1. Mr Smith 36

    Mr Smith 36 Porn Star

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    So the city of New York, hemmed and hawed for years about providing the people in New York a ice skating rink. After years of debate and construction delays, a private citizen stepped up and had the rink constructed on his own dime and under budget. Who was this generous private citizen? Was it George Soros? Was it Bill or Hillary Clinton? Was it billionaire mayor De Blasio? Was it Senator Chuck Schumer? Was it Senator Elizabeth Warren? Was it multimillionaire congress woman Nancy Pelosi? Maybe it was the people's hero Bernie Sanders... no wait it was Oprah Winfrey, right? Naw, it was Donald Trump. It's easy to talk the talk...
     
  2. RandyKnight

    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    I dont think Trump spent his money but his time....
     
    1. Mr Smith 36
      How much do you think Mr Trump made an hour back then? Rough estimate will do...
       
      Mr Smith 36, Mar 16, 2017
  3. conroe4

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    Correct, NY tried to build this skating rink for 6 years. Trump came in and got it done in less than 18 months and under budget. He didn't use his money, but he used his expertise.
    I wrote about this last year, but was ignored. I didn't spell it out or provide a link that nobody ever clicks on...lol.
     
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  4. shootersa

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    Well, but you weren't ignored so much as .............. buried.
    See, no one wants to hear the good things Trump does.
    That isn't news.
    And it would make the unsupporters froth even more.
    So, anyway, keep posting it when you find it.
    Just don't expect to be cheered for it.
    The unsupporters won't tolerate it.
     
    1. ace's n 8's
      The unsupporters won't tolerate it?.

      I thought that was the idea.
       
      ace's n 8's, Mar 15, 2017
    2. conroe4
      *chuckle* How right you are Shootersa, and how right you've been.
       
      conroe4, Mar 15, 2017
  5. stumbler

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    For one Trump and his son confirmed it.

    For another they make Trump look pretty good on the surface without providing any actual information.

    And finally Trump is desperately trying to change the subject from his wiretapping lies and Russian connections.

    Which worked. For about five minutes. Because his wiretapping lie and Russian connections are exploding by the day and are too big to ignore.
     
  6. anon_de_plume

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    He released 3 pages of his 2005 returns? Amazing! It is obvious that he has something to hide. Anyone who profusely said he would release his returns would not just willy-nilly release a fragment from 12 years ago.

    But I'm sure the supporters will revel in this, shouting "he kept his word"!

    Bullshit!
     
  7. Trev1

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    Since it says on the released pages, Client Copy, who else would have released it?

    My view of the orange thing's tax returns being released, as has been the practice for 40 years, is that there must be something in them that can be criticised. If there is not, why would he refuse to so? If they backed up his statements viz net worth, tax paid and charities given to? If they showed him in a positive light, he would be just silly not doing so. The best disinfectant in the world is sunlight, so what possible logical reason could there be for donny not put them out for a bit of vitamin K?
     
    1. slutwolf
      shouldn't that be vitamin d ?
       
      slutwolf, Mar 16, 2017
    2. tommyturtle
      I suspect that Trump doesn't personally put his tax returns in their file cabinets. Any number of people could have access to them depending on where they are stored.
       
      tommyturtle, Mar 16, 2017
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    And that is also going to blowup in his face. This little snippet just increased the number of people who think he should release his tax returns which is now at 75%. And there are more bills being introduced in congress right now to force Trump to release his tax returns. Plus Trump's tax returns are needed to investigate his Russian connections.

    Something else I missed is the number of states trying to pass laws requiring candidates running for president to release their tax returns before they can be placed on their state's ballots.
     
  9. RandyKnight

    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    I felt that way also.....

    Until I saw how the media acted on just 3 pages from over 10 years ago.....
    I say fuck it never show them.....

    If the Dems need to see the Taxes of the President....
    Draw up a bill and go pass it.............

    I believe there are those in the Govt during Obama that know whats in them and there is nothing or they would
    have been some deceiving way they would have come out.....
     
    1. Mr Smith 36
      Absolutely! It's common sense, they have leaked classified material. If there were any harmful info at all, we would have heard about it way before now. I mean really folks, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.
       
      Mr Smith 36, Mar 16, 2017
    2. Mr Smith 36
      Aren't the cognitive skills of our resident liberals amazing??? Absolutely AMAZING!!!
       
      Mr Smith 36, Mar 16, 2017
  10. stumbler

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    Democrats try new tactic to get Trump's tax returns

     
    1. shootersa
      ........... and none of this would force Trump to release his tax returns until he decides to run in 2018
      But you already know that.
       
      shootersa, Mar 16, 2017
  11. xxxaddict76

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    The reason why President Dipshit paid more percentage wise, President Dipshit made $150 million. If President Obama made $150 million in income as President he would have had a tax rate of 25% or higher. President Obama made $400 thousand as President, thus his tax rate would be lower than President Dipshit.
     
    1. shootersa
      On Tuesday, the news broke that Barack and Michelle Obama signed book deals with Penguin Random House. Although the financial terms of the deals were not released, bidding for the upcoming Obama books reached $60 million before it closed.

      In addition to the book deals, the Obamas could cash in on speaking engagements and a $200,000 a year government pension. This put the Obamas in a unique position to bring in as much as $242.5 million over the next 15 years according to research from American University.

      When the Obamas moved into the White House, they had a net worth of $1.3 million.

      You can google it. The page had pictures of the Obama family.

      As for tax rates, you can Google them as well, but the top tax bracket in 2005 was for $1 Million and above, and the average actual tax rate paid was 23.5%.

      For 2009, the year Obama was elected, the average tax rate for the top bracket (over $372,951) was 35%.
       
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      shootersa, Mar 16, 2017
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      @shootersa. Do not understand what the book deal has to do with anything as well as net worth, but ok.

      So Trump in 2005 at 25% was near the average of 23.5% for those earning $1 million or more. I am sure deductions lowered Trump's tax rate.

      In 2009 the top tax rate was 35%. So rates were adjusted.

      In 2015 President Obama paid a tax rate of 19%. Deductions that adjust income can lower your tax rate. President Obama must have had a better tax guy than President Dipshit.

      I call that economics.
       
      xxxaddict76, Mar 16, 2017
    3. shootersa
      Pay attention. This isn't difficult to follow.
      In 2005 Trump paid tax on his over $1 Million income at 25%. The average tax rate paid in that bracket was 23.5%. Trump paid higher than the average rate in his bracket.
      In 2009 Obama paid at a rate of 19% on his income in excess of $392,501. The tax rate for that bracket in 2009 was 35%.
      Obama paid less than the average in his bracket.

      The point is, for months unsupporters have been yapping that Trump probably paid NO TAX. A liberal lie as it turns out.
      A better tax accountant? Irrelevant to the discussion.
      But you know that.

      Class dismissed.
       
      shootersa, Mar 16, 2017
    4. xxxaddict76
      @shootersa. You make me laugh little man.

      We have seen two returns. If all the others look like 2005, release it all.

      Damn, I need President Obama's tax man.

      Good day little man.
       
      xxxaddict76, Mar 16, 2017
    5. shootersa
      Baubles.
      You still don't get it.
      Trump is playing with the unsupporters.
      He won't release his tax returns unless it benefits him.
      He could give a bunny fart what unsupporters want.

      As Trump, Republicans, Clinton and Democrats are irrelevant to the revolution, unsupporters are irrelevant to Trump.
       
      shootersa, Mar 16, 2017
  12. conroe4

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    2016 tax brackets
    Tax rate Single Head of household
    10% $0 to $9,275 $0 to $13,250
    15% $9,276 to $37,650 $13,251 to $50,400
    25% $37,651 to $91,150 $50,401 to $130,150
    28% $91,151 to $190,150 $130,151 to $210,800
    33% $190,151 to $413,350 $210,801 to $413,350
    35% $413,351 to $415,050 $413,351 to $441,000
    39.6% $415,051 or more $441,001 or more
    Tax rate Married filing jointly or qualifying widow Married filing separately
    10% $0 to $18,550 $0 to $9,275
    15% $18,551 to $75,300 $9,276 to $37,650
    25% $75,301 to $151,900 $37,651 to $75,950
    28% $151,901 to $231,450 $75,951 to $115,725
    33% $231,451 to $413,350 $115,726 to $206,675
    35% $413,351 to $466,950 $206,676 to $233,475
    39.6% $466,951 or more $233,476 or more

    2017 tax brackets (for taxes due in April 17, 2018)
    Tax rate Single Head of household
    10% Up to $9,325 Up to $13,350
    15% $9,326 to $37,950 $13,351 to $50,800
    25% $37,951 to $91,900 $50,801 to $131,200
    28% $91,901 to $191,650 $131,201 to $212,500
    33% $191,651 to $416,700 $212,501 to $416,700
    35% $416,701 to $418,400 $416,701 to $444,550
    39.6% $418,401 or more $444,551 or more
    Tax rate Married filing jointly or qualifying widow Married filing separately
    10% Up to $18,650 Up to $9,325
    15% $18,651 to $75,900 $9,326 to $37,950
    25% $75,901 to $153,100 $37,951 to $76,550
    28% $153,101 to $233,350 $76,551 to $116,675
    33% $233,351 to $416,700 $116,676 to $208,350
    35% $416,701 to $470,700 $208,351 to $235,350
    39.6% $470,701 or more $235,351 or more

    Read more: http://www.bankrate.com/finance/taxes/tax-brackets.aspx#ixzz4bS2CDGV3
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    Not really. They paid the same rate, as I'm certain Odumbass had invested income and interest of at least 70.701K.

    But I don't play chess with pigeons.
     
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  13. stumbler

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    I do have to laugh at the Trump supporters trying to make some point out of Trump supposedly paying a higher percentage on his $150 million from 10 years ago than Clinton, Sanders, and Obama did on their much smaller incomes last year.

    Fucking hilarious the levels the pigeons will stoop to.
     
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    1. shootersa
      Explain then how Obama's net worth of $1.3 Million in 2009 (the year he was elected) resulted in a tax rate of 19% when the tax rate was 35% for earnings over $372,951.

      You see, the Trump tax return for 2005 shows he paid 25% tax, when the average for his bracket that year was 23.5%.
      Obama on the other hand, paid 19% tax when the average that year for his bracket was 35%.

      You need to put away your bias and hate for all things Trump, and understand that the baubles being left about for you and yours to find are distractions for you to glare at while Trump gets on with his agenda. And Trump, for all his failings, is not stupid. Pompous, a gas bag, even a liar (he is after all a politician) but not stupid.

      You are being played. Quite nicely Shooter thinks.
       
      shootersa, Mar 16, 2017
    2. xxxaddict76
      @shootersa. You build net worth moron. President Obama did not earn $1.3 million in 2009.

      President Obama had a better tax person than President Dipshit.
       
      xxxaddict76, Mar 16, 2017
    3. shootersa
      No, President Obama didn't have earnings of $1.3 Million in 2009;
      During their time in the White House, the First Family's adjusted gross income has decreased from a high of more than $5.5 million in 2009 to $481,000 in 2013- largely, it appears, due to the decline in proceeds from the sales of the president's books.
      From an ABC News report.

      You really need to start using Google to do some fact checking on your own.
      And take off the blinders. Trump is playing a magnificent game of "Bauble bauble, who has the bauble".
      And the unsupporters are loosing.
       
      shootersa, Mar 16, 2017
  14. RandyKnight

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    I just saw Trump in an interview confirm what I said...he had 100 million tax sheltered so his
    income was 250 million which would be a 9% or better return on the 2.6 Billion net worth...

    That also means he did not pay 24% in taxes.....

    with 38 million taxes on the real income of 250 million....
    would be 15.2% tax over all.....

    3 fucking pages people...3 fucking pages.....

    the client copy can be many reasons I will not go into right now...
    whoever had it and turned it to the MadCow.....best hope they are not found...
     
  15. pussy in boots

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    If Shillary had claimed Trump had taped her phones, the Dems. would have had a cow. Just claiming that would be enough to launch a congressional investigation.
    It's the seriousness of the charges. Proof or not.
    Obama may not have ordered the taping. I will bet someone in his administration did.
     
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  16. xxxaddict76

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    Do not hate. President Obama has a really good tax person who knows what they are doing.

    Keep up those conspiracy theories.
     
  17. xxxaddict76

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    Yeah. The DOJ and FBI did. The reason why. The FBI was monitoring the phones of every Russian government official. Flynn, Manifort, Stone, and one other dipshit who's name escapes me called repeatedly these same Russian government officials who were being monitored. Something in those transcripts produced probable cause.

    That is part of why Flynn, Manifort, Stone, and the other stooge were fired.
     
    1. shootersa
      So. If DOJ and FBI were monitoring the phone calls of foreign government officials, and we know Trump staff were talking to foreign government officials, then it is apparent that Trump's phone calls were being monitored at the same time.

      So, which is it;
      either Trump staff weren't talking to foreign officials, and Trump's calls weren't monitored,
      OR
      Trump staff were talking to foreign officials, and Trump's calls were monitored, at least for those calls to foreign officials.

      Baubles. You people are still falling for shiny baubles.
       
      shootersa, Mar 16, 2017
    2. xxxaddict76
      @shootersa. Nope because President Dipshit probably did not speak personally to the FBI monitored Russians. Flynn, Manifort, Stone, and the other stooge did and thus were monitored. Perhaps there cell phone or that pesky server in Trump Tower connected to a Russian bank.

      Republicans came out today and said there was no wiretap or "wiretap" before or after the election in Trump Tower.

      Yet the Russian investigation continues.
       
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      xxxaddict76, Mar 16, 2017
    3. shootersa
      Well then, if there's no wiretap before or after the election then Trump's people, or Trump weren't talking to the Russians.

      Is this too complicated?
       
      shootersa, Mar 16, 2017
  18. pussy in boots

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    The DOT and FBI broke the law listening in on American citizens with out a Warrent. Then releasing transcripts of those conversations.
    Flynn was fired for lying to the Vice President. Not talking to a Russian ambassador. Something the Democrats did also.
     
  19. stumbler

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    Rachel Maddow just did an excellent job last night of pointing out why she didn't really over hype the release of even these two pages. And she dumped a ton of evidence of why Trump may have leaked this tax return himself. It makes him look good. It was one of his best years. Its also the year Trump Nation came out where he tried to sue the author for $2 billion because he wrote Trump was not really a billionaire. And Trump lost that law suit because even after a couple attempts he could not prove he was a billionaire.

    And probably most notable was this was also the tax return that Melania had to present to Immigration to become a citizen.

    Maddow also played several clips of people at town hall meetings telling Republicans Trump needs to release his taxes and the Republicans agreed. But then went back and voted against any and all bills that would force Trump to release his taxes.

    She then had a Democratic Congressman on who laid out their plans to make the Republicans vote on Trump's taxes everyday if that's what it takes.
     
    1. shootersa
      Ah.
      So, the Democrats will force votes on requiring Presidential candidates to release their tax returns.
      Kind of like the Republicans forced votes on ACA repeal.

      And STILL Democrats can't fathom why they lost.
       
      shootersa, Mar 16, 2017
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      Ah , now this is an interesting one;

      quote:
      And probably most notable was this was also the tax return that Melania had to present to Immigration to become a citizen.
      end quote:
      *


      I've often wondred why , with all Trump's anti immigrant angles and rants ,
      why no one ever raised the fact he's married to an import :)
      (and I mean wondering for over a year , long before he won)

      There are a few other things that came up two or so years ago , right as soon as he announced his candicy , that have never seemed to grab attention ,
      that surprised me.

      The above , may also be a clue as to where the leaked copy might have originated , and therefore , why that particular year was "leaked".
       
      slutwolf, Mar 16, 2017
    3. xxxaddict76
      @shootersa. Yet no repeal of ACA. Kept 1,942 pages and amended 58. Republicans doing a crack job.
       
      xxxaddict76, Mar 17, 2017
  20. xxxaddict76

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    There was a FISA warrant. The FISA judge found probable cause existed and approved the warrant.

    Sorry. Your parent or parents should have sat you down and really explained what a dumb cunt you are.
     
    1. shootersa
      Wait.
      So now there was monitoring.
      So Trump administration calls were monitored.

      Well?
      Which is it?
       
      shootersa, Mar 16, 2017
    2. xxxaddict76
      @shootersa. The FBI was monitoring and investigating all Russian government officials around the hacking of DNC and Clinton's campaign. During the review of transcripts the FBI found incoming calls from Manifort, Flynn, Stone, and the other stooge. The FBI with a FISA warrant started monitoring Manifort, Flynn, Stone, and the other stooge. Nobody said the calls made by the four above were from Trump Tower. The four used their cell phones. At the same time it was discovered there was a server in Trump Tower that was connected to a Russian bank under investigation by the FBI. FISA court issued a warrant to monitor the server.

      President Dipshit tweeted President Obama himself ordered phones at Trump Tower to be wiretapped. Sorry, "wire tapped." Today, the Congress and Senate stated there was no evidence President Obama ordered a wiretap of phones at Trump Tower. This situation is separate from the Russian hacking investigation.

      Dipshit.
       
      xxxaddict76, Mar 17, 2017