Including Rand Paul and Ted Cruz ...

Did I mention that Trump is an asshat ???

Discuss ???

 

I like the part that allows Americans to opt out of it. I also like allowing the States to decide on what Medicaid will cover in each state. People forget that health insurance is not a right in this country. It's a benefit that is available to anyone who wishes to purchase it.

 

I have no problem with universal healthcare. My concern is who pays for it. Insurance companies aren't going to lower their premiums despite what the POTUS thinks. The only choice would be a tax increase for everyone.

 

I wonder if the security in the Congress felt like hero's dragging handicapped people off like animals including dragging a woman in a wheelchair away BY HER LEGS ... WTF is up with that shit people ???

 

Like I said before this is just another way to "defund" medicaid and save over 800 billion over the next decade and put that burden on the States.

 

They took her out of her wheelchair first. Let's be clear about that.

Did anyone see the 400 pound lady in her electric scooter complaining? Sad.

 

They need to flip 2 of the 4 holdouts so I will be curious how much cock sucking will be going on in Congress over the next few days ???

RK and Smith, get your kneepads and go fix this LMAO. Take M4M with you he is into that shit lol.

 

Hey bro, are you feeling left out since I rarely include you in that Trumpeteer clan lol ???

That scooter is getting a workout all right.

 

Mitch McConnell needs to retire ...

 

So I wonder how everyone would feel if we kept the ability for people to select their own plan, what coverage they wanted, but dropped the government tax dollars subsidies and made it voluntary? I would imagine that people would be able to get coverage for less than they could on their own. If they decide they can't afford it they have the option of dropping out.

 

The problem with the old "Who's gonna pay for it?" question is that we are already paying for it. This isn't Calcutta, where people die in the gutter.(Do they still do it that way, or has India developed a modern healthcare system?).

What we are buying is the most expensive form of healthcare, the too little, too late, school of medicine. Instead of a Doctor checking someone at least once a year, we'll wait until diabetes has destroyed their vascular system and a leg has to be amputated. Guess who pays for that? Then our one legged patient is in a nursing home. Guess who is paying for that? I'm sure you know. There was a time when advanced diabetes was a death sentence. Two or three years at the max.

This "Who's gonna pay for it?" doesn't wash anymore, in an age where once we get a once legged man in a nursing home, he can live for decades on the public dime. Just think of all the toothless meth heads we'll be feeding and housing over the next 30 years.

On the other hand, some lab work and some meds, might have kept this guy wearing out two shoes at a time, instead of the batteries in his wheelchair. That's a taxpayer at work, instead of a tax burden.

Unfortunately, our current crop of conservatives have this weird idea that forcing poor people to suffer will make them hate being poor so much, they'll go find a job and be able to afford to pay for healthcare. In pursuit of this bizarre bit of social engineering, they're willing to make like harder for themselves and everyone else. You can't tell them that. As long as they can't see a poor person consumes tax benefits, but doesn't really get any benefit from it, they're okay with it.

That's the funny part about it. While a conservative puffs up his chest and sneers, "Who's gonna pay for it?" Uncle Sam has a hand in the guy's pocket and smiling all the time.

 

my wife and I have to use covered califuckyou as the ins. from where I work is close to $500 a month for 2 people. that being said my wife is trying to get a job at a child care center on the same Navel Air Station I work on ( Navy Exchange) so she goes to the base hospital to get blood work piss test a whole slew of test they ask for her ins. card so she gives them her covered califuckyou (Blue Shield) card and they turn around and tell her they DO NOT ACCEPT that ins. so someone please tell me again how great Obamacare is if even the freaking Navy don't accept it......

 

That's what my premiums were in January just for me. I dropped it until I got covered through my job. I have the same coverage but it's half the cost.

 

Keeping obamacare for a while longer could be quite good, politically. After watching it continue in its death spiral, it will be easier to get something that works passed.

 

Why is it okay for the government to spend trillions of your tax dollars on defending you and killing others....... But you scream blue murder and socialism when they want to help you with your health?.

If it's up to the individual to keep themselves healthy then isn't it also up to the individual to keep themselves safe?.

 

@Jdbfromnj

Really??? So you carry a gun with you on the train, at the office, and in Uber cars in New Jersey and New York? How does that work?

 

Will TrumpCare pay for a jaw transplant for Mitch McConnell? He looks and sounds as though he can only eat mashed potatoes sucked up through a straw. A chinless wonder!

 

Lets face it, half of us are SUCKERS. Most of us have been complaining about how crooked politicians are. How they always claim to be looking out for the average Joe and Jill, but actually only look out for themselves by taking care of their big campaign contributors. They all get rich off your back and you bitch and moan about them. We finally get a non politician, one that didn't take huge contributions from mega corporations, lawyers, doctors, etc and that really frightened all those mega rich fat cats. So they are doing their best to get rid of this guy, and at least half of us remain SUCKERS and help these mega rich fuckers out! It's unbelievable I tell you. Ol' PT Barnum sure knew what he was talking about... one born every minute. Pretty damn sad...

 

Nonsense........the Chump is making more money out of being in office than any crook/president before him.............this is further exacerbated by his incompetence and the incompetence of those around him. He is a lying, corrupt, loudmouthed, gasbag, and will be revealed as such just as soon as one of his spineless apparatchiks breaks ranks or the FBI finally grows some balls!

Thinskin

 

Well, but his 2017 tax returns aren't even due until April 15, 2018.
Thinskin says President Trump is making more money out of being in office than any crook/president before him...........
So, shooter wants to know, exactly how much has he made so far? And which President is second, and how much did he make in the first 5 months he was in office?