Between Sunday morning and this morning (3/10-3/12) 15 teens were killed in three separate incidents, in Texas; Ohio & Illinois. Yet no one jumped on the senselessness of these tragedies.

On Sunday morning & teens from 14 to 19 were speeding in a stolen SUV when the vehicle hit a guard rail and landed upside down in a marsh, six were drown, two escapes with bruises.

Today in Texas a tiny Chevy Cruize loaded with five teens (from 15 to 17) was being driven by a 16 yo girl. She ran a stop sign and got broadsided by a fuel truck, all five were killed outright, the truck driver is in critical condition with burns over 65% of his body.

In Illinois, four teens were killed when their car went of a bridge into an icy creek, the accident happened sometime Monday evening. Authorities are trying to determine what exactly happened, the bodies were found this morning.

How many more teens must be killed before we do something about it.

In three states there are many parents, family members, neighbors, school mates and the general public who are in mourning for these poor young kids. I know I am.

 

Quit posting these stories, they might begin to lobby vehicle control next.

 

Good luck with that. Teens have been involved in countless tragic fatalities every since cars were invented. Before that, I think they rode their horses hard.
So while those deaths are a horrible thing I'm not sure what you can do about it that hasn't been tried before.

 

I thought we already had mandatory driver training, driver licensing, vehicle registration and insurance. Why hasn't that stopped these senseless deaths?

 

Unless you raise the legal age for obtaining a driving license there is nothing you can do apart from wait for technology to make the accidents impossible, which one day it surely will.

Oh and don't forget senior drivers too, in my experience they are just as dangerous (PS - I'm not having a go at you tenguy ).

 

70,000 fat people in the USA died from being fat this year...

But we will be able to buy Twinkies again this summer sometime...

And a judge overruled Mayor Bloomberg's law banning over-sized soft drinks being sold in NYC....

 

But that is contrary to the actuaries findings.

The teen age driver is 188% more likely to cause an accident, while seniors age 65 and older are 16% more likely to cause an accident, than the average adult driver.

 

Some stats for the USA.

In 2004, of all children aged 1-4 that died, over 25% of them died from drowning. 3308 people were killed while in a recreational water setting, many of which were children. 19% of drowning deaths involving children occur in public pools with certified lifeguards present. It is estimated that for each drowning death, there are 4 non-fatal submersions serious enough to result in hospitalization. Children who still require cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) at the time they arrive at the emergency department have a poor prognosis, with at least half of survivors suffering significant neurological impairment. A swimming pool is 14 times more likely than a motor vehicle to be involved in the death of a child age 4 and under.

Unlike cars, swimming pools serve no purpose other than recreation, yet they are one of the biggest killers in the united states. Where is the outrage ? Where are the lobbyists that care about saving the lives of children ?

 

In 2012 there were at least thirty-two deaths of children (see 2012 list) due to hyperthermia (heat stroke) after being in hot cars, trucks, vans and SUV's.


In 2011 there were at least 33 juvenile vehicular hyperthermia fatalities. Since 1998 there have been at least a total of 556 of these needless tragedies.

This study shows that these incidents can occur on days with relatively mild (i.e., ~ 70 degrees F) temperatures and that vehicles can reach life-threatening temperatures very rapidly.



Total number of U.S. hyperthermia deaths of children left in cars, 1998-present:

559​

http://www.ggweather.com/heat/
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Every day, about ten people die from unintentional drowning. Of these, two are children aged 14 or younger.


From 2005-2009, there were an average of 3,533 killed annually while in a recreational water setting(this also excludes boating related instances) in the United States — about ten deaths per day. An additional 347 people died each year from drowning in boating-related incidents.

About one in five people who die from drowning are children 14 and younger.

For every child who dies from drowning, another five receive emergency department care for non-fatal submersion injuries.

More than 50% of drowning victims treated in emergency departments (EDs) require hospitalization or transfer for further care (compared with a hospitalization rate of about 6% for all unintentional injuries).

These nonfatal drowning injuries can cause severe brain damage that may result in long-term disabilities such as memory problems, learning disabilities, and permanent loss of basic functioning (e.g., permanent vegetative state).

Who is most at risk?

Children: Children ages 1 to 4 have the highest drowning rates. In 2009, among children 1 to 4 years old who died from an unintentional injury, more than 30% died from drowning.

*Among children ages 1 to 4, most drownings occur in home swimming pools.

Drowning is responsible for more deaths among children 1-4 than any other cause except congenital anomalies (birth defects).

19% of drowning deaths involving children occur in public pools with certified lifeguards present.

A swimming pool is 14 times more likely than a motor vehicle to be involved in the death of a child age 4 and under.

Unlike cars, swimming pools serve no purpose other than recreation, yet they are one of the biggest killers in the united states. Where is the outrage ? Where are the lobbyists that care about saving the lives of children ?

Oops, better post a source for DL.

http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsafety/water-safety/waterinjuries-factsheet.html

 

Now why did you go and do that?? Why not just force him to try to prove you wrong? It's a lot more fun that way.

After jumping through all kinds of hoops for him, I decided :Fuck it", let him do the research to find fodder for an argument.

 

Is there some point you're trying to make?

Because it looks like you're trying to suggest these things do nothing to help prevent driving accidents, and then you're going to try to compare this to some other form of regulation.

And it looks like you're going to exploit the deaths of accident victims to do it.

 

Everyone dies, some faster than others.

 

Raising the age does nothing. There are good and bad drivers, and age has nothing to do with it. Adding new laws does nothing. Countless people that drive already break the laws set in place, adding more won't solve the problem.

What happened is tragic. I'm sorry for those who were injured, those whose lives were lost, and the families of the deceased. However, this is why they are called accidents.

 

The only point I am trying to make is that 15 young people died in three incidents in the space of less than 48 hours. Each was in a vehicle which was operated by a teen age driver, each also appears to have been a female.

These were completely senseless deaths, totally preventable, in two cases the vehicles were being operated illegally. One was a stolen vehicle, driven at a high rate of speed on a narrow road. The third incident is still under investigation as to cause and who was operating (although a 17 yo female was the registered owner)

Where is the outrage against careless and reckless driving? Why has no one else posted these tragedies.

Perhaps it is because they are not as visible as gun deaths, one esteemed member has taken it upon himself to post every single death by gunshot that hits "Raw story", yet he is silent here.

These young people had families, they are grieving, only a callous person would try to capitalize on their grief.

Now, what is your problem today?

 

Assuming you're right in what he's trying to do - how on earth would he prove it? Does he want people to give specific examples of accidents that didn't happen because of those regulations?

 

Not necessarily callous, just politicians.

 

Hello Heyesey.

I right here, perhaps my new training regime has rendered me invisible.

It isn't that the regulations saved any specific person in any specific event, there is ample evidence that driver training and registration protocol does save lives. BUT, it is also crystal clear that regulations do not solve every problem.

 

Using the words "callous" and "politician" in the same sentence is redundant.

 

Ah, OK . . . got it now - you do have an agenda for your out-of-proportion outrage ;-) I know you know stricter driver training, testing and/or changes to current driving laws would have little impact on car thieves, intoxicated teens and/or the ignorant/careless among us, right? It's not like these kids were sauntering innocently along a quiet road and got clipped by a drunk driver - you want solutions, come up with a better parental training system!