Are they crazy? Maybe or yes.. are they blind? Yes. Are they in denial? Yes.
Only what you do really think of them.. discuss.

 

They in a way are like you and me. Their viewpoint is that what they believe is right is what is true, which may be disagreeable to the opposite side. However, the problem is that there must be more supporting evidence and sufficient points to support their claims. And the evidence is overwhelming against Trump's claims, but people feel that Trump is right and therefore Trump's reality is what is believed over fact. I believe that people should at least consider stepping back and objectively see how Trump's policies affects America and your own lives. Then see if the populist message is in your interest or actually hurting you.

 

Three kinds of people are in the dwindling minority that still supports Trump. There are the Deplorables. These are motivated by hatred for non whites, Jews, and liberals.

There are the Desperate Delusionals. These hope Trump can bring back the well paying factory and mine jobs that once provided them with decent incomes. The Desperate Delusionals dropped out of high school before they had the chance to learn that factory and mine jobs only became well paying because of Democratic economic reforms.

Finally, there are the Selfish Sane ones. These do not need the government for much. They look forward to the tax cuts they will probably get, exploding the national debt, which they only complain about when a Democrat is president.

 

that's correct, the majority felt Obama was right President for America, and it was proven correct. sadly, other majority hates black men in power. so they were believing that only whites should be in power, not blacks. nor any other race. it's morally wrong to think that way. anybody can be president as long they are committed to tell the difference from wrong. America was founded on Liberty and Freedom. the right to serve our country.

 

We are NOT like Cassandra. That's an insult to Trump supporters everywhere.

 

Don't be so hard on them, most of them still think you can plant a seed and grow "ground" beef LMAO.

 

People found out letting affirmative action chose our president is a disaster.
It takes more than skin color to make a great president.
Obama will go down in history much like Carter.
Every day we see something Obama gave us go down.
Soon there will be little to remind us of the great mistake Americans made.
Maybe that will be how Obama is remembered in history, The Great Mistake.

 

Actually its not all their fault. As multiple scientific studies have confirmed now conservatives tend to be fear based in their thinking which causes them to operate with emotionally based thinking that impedes their ability to think reasonably, logically, and rationally. And our little forum here is a case study in that. It is virtually impossible for the PR hacks and their many many socks, the Trump supporters, and the plastic bubble dwellers to actually hold a fact based discussion using actual sources. Instead they constantly post things that can be debunked with a 30 second qoogle search, refuse to answer simple straightforward questions, contend the entire mainstream media is fake news, and then turn vicious devolving into personal attacks and simply repeating the same things over and over again. As well as constantly pushing bigoted themes, calling for violence and revolution, and constantly lying. With the overriding theme always pushing false right wing propaganda hot off the pro-Trump PR shops that also don't stand up to any scrutiny. While also constantly trying to change the subject from any criticism of Trump by constantly reverting back to trying to demonize Hillary Clinton, President Obama, liberals and democrats. Which all stems directly from fear based thinking.

And no one has to take my world for it. Anyone including them can just look at this forum on a daily basis and know what I am saying is true.

 

And this is a perfect example of what I was saying. Not one thing in this has any basis in reality and is actually just repeating the same lies that have been proven to be lies over and over again. President Obama inherited the nation in economic collapse and kept the country from falling into another Great Depression. There were 75 consecutive months of job growth under President Obama and the unemployment rate fell from a high of about 10% to full employment at little over 4% and created 11.3 million jobs. President Obama inherited a trillion dollar budget deficit from President Bush and cut federal spending at the highest rate in 60 years. The stock market increased 235% during President Obama's two terms. And President Obama left office with a 60% approval rating. And those are all simple facts that anyone can look up for themselves. Because those are the actual facts.

And of course aside from telling all these stupid lies notice @msmn also this to interject his racism into this. Hitting every single point I noted above.

So watch none of the PR hacks and their many many socks, the Trumop supporters, the pathological liars, and the plastic bubble dwellers will be able to dispute those facts so they will have to resort to things like but food stamps, but low wage jobs, when they refulse to allow increases in the minimum wages, and decline in manufacturing jobs that has actually been happening for close to 40 years.

But they will not be able to deal with real and simple facts.

 

Did someone mention socks? I just ordered these off of Amazon.

 

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The butt hurt arrogant left continues to shout out "DEPLORABLES" and demonize all things Trump.
Meanwhile, they have failed to win a single election since before November 9th, even when they blatantly attempt to buy them.
And still they do not understand why they lose.

One definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over and expect a different result.
Shooter wonders; will Democrats figure it out before 2018?

 

When I see someone accept something that is patently false, I have to decide whether they are gullible and stupid, or duplicitous. After watching Trump supporters over the past year or so, I've decided it's a mixture of the three.

I have an old friend who is an ardent Trump supporter. He knows my politics, but tolerates it because I lend him money when his disability check runs short at the end of the month. Last Saturday, he dropped by to borrow $20. We've had a few officer involved shootings in my city. The last one was a half a block from my front door. It was a fairly righteous affair. A man got out of a car, holding a pistol. He was shot dead.

My friend says, "Did you hear what the Mayor said?" Our new Mayor is a black woman. "She was in a store behind a policeman, who was buying sliced ham. She says, 'Look at this, a pig buying pig.'

I still had the $20 in my hand, and said, "Do you really believe that happened? I promise you, on this twenty dollar bill, that never happened and I'm surprised you believe it and even more surprised you'd repeat it."

I could see by the look on his face, it was the first time anyone ever challenged the story, and even he could see how preposterous it was. He still believes Trump and the Republicans are not going to cut his Medicaid.

 

Ok I rest my case on this one as far as not being able to deal with actual facts and try and change the subject

If what you are saying here is true surely you can post some actual recent examples. And if you can't you will be caught lying again.

Now let me show you why and how you are lying again shootersa.

de·mon·ize
ˈdēməˌnīz/
verb
verb: demonize; 3rd person present: demonizes; past tense: demonized; past participle: demonized; gerund or present participle: demonizing; verb: demonise; 3rd person present: demonises; past tense: demonised; past participle: demonised; gerund or present participle: demonising
portray as wicked and threatening.

Now the reality is that this is actually what the right tried to do to President Obama. Claiming he wasn't even born in the US. Depicting him as an African witch doctor. Claiming he only got into college through affirmative action. Claiming he is a secret Muslim. Claiming he is a socialist. Which were all lies.

While what is happening to Trump is simply reporting on the actual disaster his presidency has been so far. Documenting his constant lies. Pointing very real concerns about his mental health. And reporting on the investigations into Russian interference in our elections which is a proven fact, investigating possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, investigating Trump's possible obstruction of justice and any possible connections to Trump's possilbe connections to Russian money.


None of those are efforts to lie about Trump in order to try and demonize him. Those are all facts that are being investigated by several bi-partisan congressional committees, the US intelligence community, a special counsel, and at least two grand juries that we know of.

So what you said here is just another one of your lies.

Well we will have to see. The Democrats have definitely had trouble defeating Republicans in gerrymandered GOP strong holds in places where seats have been in GOP hands for decades. But Democrats are reducing those races to single digits in places where Republicans are used to winning by as many as 20 points. So the Democrats are definitely making huge progress and will have to see if that can be maintained and buiilt on in 2018. But we do have the truth on our side.