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  1. chunky

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    Do you think that the standing-down of Donald Rumsfeld heralds a drastic change of policy toward Iraq?
     
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  2. stumbler

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    I'm not sure we will see much of a difference until the new congress forces Bush's hand by either setting a timetable for withdrawal, cutting off funds for the war or some other tactic designed to rein him in.
     
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  3. Empress Lainie

    Empress Lainie Ascended Ancient<br>Unexpected Woman In XNXX Heaven

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    Well, Chunky, I can't read minds (if any in DC actually have them) so my opinion doesn't count for much. But with the media circus and some democratss
    statements, I am really afraid that Iraq is going to
    become the base for a world war of muslims (extremists
    at first, then as their propaganda increases, and with a few victories, probably all muslims) against
    the entire civilized world, including China and Japan.
    A truly sorry future. But Osama Bin Laden was right, the Americans led by the Liberal Democratic Left will not fight them, until it is too late.

    And, my friend, what of the removal of Tony Blair, as PM, that likely bodes no better for civilization.

    Just look at Afghanistan under the Taliban, no music, no TV no soccer, no anything but you better do as we HOLY MEN SAY, OR ELSE: Public dismemberment every
    weekend, as sport (replacing football, or soccer?)

    These HOLY MEN aren't as holy as me, they solely want
    power over everyone, and to live the way it was in
    the 6th century, (except for motorcycles and cars, and of course the most modern armament.)

    The fiction of the paradise the suicide bombers will enjoy was begun by SALADIN to recruit his army. He
    drugged them, when they woke up they were in the valley he made to look like that paradise, with everything, including girls. Then they were drugged, taken back outside, and told that they had been to paradise and when they died that would be their life.

    (NB Im really getting pissed off at this keyboard, Im
    an excellent typist and it keeps doing things I dont
    type, also the posted things dont always match what I typed either.)
     
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  4. Kimiko

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    Not really, but I think it signals an attempt by the Bush Administration to distance itself from the past and perhaps forge more of a bipartisan strategy. I thought it was weird, though, that on his way out, Rumsfeld was still spouting the same old stuff about how history will vindicate both he and George, and that the rest of us just don't understand that we're in a new kind of war yadda yadda yadda. This from a guy who has been wrong more often and more consistently than any cabinet member has EVER been wrong.

    My money is on some sort of partition of Iraq, with a big American military presence in a newly-autonomous Kurdistan.
     
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  5. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Sex Machine

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    First, the paradise for those who die in battle against the infidel is part of Quran, the words of Mohammed. Second that story about the faked paradise was spread about the Assassins (Hashishin, Hashish {marijuana} eaters) not about Saladin. Since the Assassins were (and still are, depending on how you define the relationship between the Assassins and the Ismalis) a highly secretive sect there's no way of knowing if it was true or not. Personally, I doubt it, there's never been a shortage of suicidal fanatics in any religion.
     
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  6. Thandrend

    Thandrend Hammer of the Gods

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    Where are you coming up with that? Under a liberal democratic left wing president we pushed back Nazi Germans, Fascist Italians and the Imperial Japanese. Democrats tend to be fighters, but with really good cause. If forced into a fight, we can handle the Moslem people. They are too un-unified to be able to take a cooperative alliance.
    Most of our soldier presidents have been Democrats. Or the equivilent to. Except George Washington who had no party.
     
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  7. Caffeine

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    Yeah. I'm going to have to step in here and point out that "liberal" didn't mean "pussy" until the last decade or so. And "conservative" didn't mean "churchie" either. Modern politics is so fucked up and full of stereotypical preconceptions that it makes my head spin.
     
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  8. stumbler

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    You can thank high priced spin-doctors for that.
     
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  9. Thandrend

    Thandrend Hammer of the Gods

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    Yeah. :/
     
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  10. ThornyRose

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    I feel that it will make very little difference,, but it will be an excuse for changes... I do expect that there will be less emphesis on guns and more on building the infrastructure....It has been voiced by several high ranking democrats that they will be very active with the oversite and investigation, especially on contractors for water and power..
    There is an important planning meeding over the weekend, so look for some clues on were the new leaders plan to go..
     
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  11. Thandrend

    Thandrend Hammer of the Gods

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    I'm glad. But I doubt it will change any policy we have to Iraq until the Democrats take the Executive branch as well.
     
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  12. Rockprincess

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    All Rumsfeld is a sacrificial goat thrown to the voters as the reason for the mess in Iraq. Bush had to do something after the election so he threw his buddy, Rumsfeld, to the voters. He thinks we are dumb enough to except that as the problem. we all know Bush is the biggest problem of all...
     
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  13. cirdellin

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    Yes I think his standing down really did mark a shift of American policy in Iraq but the two successive administrations after Bush probably marked a larger one.
     
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