One year ago, on this day, Trump won the election.

How do you think he's doing?

 

No wall.
No Repeal of Obama Care.
No budget.
Twice as many executive orders.
Most of his cabinet tied into Mueller's investigation.
Probably had arthritis in his thumbs from too much tweeting.
Pushing us to within inches of nuclear war.

About like I figured.

 

I think he's doing good, all things considering....

Obama left the US a big mess along with a staggering massive US debt.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-step-on-trump-campaign-promise-idUSKBN1CT007

Nine months after President Donald Trump took office, the first tangible signs of progress on one of the central promises of his campaign have appeared along the U.S. border with Mexico.


Or, did you expect it to be completed on January 21st?

"Most of"? Really? Care to name them?

More like we'er being threatened by countries allowed to flourish, in the nuclear sense, by Blowbama.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/markaz/2017/10/09/preventing-iranian-nuclear-weapons-work/

WHAT IS SECTION T?
The argument centers on Section T of the JCPOA, which provides that Iran will not design, develop, acquire, or use computer models to simulate nuclear explosive devices, or multi-point explosive detonation systems suitable for a nuclear explosive device (unless approved by the Joint Commission), or explosive diagnostic systems (again, unless approved), or explosively driven neutron sources or specialized materials for explosively driven neutron sources.

Put in laymen’s terms, Iran essentially agreed to not engage in a variety of activities that would permit it to design and evaluate a nuclear warhead. As some of these activities also have limited non-nuclear weapons design applications, there is the possibility of specific permission being granted for individual cases. But, the general principle is that these activities are so intrinsically important for nuclear weapons that they ought to be prohibited outright. Notably, this section has no expiration and, as such, JCPOA proponents have often cited it as one of the ways in which the JCPOA will have salience even after primary nuclear restrictions ease 10 to 15 years after implementation began in 2016.

AMANO’S “ADMISSION”
Some, however, have questioned whether the IAEA has sufficient knowledge to enforce the terms of Section T, and a recent comment by Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) Yukiya Amano added fuel to the fire.

On September 26, Amano acknowledged in an interview with Reuters that, “our tools are limited” when it comes to verifying Section T. He went on to say: “In other sections, for example, Iran has committed to submit declarations, place their activities under safeguards or ensure access by us. But in Section T I don’t see any [such commitment].” He then suggested that this is an area where additional guidance from the Joint Commission (which is composed of the states that negotiated the JCPOA as well as Iran) would be appreciated.

Critics of the JCPOA have latched on to the comment, suggesting that it proves the inadequacy of the JCPOA to guard against Iran’s nuclear weapons program.

The most sober of these arguments is that, as Amano implied, it is difficult for the IAEA to carry out its responsibilities under Section T without a baseline declaration by the Iranians of the places in which any such equipment is being stored as well as the uses to which it is being applied. The argument flows that, if a declaration existed, the IAEA could visit the sites in question, confirm that they are not being used for nuclear weapons research, and inform JCPOA participants of its analysis. Others have gone farther, arguing that—taken in combination with generalized Iranian reluctance to provide access to its military sites—the Iranians could very well be working on nuclear weapons at this very time.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/17/world/asia/trump-north-korea-threat.html

Just month’s into President Barack Obama’s first term, the North detonated a series of nuclear bombs.

Rather than negotiate, Mr. Obama imposed a policy of “strategic patience,” hoping that through sanctions and espionage, the United States could wait out the isolated state.

Mr. Obama hoped that the North would eventually feel it had reason to negotiate and make a good-faith effort at talks. Instead the North pursued its weapons program and launched a series of cyberattacks on American businesses, including Sony Pictures.

Mr. Obama also talked tough with the North Koreans when he thought it necessary: In 2014, he warned that the United States “will not hesitate to use our military might” to protect American allies.

North Korea’s Response
It was during the Obama administration that Kim Jong-un, a grandson of the country’s founder, was named leader after the death of his father, Kim Jong-il. The youngest Mr. Kim quickly eliminated those who might challenge his leadership and began a program, using new technology, to develop an intercontinental missile.

The Americans initially hoped the young leader would represent a break from the hard-line policies of his predecessors, but instead he doubled down. In September 2016, he tested a nuclear warhead that he claimed could fit on a long-range missile.
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So much for your figuring.

 

Massive....from going into Iraq on GW's watch..... his dad and that war, was that a drop in the bucket? We are out of the housing crises.....

 

Please.
The wall samples are not a wall and Congress has not authorized $1 for its construction.
Campaign manager Manafort, strategic consultant Popadopolis, Secretary of defence
Flynn, senior advisor Don Jr., senior advisor Kushner, commerce Secretary Ross, and on, and on.
What Obama tried with Iran was working by all but the most partisan estimates, and could have worked in Korea, given any real attempt at diplomacy.
And a Twitter flame war does not qualify as diplomacy.

 

If you are worried about the US debt, you ain't seen nothing yet.

 

Don't forget those potholes.
You know ,
the ones he put around an airfield in Syria ,
at many tens of millions of dollars.

That was very impressive.

A bit like those border wall prototypes standing proud ,
showing Mexico what a marvelous investment opportunity it has missed out on


or are they the start of a white elephant collection

I have an idea.
He could build a wall out of coal , helping keep more great jobs ,
and to make it an ongoing benefit to the Great US ,
it could be set on fire .
A burning wall , so it keeps those jobs in perpetuity.

 

Debt wouldn't be such a bad thing if there was something to show for it....

 

About as good as one could expect considering both parties work against him.

Not that we voted for him believing he would be a good President, it was more a big fuck you to both parties by the American people.

 

We did not have much to show for the debt acquired by Reagan and George the Lesser but freshly minted millionaires.

 

Yearly deficits have risen since Trump took over.

 

What do we have to show for Trump's increase in the national debt?

 

Majority of that debt was and is for the most part the Covid economic stimulus checks and bailouts.

Before Covid-19 the US economy was roaring, unemployment was at a record low, and the border wall was being erected at around 10 miles a month.

Trump added more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs to the US economy before Covid-19.

The only thing Obama and Biden did was export US jobs and import illegal aliens....

 

Obama inherited the Great Recession from George the Lesser. Trump inherited a growing economy and ran it into the ground with his lame response to COVID-19. Right now the United States has the largest number of dead from COVID-19 in the world.

 

The Bush recession lasted 18 months, it started in early 2007 and ended in 2009. Not really a "Great Recession"...

Under Obama the federal debt doubled from $9.99 trillion at the end of 2008 to $19.95 trillion at the end of 2016.
All of this debt with nothing to show for it....

As for Obama's overall record, he overseen and presided over the worst economic growth of any President since Herbert Hoover.... He’s the only President since Hoover who did not have a single year that saw an annual growth of GDP (Gross Domestic Product) that reached or exceed three percent.

The unemployment rate under Obama remained high and averaged from 6-7 percent during his 8 years.

Trump beats Obama hands down on all three points I listed.....

 

the only President since Hoover who did not have a single year that saw an annual growth of GDP (Gross Domestic Product) that reached or exceed three percent.

- CS natureboy

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BBC News, September 23, 2020

During his first three years in office, President Trump oversaw an annual average growth of 2.5%.

The last three years of the Obama administration saw a similar level of growth (2.3%) along with a significantly higher figure (5.5%) in mid-2014...

Under Trump, in the three years prior to the pandemic, there were an additional 6.4 million jobs. In the last three years under Obama, seven million jobs were added...

The [unemployment] rate jumped to 14.7% in April, the highest level since the Great Depression of the 1930s.

The US Labor Department says more than 20 million people lost their jobs, eliminating a decade of employment gains in a single month...

Real wages (adjusted for inflation) grew throughout Trump's first three years in office - continuing a steady upward trend which began during the first of President Obama's two terms.

This growth reached 2.1% per annum in February 2019, prior to the pandemic.

This is lower than the real wage increases of up to 2.4% that President Obama oversaw in 2015

The rapid increase in average earnings then seen at the start of the coronavirus lockdown were largely as a consequence of the lowest-earning Americans losing their jobs at a disproportionate rate, following the economic downturn.

With lower wage-earners out of jobs, the average hourly wage data skewed sharply upwards.

 

Why the fuck did Clowndog resurrect this thread after almost THREE YEARS? There are plenty of current threads in which we can talk about this stuff.

Why? Because of this:

 

Insults and name calling are the lowest form of discourse.