.

One final aspect of this stage was to insure dramatic financial swings. During this time with their newfound wealth, investments would be made in the West in both private and government arenas. Ultimately, buying up vast swaths of the West be it loans, lands, businesses, or competing entities.

Stage-3:3-9 was when the last 41-years of effort would all come to fruition. Racial and religious hatreds would be peaked, though less internally than on an international level. In fact, for a short period beyond their control, internally views shifted dramatically toward harmony. So the old guard’s hates and bias was then targeted and encouraged.

Propaganda and disinformation now generated by seemingly Western based individuals and entities would run rampant. Secrets of the Western governments would be exposed, and after years of chaos in the form of religious fanaticism, the Western citizenry would simply be wore down, more willing than ever to embrace religious, nationalistic, racial and cultural hates and bigotry.

Elections the world over would be influenced, and if unable to place their own now influenced puppets in seats of power, they would instill those corrupt. The plan worked flawlessly, mostly regarding the core of Western leadership in all aspects. The United States.

Placing their people in the various seats of power, round the globe long standing Western governments and their relations with others would be dismantled. In the U.S. one could easily see all aspects of the government, the nation and the values they held dear immediately and irrevocably picked apart, tore down and discarded. Within one year between 2017-2018, a century’s worth of advancements and protections were eliminated.

As those puppets would encounter the expected backlash, safeguards were put in place to help them bide their time until their work was done. Unfortunately, the Mad Clown being the braggart he was had a difficult time playing his part. One day he would be friends with this government in the East, the next day not. It was all a ruse naturally, just simply not as discreet as the East would have liked.

To that end, chaos ensued within Western governments as the custodian of that system tried to destroy it. It was one of those safeguards noted in Sammy’s homework that was the kicker.

Sammy predicted that along with other minor conflicts and miraculous resolutions, one above all others would be utilized to insure finalization of the 50-Year Plan.

The barking small dog of North Korea would finally grow teeth. Out of nowhere, their rocket and nuclear weapons programs would advance by leaps and bounds virtually overnight. As fear would spread among the weakest of citizens, strengthened by digital efforts in the form of propaganda and warnings, the Mad Clown would act, or more truthfully, over-act.

He would froth and threaten placing all nations on edge fearing an ultimate showdown round the world, as sabers rattled from every corner and out of every nation. Then just like that, North Korea would surrender, just like their communist cousins had so many years ago.

The Western nations would celebrate the Mad Clown, finally putting to rest old grudges, and with that, the East would have the time they needed to reach 2019. Now it would be the West’s turn to surrender given no other options on virtually every front. We give up, you win, you were right, we were wrong, please help us. So, the East being good winners, would do exactly that.

Unfortunately... The Mad Clown panicked. And so... Four days after Sammy’s paper was posted on the Internet, naturally debate ensuing, the United States went "Black."

The rest, is simply non-history.

Hush....an alias

 

Trump is so desperate he will promise Kim Jong Un anything if he will just hold a meeting with him.

Trump promises North Korea’s Kim Jong Un can stay in power

 

The libtard left has such a short memory....

 

Trump cancels North Korea summit by boasting about ‘massive and powerful’ nuclear arsenal

 

"Kim's open hostility towards Americans...."

Kim will learn that there's only one person that's allowed to be hostile towards Americans, and that's donnie himself.

 

And the rudimentary right has a love of fake news...

 

One of the side notes to all this is that Rudy Giuliani has been claiming Trump can't sit down with Mueller because he has to prepare for the North Korean Summit. And that excuse just flew out the window.