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  1. VenusInFurze

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    It's been a long time since I considered myself submissive per se. I don't think I have a submissive personality; I'm obedient to authority if I trust and respect the person. I'm obedient to Sir, but I don't default to submissive behavior with other people. I'm in multiple other relationships but those are all either egalitarian, or I'm the dominant partner.

    It's not sexual for me, or kinky; it's how our whole relationship works. Sex and kink are just parts of how we interact, they're not the most important parts by any means and they aren't the focus. The dynamic ranges through every part of our lives together.

    I was in my first M/s relationship in my early 20s. I was aware of BDSM, I met someone who told me he was looking for a submissive partner and eventually a slave, I said I'd give it a whirl, and took to it like a duck to water. I was away from home for the first time, out of college, not really sure where my life was going, and I fell easily into a structured environment. It's not that I didn't take responsibility or didn't want to make decisions, but not having to deal with all the little details freed up my inner being.

    I realize that sounds contradictory. But being a slave does give me freedom. I worry a lot about what other people think, I want everyone to be happy, and I'll do anything to help another person. I can get so wrapped up in other people that I ignore myself. But as a slave I really only have to please one person. I can concentrate on him and what he wants and needs, and he makes sure I get taken care of/take care of myself. I'm not responsible for everyone else, just him, and for what he gives me responsibility for. And when I am removed from the clutter of expectations that other people have for me and my attempts to live up to them, I'm free to be myself. Really feel who I am and be what I need to be. I'm clear-headed and I have a single purpose. It feels good to know exactly where I am and what I need to do.
     
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    Thanks TS. Good to be back ;)
     
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  4. thinskin

    thinskin Porn Star Banned!

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    Thank you Venus although I think your contribution raises as many questions as it answers!

    What is becoming clear is that submission means different things to different people and I will expand upon this later but for now I am going to create a masterpiece in the kitchen with chicken, broccoli and sugar snaps!

    Later.......

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  5. Sweetpassion

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    Being submissive is compelling to me for many reasons. I'm pretty submissive in real life not only in the bedroom. Being submissive is a feeling. Matter of fact alot of feelings come into play. It requires so much trust and comfort in your partner. It is feeling empowering yet so vulnerable. Some see it as you being weak but someone once told me submissive women are some of the strongest women. I would say that's true. You have to be so brave to just fully submit in that way.

    To just kneel when they say to. Or lay over their lap for spankings. Being tied up or blind folding not knowing what will take place. Your heart is racing, your breathing changes......You just let go of all your insecurities and give your all to them!! Knowing your giving them pleasure in that way is so compelling in itself.

    But i would say the most satisfying part is knowing you've chosen the right kind of dominating man to submit yourself to. That plays the biggest role in the pleasure and satisfaction you both receive from the act.
     
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    Thank you very much for your post, @Sweetpassion.

    You have very succinctly and clearly explained several aspects of the pleasure from submission. I was not aware of most of what you mentioned. So you have given me a road map to improving myself and becoming a better Dominant who might be deserving of a great submissive.
     
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      Your welcome. That is just my opinion on how i see things. But a good dom is not just controlling but caring as well.
       
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  7. VenusInFurze

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    I am definitely not submissive.
     
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      No, it would never work for me in everyday life, there is just no way.I'd say that is part of the attraction in that is a break from day to day real life of being the Boss Lady, large and in charge at work and an equal partner at home.
       
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      You can be a equal partner at home yet still have submissive tendencies. You can even have a very take charge kind of business or job. Being subby does not mean you aren't capable of using your mind. Like for me i love to be bathed or comforted. I love attention. I don't like being alone. I like to do things to make my partner happy. Those are some things submissive women enjoy.
       
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      It's very interesting, BigSuzyB, to hear you say that since it's such a common stereotype that people in charge at work like to not be in charge in bed.

      I once heard an interview with a professional dominatrix who speculated that stereotype came from a sample bias; that the only people who could afford a professional dominatrix were successful and typically in positions of authority. But her theory assumes all doms are professional like her.
       
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      I think a professional dominatrix is a business woman first and foremost!

      ts
       
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  8. thinskin

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    Another good point from Venus, there is a difference between submission and being submissive!

    thinskin
     
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  9. nikkitassassin

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    Im a dom so cant answer the main question but I wanted to raise how important this bit is. I always play with a sub knowing that they have the power really, if they stop then its all over.

    I never feels compelled to submit, im not a switch, but I understand hat fine balance as a dom with a subs desires and needs.
     
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  10. thinskin

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    What I have seen so far is that submission and sexual submission are two different things but a common theme is that the submissive partner feels a freedom from the clutter of responsibility.

    Let's remember that to submit is a verb, submission is a noun and submissive is an adjective.

    Now I would like to focus on sexual submission for a moment, I do not think that a sexual act in itself is submissive but the mindset of the participants in the sexual act can be submissive.

    So how does this effect the resulting orgasm of the participants of the sexual act?

    Thinskin
     
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      In submissive acts the orgasms are so much more intense. It's the build up and the denial and the edging. Awaiting and building.....working up to a very intense explosive orgasm. But the dom has to also know how far to take that if a sub is taking to that point and backed off to long it can cause the opposite effect. That can be a let down. That's not what your working towards. Your working towards heightening her orgasm.
       
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  11. VenusInFurze

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    I can't answer questions about sex that results in orgasms, lol.
     
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      I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here as I think you know what I mean but are being a little obtuse or even combative!;)

      I am talking about the nature of those orgasms and even if you don't then your partners do!!

      You cannot be that lousy a fuck!;)

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  12. VenusInFurze

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    @thinskin Well, my partners have orgasms! I just don't.
     
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    I did not doubt it for a second but perhaps you could comment of the intensity or voracity of those orgasms under different circumstances as your original statement "I can't answer questions about sex that results in orgasms, lol." was not typical and does not shed much light on the question I was putting out there!

    I mean you have been very proactive and helpful thus far!:)

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  14. Hussie6776

    Hussie6776 Occasionally. So what..?

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    Being free from responsibility..?
     
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      I suggest you read the whole thread and we can reconvene this evening........my day begins!

      ts
       
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      I've read every post here twice. Have a good day.
       
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      Back in the room briefly having submitted for some time. She sleeps.

      My curiosty is only to further knowledge of self. I'm not compelled in any way and clearly I can't answer your question but only pose one.
       
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  15. VenusInFurze

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    I just don't like the assumption that sex always results in orgasms and I was feeling snippy about it.
     
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      Nowhere did I use the word always referring to the orgasm but it is a little self indulgent, not to say bratty, to make that point here don't you think?

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    "Resultant orgasm" implies that it's the result, doesn't it?

    My sadist deeply pissed me off yesterday and I'm not in a good mood.
     
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      Resulting not resultant!!

      So if you were restrained as in legs akimbo and I applied the hitachi of full power to your magic button nothing would happen?

      If not I would say that puts you in a significant minority!

      Nevermind you have made what is already a difficult subject even more difficult and for what? To point out that you do not orgasm easily.................I suspect this is a thread killer so thanks!!:rolleyes:

      ts
       
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  17. VenusInFurze

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    You're welcome.
     
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    I also think we have different definitions of sex.
     
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    Can I be of willing subjective matter?
     
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    Empathis on subject and or matter.
     
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