i guess Trump should now call his belovcd Fox News a "FAKE NEWS" for reporting this news. rofl

Special counsel is investigating President Trump for obstruction of justice, new report says
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you can find full article by Fox News here

 

@stumbler @AyaLaRoux
at last he is in the eyes of law.

@msman @ace's n 8's @clarise
your beloved President is now at whims of this man. hehehe

 

FOX News is the devil and this should be in the Mythology thread lol.

Not for the story but for FOX itself ...

 

Ewww, Special Counsel....is that like "double secret probation" in the movie "Animal House"....

I'm sure Trump can send anyone who wishes a stool sample...investigate to their heart's content. More nothing...next.

 

Don't kid yourself CS, their future is so bright they have to wear shades lol. Don't forget to add RK to that motley crew.

Or is that blinders ???

 

I know I shouldn't but I have to agree with you that they are throwing an awful lot of slow "underhanders" over the plate ...

They are playing the percentages and hope eventually something sticks.

 

At last, Trumpo is in the eyes of the law?

Where the fuck have you been?

 

Cassandra, isn't there a moving train you should go play in front of?

 

This is actually a really big deal. One thing to come out of a couple congressional hearings in the past week or so was all the president's men, including Jeff Sessions yesterday were stonewalling congress if Trump or anyone in his administration talked to them about dropping the Flynn investigation or talked to them about publicly stating Trump was not personally under investigation. And they got really creative about it. They insisted Trump had not invoked Executive Privilege but then went on to say they just weren't going to talk about any conversations they had with Trump even though they had no legal justification. Which tells us something right there. If Trump had not talked to them about dropping investigations or defending him in public it would have been a very simple thing to just come out and say that. But they couldn't because they were testifying under oath. And that bullshit gave the members of the committee a bipartisan case of the red ass but there is not much they could do about it.

But that bullshit won't work when the Special Counsel hauls there asses in. He is going to ask them those questions and they will have to answer and lying about it is a felony with prison time. So they are going to talk.

And here's another hint. I can't look it up right now but the last guy the Special Counsel hired specializes in criminal obstruction of justice and is widely reported to be one of the best in the country.

 

Mueller is bringing in lot of people relevant to Trump case including Comey and Sessions. i also have heard that Mueller is going to bring Trump's daughter in as well.

 

Special prosecutor Mueller is seeking to intervies three members of the intelligence service who car corroborate Comey's testimony that the chump try to get them to persuade Comey to back off the intestigation into Flynn which makes that obstruction of justice.

Full story right here.......happy reading suckers!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...truction-of-justice-investigation-fbi-Mueller

Thinskin

 

And as I said in a couple places earlier this is pretty bad. All the president's men managed to stonewall congress on these questions and got away with it. But they can't stonewall Mueller. They sit them down and start asking them questions and they have to answer. And trying to lie to them is a felony with prison time.

 

it probably will end with no President and Vice President in the office. mostly likely that here will be lot of fights about who will be the new President than Pence.

 

That is a bit of a worry because from what I have read..........Pence makes Attila the Hun look like a charity shop worker!

Thinskin

 

Robert Mueller should recuse himself from Russia investigation

6/14/17

Former FBI director is too close to his successor, James Comey, to be impartial.


Robert Mueller is a man of integrity with a long record of public service. In the abstract, he would be the right selection as special counsel in the Russia investigation. Under the specific circumstances of this case, however, with his longtime friend James Comey at the center of the inquiry, Mueller's the wrong choice. The public cannot be as sure as it needs to be of his objectivity.

This is true for reasons similar to those that prompted Attorney General Jeff Sessions to recuse himself from the same investigation. Sessions testified Tuesday that he felt he had no proper choice because he had a potential political conflict of interest, having been a campaign adviser to President Trump. Mueller should likewise step away because he has a potential personal conflict of interest, having been a longtime friend of a crucial witness, Comey, and Comey's key ally at the most important moment of his career.

I met Mueller only once, when he was assistant attorney general for the criminal division. From what I know of his reputation, he's an honest, no-nonsense, effective prosecutor.

Under the present circumstances, however, and not without regret, I believe that the same ethics rules the attorney general cited in his Tuesday testimony counsel against Mueller's continuing to serve in the role assigned to him.

28 USC Section 528 provides:

The Attorney General shall promulgate rules and regulations which require the disqualification of any officer or employee of the Department of Justice, including a United States attorney or a member of such attorney's staff, from participation in a particular investigation or prosecution if such participation may result in a personal, financial, or political conflict of interest, or the appearance thereof. Such rules and regulations may provide that a willful violation of any provision thereof shall result in removal from office.
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28 CFR Section 45.2 provides in part:

Disqualification arising from personal or political relationship.
(a) Unless authorized under paragraph (b) of this section, no employee shall participate in a criminal investigation or prosecution if he has a personal or political relationship with:
(1) Any person or organization substantially involved in the conduct that is the subject of the investigation or prosecution; or
(2) Any person or organization which he knows has a specific and substantial interest that would be directly affected by the outcome of the investigation or prosecution ...

(c) For the purposes of this section:
(2) Personal relationship means a close and substantial connection of the type normally viewed as likely to induce partiality. ... Whether relationships (including friendships) of an employee to other persons (outside his or her family) or organizations are "personal" must be judged on an individual basis with due regard given to the subjective opinion of the employee.
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Comey and Mueller have been friends for nearly 15 years. They were partners in the episode that defined Comey's professional persona more than any other in his public service. It would be surprising if it had not also forged a permanent bond with Mueller.

It was Comey, as deputy attorney general, and Mueller, then head of the FBI, who together confronted White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales in the hospital room of then-seriously ill Attorney General John Ashcroft in a successful attempt to block the White House from implementing a surveillance protocol that Gonzales and, tentatively, President George W. Bush favored.

The protocol was temporarily halted. Comey, shortly thereafter, talked with Bush at the White House and, in what must have been an intense meeting, persuaded him not to go forward with it. It was one of the most dramatic and telling episodes in the first part of the Bush administration. In essence, in the early stages of a still-shocked nation's response to the 9/11 attacks, Comey and Mueller stood arm-in-arm at the Pass at Thermopylae.

Comey now finds himself at the center of the Russian investigation over which Mueller presides. Questions swirl around Comey — about whether the president wanted/hinted/hoped/asked/directed/or something else the investigation of former national security adviser Michael Flynn to be stopped/abandoned/slowed/soft-peddled/something else. This is probably the central element of the obstruction of justice case that Trump's opponents would like to see made against him.

Questions also swirl about Comey's notes about this conversation and why he gave them to a private individual (professor Dan Richman of Columbia Law) to convey to journalists. Additional questions have arisen about whether this curious and seemingly devious means of putting the contents of the notes in the public domain (leaking, in other words) was designed specifically to bring about the appointment of a special counsel outside the president's direct reach — and, indeed, whether Comey wanted, expected or intended his friend Mueller to get the job.

There is much to be said for all this, none of it happy-making. One thing that can be said with clarity is that, under the ethics rules cited by Sessions, Mueller has a long-term relationship with Comey that "may result in a personal ... conflict of interest, or the appearance thereof."

Mueller is therefore disqualified. I hope and suspect that Mueller, whom I believe to be a partisan of the rule of law, will see this. If he doesn't, I hope Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein will.

Experienced attorneys prefer rule-orientation and properly fear self-justification, a ubiquitous flaw in even the best of men. There is no way Comey is anything but a central witness in this investigation — if not a subject. Even less is there a way Mueller can be expected to evaluate Comey's credibility with the fresh neutrality, arm's-length curiosity, and objective sharp eye his job demands.

William G. Otis is an adjunct professor at Georgetown University Law Center, and a former federal prosecutor.

 

So, they'll be able to corroborate that the head of the Executive Branch made a comment to the head of the FBI, which is an agency under the Executive Branch purview and, even though Comey already testified that Trump said "he hoped" Comey could back off, he could have just ordered him to back off, asserting Executive Privelege...just like Obama did when he cut off the Fast & Furious investigation to save Holder's ass, by impounding documents.

May 3, 2011 - Attorney General Eric Holder testifies for the first time before the House Judiciary Committee that he had first heard of Operation Fast and Furious only over the past few weeks.

October 2011 - Investigators uncover memos indicating Attorney General Holder had known about Operation Fast and Furious for close to a year, not a few weeks as he had stated in May 2011.

June 12, 2012 - Attorney General Holder testifies before the US Senate Committee on the Judiciary, and rejects calls for his resignation.

June 20, 2012 - The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee recommends that Attorney General Holder be cited for contempt of Congress for failing to turn over documents relating to the Fast and Furious operation.

June 20, 2012 - President Barack Obama asserts executive privilege over the documents sought by the investigating committee. This prevents future prosecution of Holder.

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Hmmm...I can't remember the name of the special counsel that was hired by the Obama Justice Department to investigate his "obstruction of justice" actions. Anyone recall?

 

I find it interesting and disturbing how a mentally unstable attention whore posts yet another inflammatory anti Trump thread on the very day that one of her fellow anti Trump supporters guns down Republicans and US Capital police. Meanwhile, while the Democratic Party is calling for unity, the left wing supporters are continuing to jump on his thread to spew their own hatred.

My suggestion would be to starve the cancer aka CassandraSaturn of the attention he is desperately seeking.

 

That is exactly what Sessions said.........over and over again!

Thinskin

 

There is a very definite chain of command as to who would take office if both President and Vice President were incapacitated. It would fall to Paul Ryan and then to Orrin Hatch. If they can't serve, it then falls to the cabinet members, beginning with Tillerson.