1. imported__2355

    imported__2355 Porn Star

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    Dude.
    Clinton was impeached, or did you forget the whole Ken Starr investigation thingy?
    $20 million taxpayer bucks blown on that one and the House and Senate decided he had lied about getting a blow job but it wasn't worth throwing him out of office. No one forced Monica to suck his dick and a blow job while on the job isn't a high crime or even a misdemeanor. It's not against the law the get your dick sucked in the Oval Office. Or at least it wasn't during the mid '90s.
    But sexual contact between a 30 year old and a 14 year old was and still is. Even in Alabama.
     
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    1. Distant Lover
      I think it was fifty million dollars.
       
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  2. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    There is quite a bit of evidence that Clinton spends time on that plane full of under age girls. I think the name of the plane is the .
    Maybe the master of facts could tell us about it.

    - msman

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    From a quick look on the internet I found no evidence that there were underage girls on that plane. Have you found any?
     
    1. imported__2355
      There are flight logs showing Clinton was on the plane, usually with an entourage of Secret Service agents, sometimes not. No logs show him on the plane during trips to Epstien's notorious island, and no other records show him being there. Also no people who were children at the time have said Clinton raped them. One woman says she saw Clinton once. Note also that Clinton wasn't the only public figure known to be seen with Epstien. The Trumpster was seen in his company often as well. Does that infer Donny was diddling little girls? No. Not at all. Nor does any of it prove Clinton was. Epstein is scum. Clinton and the Trumpster both knew him. End of that story. Moving on....
       
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    2. msman
      You are a failure as a master of facts.
      Did you look at who owned the plane and what he had been convicted of doing?
      Why do you think the plane was called the Lolita?
      You need to do some work on your search abilities if you want to remain the master of facts.
       
      msman, Nov 14, 2017
    3. imported__2355
      Of course I looked at who owned the plane and at what he was both convicted and accused of. I know what 'Lolita' refers to. I could also mention that Clinton was never on the plane while in office or before that. He wasn't and isn't and won't be the President or hold any other public office. Trump is the President and was an associate of Epstien before that. Is he implicated in Epstien's behavior? You missed your shot at Bill Clinton in 1998. Give it a rest.
       
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  3. CS natureboy

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    There is no "evidence" Roy Moore ever touched or spent any time around young girls.

    Yet he has already been convicted in the eyes of liberal Democrats....

    Why should it be any different with Bill Clinton?
     
  4. Bron Zeage

    Bron Zeage I am a river to my people

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    Maybe there should have been some kind of investigation of Bill Clinton, followed by consideration by the Congress. That would certainly brought out all the facts and settled matters. Then people couldn't say Clinton got by on a pass and make lame excuses for the candidates and office holders in the following years.

    As it is, Roy '10 Commandments' Moore is a dumpster fire and no one wants to get close, because they don't know what's still in the dumpster, just waiting for enough heat to explode.

    We see a lot of people saying the statute of limitations for what Moore never did, have expired, and others calling these women liars, and even people smashing coffee pots over this. What we don't see is people who knew Roy Moore back in the day, coming to his defense. When it comes to questions of character, the only way it can be validated is by the opinion of those who have known you, and worked with you.

    Moore needs a little help from his friends and they aren't talking.
     
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  5. imported__2355

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    The one thing in Moore's favor is that there doesn't seem to be any record of his wrongdoing at the time in question. This may change if someone digs up the complaint record that got him banned from the Gadsden Mall. There would have been something on file to protect the Mall from liability in case Moore got manhandled by a security guard for trespass. Otherwise he would have been within his rights to sue them.
    If I were Moore I would want any such record to go away. If I were a member of the GOP I would be pretty sure it is about to drop on the front page of the New York Times. If I were a reporter I would be digging for it like crazy. If I were a member of the Democratic party I'd be roasting marshmallows over Moore's dumpster fire.
    Since I'm an Indie I'll just enjoy the mayhem.
     
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  6. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    There was. It was called "the Starr Investigation." It lasted five years and cost fifty million dollars. After rummaging in the White House garbage cans and peeping in the windows of the Oval office all that sanctimonious bore had on Bill was a lie in a response to a question Starr asked himself, hoping that Clinton would lie.

    Larry Flynt proved that many of the Republicans who went after Clinton on this were guilty of sinful misdeeds themselves.

    Fortunately, most Americans were too mature to get upset about Bill's consensual affair with a woman past the age of consent. Clinton's approval rating went up during this time. :p
     
    1. msman
      Again, you do not seem to be able to do a simple search.
      If you could do a search you would see all of the things that Clinton was guilty of doing.
      Tight now you only know what other people tell you.
      If you cannot complete a simple search there is a book on the Starr Report.
      It is named The Starr Report. 473 pages long. It lists all of the things Starr found and proved.
      Other people know this but the master of facts does not .
      Have you turned in your master of facts decoder ring yet?
       
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    2. imported__2355
      The Start Report came out after the impeachment concluded that there was nothing in it approaching a high crime or misdemeanor. It was just a giant black hole the House poured millions of dollars into for a political hit piece. Clinton has been accused of everything from having bad taste in cars to drug smuggling to rape and murder. In more than 40 years of tilting at that windmill no one on the right has ever come up with anything they could actually produce as evidence of a crime. Bad judgement, questionable associates, happenstance, innuendo and a few extramarital affairs is the full extent of what has been proven against him. Clinton is old news and you are sounding more and more desperate trying to drag him into the Roy Moore mess when everything said about him could be said of Trump. And more about Trump can be proven. Remember what happened to the Newtster? Remember Guliani? Remember Bill Frisch? Remember Tom DeLay? How much do you want to go into any of that mess?
       
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  7. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    Trump has been charged with raping a 13 year old girl. There is an eye witness. She dropped the charges, claiming that Trump promised to kill her family otherwise.

    I hope this matter with Roy Moore encourages her to go public with her charges. We know that Trump has bragged about his ability to grope women and get away with it.

    When he owned the Miss Teenage Beauty Pagent he would barge into the dressing room when some of the girls were naked and say, "Don't worry ladies. I've seen it all before."

    I'm sure he has.
     
    1. imported__2355
      It was an allegation. No criminal charge was filed.
       
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    2. Distant Lover
      No criminal charges have been filed against Roy Moore. What matters is with Trump and Moore is whether the charges seem plausible.
       
      Distant Lover, Nov 14, 2017
    3. imported__2355
      Just making the point.
       
      imported__2355, Nov 14, 2017
  8. anon_de_plume

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    And for all the investigating, there have been no legal charges filed/evidence. Is that not the cry of those that defend people on the right? The standard of Trump defenders of his "grabbing pussy" is to attack the victims.
     
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  9. CS natureboy

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    No, that's the Clinton's MO....
     
    1. anon_de_plume
      Does not matter who else does it, just look at all the republicans who have been accused of these things. Everyone defends them. Strange though that the national republicans are not spring Moore... But no issue, there are plenty of others that defend him...
       
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  10. CS natureboy

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    You are lying again... Donald Trump has never been charged with any criminal offence...

    Prove your assertions or admit you are lying...
     
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      Neither has Hillary Clinton
       
      NoOneFamous, Nov 15, 2017
  11. thinskin

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    Neither is there any evidence to exonerate the Chump...........repeating allegations is not lying it is speculating!!

    FFS you speculate enough!:rolleyes:

    Thinskin
     
  12. msman

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    The thing is a person does not have to exonerate themselves. People need to have proof, allegations is just a nicer word for gossip.
     
  13. Distant Lover

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    Lawsuit Charges Donald Trump with Raping a 13-Year-Old Girl
    A civil suit against Donald Trump alleging he raped a 13-year-old girl was dismissed in California in May 2016, refiled in New York in June 2016, and dropped again in November 2016.

    The first major scandal to hit the Trump campaign besides the typical “what a racist, such a sexist, yada yada yada,” came from a lawsuit stemming from the infamous sex parties held by billionaire and known pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. The woman named in the suit is Katie Johnson, who says Trump took her virginity in 1994 when she was only 13 and being held by Epstein as a slave.

    Johnson says in the complaint that Trump and Epstein threatened her and her family with bodily harm if she didn’t comply with all of their disgusting demands.

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    I hope she comes forward again. I hope this ruins Trump's presidency, and causes serious damgage to the Republican Party, the alt-right, and what remains of the Tea Party.
     
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      She will not come forward again. She has about as much credibility as Stumbler. Shooter can appreciate your dislike of all things Republican, but really, would you want the party to fall because of fake accusations like these?

      Be careful what you wish for..........
       
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  14. shootersa

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    Lets consider testimony taken today in a hearing to consider increasing the rules for Congress when it comes to their own members sexual misconduct.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/14/politics/house-sexual-harassment-hearing/index.html

    We can all recall the well liked Kennedy presidency, and how it turned out that the President himself was having some extra marital activities that might have accounted for the death of Marilyn Monroe. At the time, the press had unwritten rules about exposing that kind of thing, so we never heard about what likely would have brought down the Kennedy administration.

    And then we have Roosevelt, one of our most beloved Presidents, who it turned out, was married to a lesbian and himself diddled a bit with the staff......how long would he have lasted if that had come out? One must remember, this was the 1940's, well before the sexual revolution.

    The point is, our politicians have been hopping from bed to bed for many generations, and in some cases probably even engaging in some grossly illegal activities, including pedophilia, rape, murder, and even (gasp) infidelity.

    The revolution is considering adding (eventually) a morals clause to their agenda. It's one thing to run off all the robbers, but one must ask just how successful one has been if what's left are sexual perverts to run things.
     
  15. CS natureboy

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    So, you either don't know the difference between criminal charges and a civil lawsuit or you are a liar....

    Which one is it Distant Lover?????
     
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      Or that dropped Charges are no longer charges? The don't qualify as charges anymore.

      The boy's dumber'n a stump.
       
      conroe4, Nov 14, 2017
  16. shootersa

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    Much has been made of the fact that Moore's accusers are charging that over 40 years ago, he did bad things, but they haven't seen reason to come forward until now, when he's ahead in a political race.

    Shooter has some thoughts about that.

    Shooter's daughter was drugged, kidnapped and raped by two animals when she was 19. She knew them because they went to the same school. She refused to report the crimes to the police. She said she couldn't prove what happened, even though she had gone to the hospital and the hospital documented strong evidence of forced sexual activity. She was also embarrassed, and did not want what happened to become public. Shooter spent many hours talking with his daughter, to understand what happened, why she didn't want to report it, and the depth of the wounds she had (still has). He even tried to report the crimes himself, but the authorities refused to investigate since she was an adult, and prosecution would be impossible without her cooperation.

    The crime(s) were never officially reported. However, the two vermin did not get away with what they did. As it turned out, Shooter's daughter was not their first victim, but she was their last.

    Which leads to the real question Shooter has;
    How is it that these sexual predators, be they Trump, Moore, Weinstein, Weiner, or whoever, continue over many years to get away with their victimization?
    Some, if not all of these victims have families and friends. Families and friends who would happily take matters into their own hands.

    In any case, while it does raise interesting questions about the timing of these allegations coming out, questions that need to be answered, it does not mitigate the allegations themselves. Shooter can understand why they were not reported before this.

    He points out that the only reason these allegations are being made now must be politically motivated. That isn't a bad thing, necessarily, but it must be acknowledged.
     
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    1. imported__2355
      Perhaps as Moore is no longer protected by his office as assistant district attorney or by being a supreme court judge but is still a high profile politician appearing nightly on the televisions of these women they became fed up seeing him and decided it was time to kick him in the balls. Just a thought.

      And tell your daughter not every guy out there is like that. Some would even do her balls kicking for her, given the chance.
       
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    2. shootersa
      Oh, shes' doing just fine. She knows not every guy is like that; all she has to do is remember who her dad is...............:smuggrin:
      And she doesn't need any big hemale types to kick ass (or balls) for her. She's fully capable of doing that herself. She is now anyway.
       
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  17. stumbler

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    She said he said. She said he said. She said he said. She said he said.

    She said. and he signed my yearbook and it even mentions Old Hickory.

    Opps! FORGERY FORGERY FORGERY!!!!!