1. NicoleDeLint

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    I certainly hope it is "just a flash in the pan."

    Right now we need Chines help in dealing with North Korea.

    I expect China to achieve world hegemony by the end of this century. I hope the Chinese achieve that without war and that the United States does not attempt to prevent it with war.

    History is moving in China's direction and against ours. The Chinese do not need war to achieve domination of the world.
     
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      The US, or for that matter, just about any modern country, does not need help dealing with Korea. It would be to our advantage if China collared their wayward fat boy, but if it came to it, the US could settle North Korea in a moment.

      And President Trump would no doubt remind China and Russia to take a seat, not get involved; that is, unless they wanted to get fucked up along with Korea. You see, we don't have a sissy in the oval office just now.
       
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    Doubtful you will see that. As economic conditions and social media progress in China, so will political problems, corruption and unrest. The war China may fight in the future will most likely be a civil war....
     
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    China has tremendous potential but the leaders are not willing to provide the latitude to provide its brightest enough freedom to fully take advantage of that potential .

    If they did that China would be a much much larger threat than it is.

    The big thorn in their side is our treatment of Taiwan . We say that we believe in the one china policy but we sell the Taiwanese so much military equipment that that one china policy is impossible .

    I don't even understand what it is we're trying to accomplish .

    I think that Japan must be the most worried of all the countries in the region .

    Lots and lots of bad blood .
     
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    It is much a do about nothing.
    That is China's front yard ,
    a bit like the Gulf of Mexico is the US's.

    They're just checking out who's fukin round in their front yard ,
    and lettin them know the head honcho in those parts is a watchin you.

    Just like the US would a Chinese aircraft in "Your" gulf :)
     
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    Supposedly the Chinese are preparing a carrier group to kind of make a statement in international waters off the coast of California.

    It's easy to forget that the Chinese are extremely weak at the moment .

    The US spends more money on its military than pretty much the whole rest of the world combined.

    That may change and may change soon but that's the way it is right now
     
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      lol , methinks thou dust misunderstand the Chinese.
      Weak ?
      how do you figure that.

      Remember ,
      the Chinese don't go to war ,
      don't need to ,
      hence have no real need of huge military dinosaurs ,
      have basically outsmarted the west in their region ,
      and don't give a shit much about the US .

      Pretty much , all they're doing , is just enough to protect their trade routes ,
      and that's all they need.

      They're pretty well insulated from world bullshit , being well protected behind the Himalayas , the frozen tundra , and the mid Asian deserts.
      All they really have to protect is their pacific coast trade access .
      :)
       
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      !
      ICBMS and Seal teams can't get over the Himalayas or across the deserts?
      The idea that a country is physically isolated from outside influence went away in WWII.
       
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      Who said anything about being insulated from outside influence" ?


      laughing my cock off
      I love how people either purposefully , to create a different argument , or out of lack of comprehension , read into written words , things that are neither said , nor in context.

      note ; anyine: you may need to read a bit more than one post to catch up
       
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    I am saying that they are weak militarily .
    They would have a very difficult time engaging the United States directly militarily .
    I agree that they might be clever and in that sense there is a lot of metaphorical strength .
     
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      Shooter doesn't think so.
      China has far greater manufacturing capacity than the US.
      They have a few Million more fighting age citizens than the US.
      The US could not, by itself, win an extended war with China.
       
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      And besides, China can survive being blown back into the 18th century.
      The US could not.
       
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      They are never going to engage the US militarily. ( in the current and foreseeable future)
      They have no need to ,
      no desire to ,
      and absolutely no reason to.


      Conversely , as they don't GO TO war , the US would be on a hiding to nothing , IF they were silly enough to go against China militarily :)

      REMEMBER
      the US , in spite if it's enormous power , till now anyway , has hardly "won" a war , since the second WW.
      They did win the battle for Kuwait ,
      but after that , well , it is still to be seen.
      Afghanistan ? ? not lookin to won . still to be seen.

      So , apart from this is hypothetical nonsense , I'd say , get real.
       
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    I don't ever see a time when one country or region will rule the world .
    No Pax Americana
    No pax Sovietica
    No pax Asiatica.
    The Chinese will probably become the dominant power in Asia but in a confederation of Asian states some of which will be brought into that union kicking and screaming.
     
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      You are correct.
      Earthlings are too ............... cantankerous ........... to tolerate a single world ruler.
      That is, unless supreme commander gets a hair and decides to conquer earth.
      But, the first thing he'd do is send all the men to work planets.
      And fuck all the good looking women till they couldn't stop grinning.
       
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    Remember ,
    the Chinese don't go to war ,
    don't need to ,

    I'm confused about who the Americans were fighting in the Korean War .

    I guess telling the American people that we were fighting the Chinese as well as the North Korean army was another McCarthy era lie

    Now I am pissed that we were so deceived.
     
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      Lol , that's the trouble , your still living like it's mid 20th century.
      The Korean war was a carryover from WII etc.
      A whole different era ,
      and why was America fighting there ?
      Oh , that's right , reds under the bed ,
      well news flash , they had a disastrous cultural revilution since then ,
      got over it ,
      and moved on.
      Meanwhile , America has been to war in Vietnam , Iraq , Afghanistan , and involved warlike in Libya and Syria , and and and.

      So ,
      when did China last actually GO TO war ?

      and , when did they ever go to war past their own border areas ?

      The world has moved on since the 1950's
      70's
      90's
       
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      Illustrates my points perfectly

      All wars and incidents on/around their borders ,
      ALL last century.

      Only recently started giving assistance to their international friends (in Africa) to help combat ISIL ,and their cohort terrorist buddies.
      China neither at , nor gone to war.
      and yes , they are beginning to give military type assistance in trouble spots around the world , just like good world citizens should
      Good on them
      Let's face it ,
      they represent a bigger proportion of world population than anyone else ,
      and they're near if not already , the superpower of the 21st century , like it or lump it.
      by economic clout , rather than military
      smart way to go :)
       
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    North Korea and China attacked and fought UN forces.
     
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      Er ar Um
      better check your facts.
      (see below)
       
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      Ok. after they landed at Inchon and pushed the N.Koreans north. My point was that it was a UN force fighting in Korea.
       
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    Western bankers don't like to see any of their investment money being siphoned off by corruption in Africa. The Chinese realise that is the price of doing business and are willing to grease the wheels. The riches of Africa will soon be in their hands.
     
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      Much of it already is.
      They've been quietly and cleverly moving in there for decades.
      As I've said before , they've outsmarted the West
      (in many ways , in many places)
       
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    The Korean War began when North Korea invaded South Korea.
    nothing to do with china
    The United Nations, with the United States as the principal force, came to the aid of South Korea. From where ?

    China came to the aid of North Korea, From across their common border
    and the Soviet Union gave some assistance.
     
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    The last century was 17 years ago so hardly ancient history
     
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      Absolutely brilliant observation , the Korean war was only 65 years ago , and WWII only 75 ,
      so you managed to work out it ain't ancient history .
      amazing how things change from decade to decade ,
      and how era come , and era go

      So we're approaching the 2020's , and some haven't noticed the 1970's are gone :)

      Time to catch up :)
       
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    Fidel Castro used to complain that the United States would not do business with him but could not do business Fast enough with China and he also reminded the US that China was not our friend.

    If what you are suggesting is a fatalistic view the China will be the world superpower then that's a pretty depressing concept.

    The cultural revolution in China And other state sponsored activities to maintain its power killed tens of millions of people .

    More power to China if they are fighting Isis in Africa but it's likely more about access to mineral Rights then about any concern about human rights.

    Again I reiterate that altruism is a Fiction and does not and has not ever existed
     
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    Most liberals are still extremely concerned about Naziism even though it ended on the state level about 75 years ago .
    Should not be concerned about Chinese actions that are even more recent.

    Hard to have your cake and eat it too.

    And Asians certainly do not think in terms of decades but rather of centuries or much more .
     
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      Yep , China possibly, probably the oldest longest lasting continually independent country in world history.
      They traded with the Egyptians , Persians , Indus , Greeks and Romans ,
      and been a super power before ,
      notably around the 6th century AD for example.
       
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    My point is that some have not noticed that the 1940s are gone.
     
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    Damascus is probably the oldest continuously existing city in the world .

    But China has had a long history to be sure .

    And we have forgotten about what's happened in Tibet and other areas under their control. And unlike the west they have never apologized for what they have done in areas that they have occupied.

    Supersized Suzy/Aya Who are clearly the same person refuse to acknowledge this.

    They refuse to acknowledge this even when adored liberal figures like Fidel Castro reiterate my point about the dangers of China.
     
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    I should probably post this in a separate thread but I wish to make one thing crystal clear .

    Winston Churchill was vilified for vilifying Naziism. And most of this vilification came from the left . He also vilified Islam. Same deal today .

    Like him I will speak my truth simply and clearly . And I do not require validation to feel that my positions are correct .

    History has vindicated him just as I believe history will vindicate me and my positions.

    His great advantage over me is that he didn't waste his time posting his views on a porn site .

    But I will continue to post my views on any site where thinking people will hear me .
     
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    People seem to think of China as a country that goes back as far as history can remember . But it was a series of dynasties . Certainly not connected and certainly at war with one another . Certainly not the landmass that we call China today . The Chinese view Tibet as an integral part of China and that was never Historically true .

    The Chinese love to consider themselves to be the progenitors of everything good in the world .

    If one wishes to believe that then who am I to get in the way of their magical thinking ?

    Yes they were more civilized than the west during our medieval period. And certainly the Middle East was more civilized but I'm more interested in what's going on today.

    The Middle East remains in their medieval era and the Chinese are stealing everything that they can from the west with spies everywhere from Stockholm to Washington DC .

    I don't understand how this great Force of civilization can't even come up with even an alphabet much less a fork.

    They may become the great force in the world but we also said that about Japan in the 1980s .

    As for me I will not put a crown on anyone else until history absolutely dictates it
     
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