Why, as a society, do we feel the need to label a person as gay/sr8t/trans/LGBTQ (not really sure what the Q is actually)... Or how many other labels that I am not aware of.

I consider myself a conservative man (who happens to be white, yeah I know I should be ashamed of that fact)... I would not say Republican because I do not agree with a good portion of what this new GOP stands for... That said I do agree with alot of it (ain't a damn person on this rock we call Earth gonna take my guns away from me). I can not recall ever voting for a Democrat in my life.. But I have not voted in a particular election for either candidate because they both sucked.

In my 20's I spent a good deal of time hanging out a clubs and bars.. growing up in L.A. that was an easy thing to do. I met a girl.. and after a few dates I had her back at my place getting ready to seal the deal so to speak.. Imagine my surprise once I get her naked and she turns around and I see a little limp cock hanging there. Well that didn't stop me.. I can't blame it on the alcohol either because the next morning, perfectly sober, i did her a few more times. I really had no idea she was trans... We had about a 6 month relationship that mainly consisted of hot sex.. I did not suck her off nor did she ask me too. She never fucked my ass. I would gladly jack her off while doing her though. Does this make me gay? or just a man that appreciates beauty. She was.. and still is stunning. When I make it back out west from time to time to see family I always make it a point to see if we can get together.. sometimes it works out.. sometimes not..

Now in my 50's there are a couple local guys that I can call that will gladly come right over and service me.. Both a are married and say their wives are unaware they like to suck dick. Now with these guys I have no desire to screw them.. a naked hairy mans ass does nothing for me sexually... but a slim sweet smelling hairless tranny ass gets me hard as steel... Sex with women is still my preferred way... but i am not exclusive on that. So does this make me Bi?

Any thoughts?

 

You can label yourself however you like. Not sure what you're politics have to do with that. If anything, heteroflexible might fit you better than bi.

 

Well I think if you want to discuss politics you should head over to GD. If you want to discuss sexual lables you might have come to the right place.

People are comfortable putting other people into boxes, quite simple. Saying someone is gay means you can place them on that square over there, a bit like lining up your chess pieces, the Rook doesnt sit where the Knight should be and mixing the shit up pisses folk off ( except for me, because I like stirring things up )

Ive gone through Identifying as straight to being openly Bi Sexual to identifying as Lesbian. At this point I dont much care how anyone views me, I know I like woman and I am in love ( very much so ) with my female partner which in reality makes me a perspon who has found love and nothing more.

If that doesnt square with how the rest of society thinks it should be squared, then fuck Em..

I think you need to stop thinking in terms of any particular sexual act being more or less one thing or the other. Fucking a guy is fucking a guy and trying to pretend it is less 'gay' because you didnt suck his cock is just you living in denial.

If you are enjoying sex with someone you are enjoying sex with someone and leave the pigeon holing for those who lack imagination.

 

Horny and not horny yet are the only labels you need!

Thinskin

 

I try to avoid labels like that. I think so many of us are more fluid than just fitting into one.

 

Just don’t call me late for dinner ..!

 

Good for you,, if that's what you like,, what does it matter to anybody else,, this world would be a very boring place if we all liked the same things,, variety is the spice of life

 

The use of labels aren't necessarily bad. Like most things we find offensive, the offense is in the mind of the offended.
If another guy hit on you and you say "Thank you but I'm straight." is that a terrible thing?
Or if a woman hits on you and you say you're gay.
In your second paragraph you labeled yourself 1)white 2)male 3) conservative. Which just shows that "labels" are identifiers too.
Most people are too quick to take offense these days. Take a second and look at it from the perspective of the person using the label. Were they trying to be offensive? (saying that someone is gay is different than calling them a faggot)
Terminology for sexual concepts change so quickly that it's hard to keep up sometimes. It wasn't that long ago when "transvestite" covered everything from cross dresser to post-op (use to be a man) women.
Now there's about a dozen terms for each individual sub-group. If I accidentally refer to you as trans-sexual when you prefer trans-gender it's not because I'm trying to be disrespectful. It's because I'm not that deep into the nuances.
We still have people on here that use terms such as She-male and T-boys. Which I personally wouldn't use and advise others that the terms are outdated.
Here's a word of advise to those who are in flux. If a guy takes you home not knowing that you have a penis and you know he doesn't know, don't be surprised if he has a negative response. Am I advocating violence? NO. I also don't suggest the women walk through Central Park, naked at midnight. Bad thinks are gonna happen.

 

If it was good sex you might label yourself:
Lucky
Glad
Blithe
Thrilled
Questioning

 

Yes, exactly. Labels are just language. Nothing more. We use language to understand the world around us, so we know what we're dealing with when we see it. Knowing whether someone is bi or gay or straight is very important to a sexual negotiation. As someone whosw had sex with both men and women, I can assure you that they're not the same thing. Using words that express as much just ensures that you understand who I am and what my intentions are.

 

My wife has been calling me a cocksucker for years. She's always telling me that I'm nothing but a cocksucker. She told me that she knew I was a cocksucker before we got married, but didn't know how much of a cocksucker I was. She told me she was hoping I'd change, but once a cocksucker always a cocksucker. I have to be honest! It's really nice knowing that she doesn't consider me bi. I'm a cocksucker

 

Labels only make sense if you're living them and it's part of your identity. Or if you're in a lifestyle where that sort of distinction is important.

Having said that, we all have our roles to play in society Nd a way for people to identify us. It's about how we relate to each other.

 

I think the issue is so many these days don't come from any kind of real community so they don't understand how to exist within one and within society and how to accept that everybody has their place in society. It's all about me me me and being catered to at all times.

 

People use labels because from birth we are taught to categorize everything, we categorize tools, food, jobs, and sex. I believe that labels are bad for any society because all labels do is create barriers to furthering human understanding of other humans. Gay and straight are false terms that originated in the church, they were designed to drive the morals of the masses to conform with one persons views based on their unfortunate beliefs. There is no person that is 100% one or the other, we operate as humans based on our personal needs and desires.
Personally I am neither gay nor straight, I rest equally in the middle, I am bi-sexual and I do not prefer one over the other. I dated several trans people, both MTF and FTM, biological males and biological females, I am now married to a beautiful trans woman(now post-op) that I adore and is getting more comfortable with the act of pegging. She has watched me getting fucked by men, sucking guys off, and fucking other women and because she is not that comfortable with her body all she is willing to do is watch. She has no desire to have sex with others but she knows that once in a while I enjoy it.
Being gay does not mean you like to have sex with one sex at all, remember the word gay originated as someone that was happy, perhaps all the "straight" married people were just jealous that the people that were sexually open were happier because they took the chance to find out what they liked.

How does one know if the like or hate something that they have never tried?

 

I think labels are important because they are a quick way to explain who you are, what you like, what you do. I can say “I’m attracted to both men and women” or “I’m bisexual.” My friend can say “my gender identity does not match the sex I was assigned at birth” or she can say “I’m transgender.”

As someone upthread pointed out, there’s a big difference between calling someone gay vs. calling them a faggot.

Ideally I think labels are for self categorizing, not defining others. Of course they’re used both ways, and problems can arise when the category you put yourself in isn’t the one that others put you in. Or if others are using categories to put you down instead of simply saying “oh, that’s who you are.”

I like language, I like words, I like labels. I don’t want them to be reductive. They should start a conversation rather than end it.

ps: I don’t think being attracted to or having sex with a trans woman makes you gay. Trans women are women.

 

I like this word better than Bisexual.

Ok, my two cents, like anybody's interested...Labels, yes they are defining, in the setting your in, here I run my mouth and talk of things I want to experience, here, everything is open and every sexual proclivity is discussed and flaunted about.
I'm not saying people dont live the lives they talk about in the forum, I'm not bringing up politics, but I'm pretty conservative, old fashioned, traditional, old school, (that means more than voting Republican),
whatever ya want to label me I wear it with pride,
I am open minded about things, especially how the world is changing (well not really), for myself, some things wont change, some things I'm open to....I have a desire to give a guy a blowjob, but I wouldnt have a boyfriend or date guys, not gunna hang out in glory holes.
I dont even want a relationship with a woman but thats besides the point.
If people want to be gay, so what, live and let live, who cares and why should they,
I consider myself straight, dont know what label a millennial, yuppies, gen X or whatever youngsters are calling themselves today would label me.

Do I care, ya, thats me, some things I'll keep to myself, wont go over well in the world I live in. Parents, kids, friends, family, I know one, maybe two, actually three who are open and have gay relationships, not my generation.
So what label should I wear, what the hell would ya call me?
Do I have to have a label, cant people just be.....No, I suppose not.

 

Well put on the subject. Your top notch member

 

I think some type of label are important in the beginning of a relationship or at least explain what you like or don't like and don't drop bombshells on your partner after the relationship had already begun. You are asking that person to compromise something that may very well be against their moral code and it will cause chaos.