Perhaps and I apologise not pointing out that in the resulting orgasm, the result could be an integer between 0 and 1 and multiples thereof!

thinskin

 

On this point.....i don't feel accomplished or like I've given pleasure if it doesn't end in orgasm. I do know that being subby is about patience and waiting. That is something i struggle with. Or if a dom wants it to be all about me with him not recieving pleasure none other than pleasing me. I struggle with being okay with that too. Cause i feel it's my duty to give him pleasure. So i guess that kinda adds a thought to you two and your disagreement. And possibly a good point to touch on in this thread.

 

Loving this site

 

Some interesting opinions about the nature of the submissive orgasm but no real conclusions as yet!

When we talk about submissive..........is it the act itself that is submissive or more to do with the mindset of the protagonists?

Thinskin

 

I'll repost this...........as I hope the comedy interruption is over!

Some interesting opinions about the nature of the submissive orgasm but no real conclusions as yet!

When we talk about submissive..........is it the act itself that is submissive or more to do with the mindset of the protagonists?

Thinskin

 

I think this thread has run its course but we never really go onto why submission is so compelling........I will give it a few more days then write what are my thoughts and conclusions regarding submission, sub-space and subdrop!

Thinskin

 

I know it's only B&D but I like it, like it, yes I do! I say, I know it's only S&M but I like it, like it, yes I do!

 

I love just giving my body over to a guy and letting him take charge. Doing whatever he needs to satisfy his male urges and get what he wants. I love seeing how good my body makes him feel and how powerful he is when he's fucking me and penetrating me deeply. I love feeling him take control of my body, grab my breasts, put me in different positions and use me until he cums. And I love hearing him make happy noises when he's filling me up!

 

I've tried to respond to this thread a number of times unsuccessfully (sometimes losing saved posts, others simply changing my mind). Submission is such a massive subject that is so varied from individual to individual, so often confused with other things (where resistance is the point as an example), etc., etc., that I'm not sure how one can fully explain it without writing a book. The terms "Top and Bottom" in most cases is a better description for how many people view it and what they apply it to.

For myself, though I enjoy taking bottom roles now and again, there is absolutely nothing that is submissive about me. I can play the roles others look for to such a degree that many have asked if I'm a "lifestyle choice slave," yet it is insincere, simply an act. The gratification I get from such times comes in the form of compliant resistance. My slave Kathy however who is a "lifestyle choice slave" to an extreme degree few will know is 100% submissive in all regards. She personally cannot live or function, or be happy living any other way. My slave Tanya however is just a lazy slut, hehe (yes she's sitting right here), she uses taking a submissive role to enjoy all of the freedoms and benefits of being at the will and whim of others. She has no need to be submissive, she really doesn't even feel it IMO, so for her it is simply a mode of being which "serves her enjoyment."

I also have a number of other submissives who's reasons are as varied as individuals. Though taking a submissive role, some actually are, and some aren't. In the end however, though a submissive may seem to serve others, in reality they are serving their own needs. There is nothing wrong with that, it is how a rich and full life should be, and better still, as they serve their own needs, they serve those of others so everyone can win.

Just to show how confusing it can be however, Kathy as said it 100% submissive in all regards. However, in that it serves her needs, no matter how sacrificing, unconditional and giving that may be, she strives to drive the submissive aspect for self out of herself. To that end she craves a life where she has eliminated all of her own wants and needs, yet therein is the catch-22. If that is something she craves and strives for, than it is selfish and against that very goal.

So you can see how varied and confusing it can be. In one of my attempts I tried explaining my own submissive activities, yet upon reflection I simply felt that it confused the issue in that when you got down to it, there was nothing submissive about it. It is simply something that is not in my nature, in fact, taking the role and serving well for me is a mark of pride and dominance over the situation and those taking the dominant role.

Perhaps if you ask about specific aspects (which you have begun to do) than I can answer intelligently. It's simply too broad of a subject for me to answer as it stands.

Hush....an alias

 

I submit when panties hit the floor.

 

As a person who has the ability to change states from Dominant to Submissive and from Submissive back to Dominant (Switch) I can discuss both sides of the dice. As a submissive I enjoy letting myself go in the hands of someone who will have control over me (always with my content, otherwise is not going to happen). That feeling of releasing everything makes me personally feel so free like nothing else. Now on the other side, as a Dominant I enjoy taking control, it makes me feel powerful knowing that the other person just trusted me to control them. It's really kind of weird to describe it but hopefully it makes sense.

 

Nina:
I didn't read through all three pages of replies so I hope I'm not being redundant here.
Being submissive is the total surrender to someone. Not of my values or principles. Not of my sense of self or self worth.
It's part of my duality. I'm intelligent. I have the respect of my peers. I'm in a good place professionally and personally.
I'm in the upper tier of what is generally considered "Middle Management". Plus the usual household things that most women are responsible for.
It's not a part of our daily sex life but when I give myself over to it, I'm relieved of all the pressure of my day to day life. I'm not in control for a while.
It's a more intimate expression of love than "making love" or simple sex.
I'm married to my best friend and the love of my life.

 

Browse my profile , proudly lived as a sub/Mistress /babygirl for the past 14 years.I also mentor and train others

 

I am going to bump this as I am working on my contribution but please feel free to contribute!!

Thinskin

 

"Someone who respects you in life, but understands that your submission in the bedroom is a gift he should take care of."

 

Not looking to rush you or anything, I know things take time. I was just wondering how it's been going with preparing your contribution? You think late summer or early fall you might be ready? This has been another comedy interruption

 

Jack, it's bad form to be so critical when a man has difficulty finishing. Honestly, smile and be consoling - it happens to everyone, it's perfectly normal, it truly doesn't matter...

 

There's a blue pill now days that helps with finishing