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  1. M4MPetCock

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    Since his name isn't included, I guess I'll just ask how much the federal debt shrunk under Obama's two terms?



    If $4 trillion is unpatriotic, I'd say $9 trillion must be treason.

    (Oh no, he said the "t" word. That's reserved for Trump.)
     
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      Oh no, under the monkey the debt increase was an illusion. It didn't increase more than all conservative regimes combined. Well, it did, but it wasn't his doing, just ask the leftist.:rolleyes:
       
      TwoCards, Jul 22, 2017
    2. Jdbfromnj
      But everyone got insurance because of Obama. It doesn't matter who's paying for it. The snowflakes feel good about themselves. Isn't that what really matters?
       
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    Fucking conservatives must be infecting NY. Snowflakes are going to be pissed someone is infringing on their rights!
     
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    But you and two cards are simply trying to ram your religious beliefs down everyone's throat in violation of the First Amendment and the separation of church and state. What you and two cards are advocating for is Sharia law for Christians.

    And I will also point out another often told lie by conservatives who claim they value freedom and personal liberty. When that is a lie when people like you believe you and/or the government should be able to dictate to everyone else who they love, how they dress, who they believe they are, and how they want to live their lives.

    Again on nothing more than your personal religious beliefs that you want to dictate to everyone else.

    You always tell these just really stupid lies and then never take any "personal responsibility," For doing that. The NRA is almost exclusively run by conservatives and for the most part supported by conservatives.

    And it is another lie to say I do not support the Second Amendment. As I have pointed out multiple times on that thread I am a gun owner myself. But that does not mean that we can't have some common sense gun controls, which the Supreme Court has also upheld along with the right for individuals to own guns. There is nothing hypocritical about that.

    But when it comes to lying conservatives you sure are proving my point.

    I went to work at 12 and worked all my life. But yes I do support things like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Aid to families with dependent children, and housing programs. I think those are all good things because I don't believe the richest country in the world should allow men women and children to starve and die in the streets. Or die for lack of medical care. I think that is just being a decent human being.

    And let me add one more. Food stamps. What liars like you constantly ignore is that many people who qualify for Food Stamps and Medicaid actually do work full time jobs. Many of them work more than one job. And they still live below the poverty level.

    So don't try to give me any of your phony bullshit about working for a living because its just another glaring example of the lie of conservatism.

    And again this is just another one of you stupid lies. If someone shows up for work drunk or high I have no problem at all with them being fired. But that should be between the employer and employee not something mandated by the federal government.

    But your other lie is that drug testing is for dealing with people who show up to work drunk or high. Employers in many industries are required to conduct pre-employment drug screening and random testing of employees. Which means employees must prove themselves innocent before they are even guilty of anything.

    So again you just do a wonderful job of highlighting all the lies of conservatism as it is preached and practiced in this nation. And I thank you for that.
     
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      So you would have no problem with someone providing medical care to you or your family is an active drug addict or alcoholic. That's good to know. Employers should then stop drug testing. We wouldn't want to protect anyone.
       
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  4. ace's n 8's

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    Kid...you have a long way to go before you understand what Conservatism is.

    By all means keep showing how much you dont understand it.
     
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      But rather than show us your understanding, you just shout that "you don't know what you're talking about" about the other person...
       
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    Well by all means someone educate me on just what a conservative is. Because the last definitions I saw were just utter bullshit that didn't hold up for shit.
     
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    This just incoherent gibberish that makes no sense at all.

    But let me ask you just a very simple question. Employers are required to do drug testing by the federal government. Are employers required to provide medical care and/or treatment for addiction?

    You can answer that simple question can't you?
     
    1. Jdbfromnj
      Absolutely not. It is the responsibility of the individual to seek treatment whether they have insurance or not. AA or NA are equally effective at helping individuals get or stay clean or sober. If the individual is fortunate enough to have insurance, they can seek treatment through their insurance.
       
      Jdbfromnj, Jul 23, 2017
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      Dont forget to mention, some employers will also pay for treatment.

      If they are a valuable asset to the Company.
       
      ace's n 8's, Jul 23, 2017
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      I will try to simplify this for you then. I have worked in healthcare for twenty seven years. I am directly responsible for the medical care I provide. If I apply for a job at a medical center, the employer has a legal responsibility to the public to ensure that someone they employ is safe to practice. If I were to give someone an incorrect amount of medication because I was impaired the patient would possibly die. I believe as the majority of Americans, that a healthcare employer has the responsibility to ensure their employees are safe to work there. Drug testing is just one way of helping to ensure the publication safety. You may not agree, but you're not responsible for the lives of those whom we employed to care for.
       
      Jdbfromnj, Jul 23, 2017
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  7. stumbler

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    double post
     
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    Ok now this proves my first point. The federal government mandated drug testing but no treatment or even insurance coverage to help workers recover. At least until the ACA came along and then insurance companies had to cover treatment and mental health. Which is the great thing about it. But being the liar you are you support federally mandated drug testing but oppose federal mandates to cover treatment and mental health.

    No all you did here is trip yourself up lying again. In other posts you have claimed to ride around in Uber cars all day going from client to client which is why you can claim to have a day job but still manage to post on a porn forum all day long. So you just busted yourself again there. And as usual you can't even keep your stories straight.

    Really??? Well let's just test this then. Are doctors subject to random drug testing?
     
    1. Jdbfromnj
      Stumbler, I an still concerned about your failing memory. You seem to have trouble remembering what I do for a job, even after I have explained it to you several times. Have you consulted with your doctor yet? Previously, you said I was a traveling salesman. Now I see clients all day? At least you remembered Uber, so you're partially correct. TwoCards and I even created a thread for you to help you track our whereabouts. I work in an office all day. I take Uber from the train to the office and from the office back to the train.
       
      Jdbfromnj, Jul 23, 2017
    2. Jdbfromnj
      Doctors can be required to drug test as well. A hospital can suspend their privileges if they suspect impairment. Additionally, the boards of medicine can suspend their license if they suspect impairment.
       
      Jdbfromnj, Jul 23, 2017
    3. shootersa
      Shooter is confused; when did the Government mandate drug testing?
      The government does mandate drug testing for Federal employees.
      Some states mandate drug testing for public assistance programs.
      but, when did they mandate drug testing for private employees?
       
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  9. stumbler

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    GOP Presidents Have Been the Worst Contributors to the Federal Debt

     
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    Presidents dont spend the money....fool.

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    During the Reagan administration, Democrats controlled the House all 8 years. The Senate had slight Republican majorities for the first six years, before Democrats won back a majority in 1986, but the GOP never had enough seats to avoid a Democratic filibuster. Overall, Democrats clearly had more power in Congress when the debt ballooned 189% from 1981-1989.


    During the administration of Bush 41, Democrats controlled both bodies all four years, when the debt went up 55%.

    During the first two years of the Clinton administration, Democrats controlled both bodies of Congress. However, Republicans won back both chambers in 1994, and kept them for the remainder of his Presidency. In 1994, the deficit (annual contribution to the total debt) was $203.2 billion. In the year 2000, the last year of the Clinton Presidency, after 6 years of GOP control of spending and taxes, we had a $236.2 billion SURPLUS (see the previous link for budget numbers).

    For the first six years of the Bush 43 Presidency, Republicans controlled both the House and the Senate. The deficit peaked in 2004 at $412.7 billion, the highest it was during any of those six years. In 2008, the deficit was $455 billion, higher than any other full fiscal year under Bush. This is after the Democrats won back control of both the House and the Senate in the 2006 midterm elections.

    Now here is where things get crazy – in 2009, the year Obama took office in January, when Democrats had already been controlling spending and taxation for 2 years prior and had just won even larger majorities in the 2008 elections, the deficit set an all time nominal record of $1.4 trillion. Many (rightfully) blame this on the recision. Tax receipts had dropped substantially, and the Democrats felt increasing spending would help “stimulate” the economy. You be the judge if that worked or not, but let’s not pretend this $1.4 trillion jump in the national debt is the fault of the Republicans, even if you choose to not hold Democrats responsible.

    In January 2011, following the 2010 midterms, Republicans entered with more seats in the Senate than before, and a new majority in the House. They didn’t have as much control over spending/taxes as they did in the 1990s, but they had more than before, and could get their agenda on the table under the Obama Presidency. Since Republicans have had the chance to manipulate fiscal policy (to one extent or another) starting in January 2011, the deficit shrunk from its high of $1.4 trillion, to $483 billion in 2014.

    It’s clear, to any honest person, which party is more responsible with the nation’s finances.
     
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      Absolute proof that figures never lie, but liars figure.
      a $19 Trillion debt is just unacceptable.
       
      shootersa, Jul 23, 2017
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    You and Smith piss and moan about stumbler highlighting his posts with varying colors so what do you do, you do the same shit you dummies bitch about. Yours may as well be in crayon for all the good it does ...

    AND let me stop you before you go more stupid, you didn't have to say it, just "liking" a post of someone that did is the SAME thing ...
     
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    The sexual revolution has led to a growing percentage of children who are not raised by both biological parents living together in matrimony. Children who are raised by both biological parents living together in matrimony tend to do better in life.

    The War in Vietnam was wrong for reasons I can explain at length if I am asked to do so.

    I have never taken hard drugs. I have never had a friend who did, so I lack an expert opinion on them. What I have read about marijuana and experienced in my life leads me to believe that it is less dangerous than alcohol and tobacco, and that it may actually be beneficial to some people.
     
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    Cutting taxes - especially for the rich - while raising defense spending caused the increase in the national debt during the Reagan years.

    Cutting taxes while raising defense spending was Reagan's idea. Virtually all Congressional Republicans thought it was a good idea and went along with it.

    Too many Congressional Democrats acquiesced. They knew that Reagan carried their district or state by a greater majority than they did, so they were afraid to oppose Reagan on this.
     
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    But you guys have proven time and time again that you ARE racist, sexist, homophobic, and evil. Often, unabashedly so. I guess I'm not sure what the problem is. I mean, I have been personally called a nigger by several of you and I've never even revealed my race.

    The president's son referred to liberals as less than human. I don't think this victim playing is going to work for you.
     
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    No, because the answer to that question has been known for a long time. It's called gerrymandering. There's also a reason it got so much worse in 2010. Can you tell me why that is?
     
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    Participation trophies don't count as winning, ace.

    And it's not a surprise you only read the title, because you do the same for your blog articles. I'd say news, but you haven't discovered that yet.
     
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    You know this is right because of all the cursing!
     
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    Sorry what's that about "counter points"? Insults aren't "counter points" and that's all I see here.

    Are you mad? You seem awfully mad.
     
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    Conservatism as described by XNXX forum members is a platform of platitudes full of fideism and fecund fantasy
     
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    Case in point
     
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