Well played!

 

Bartender, how much for the bottle?

I've been saying all along they're looking at this TSA thing all wrong. This flying.

 

and we haven even started with the whole make sure you push all the right buttons before take off and any mention about this large cockpit

 

Very good points the Fox, This is a veritable adult playground. Too bad so many adults are dried up old prudes.

 

It's also too bad that you probably would be relegated to spectator and/or gofer, if Fox and Kimi were in the same room with you.

 

Really, SMC? I think it's time you had a break from this site if everywhere you look makes you think of pedo's. It would never cross my mind to think that, what is essentially an xray, would get someone off. You sick puppy!

I really don't see the connection here. Well not if we're still talking about the scanner.

I'm with you, Fox. The paranoia is astounding.

Oh, dear...

Lets get this in perspective. With the shit you are willing to do, e.g. animals and kids, you think others should be upset at having their dicks 'seen' on a scanner. Wow, really?

I'm pretty sure no one would be upset at the fact you don't respect them. In my eyes that would be a compliment.

 

admin on November 22, 2010

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The TSA’s notoriously bad behavior is quickly becoming the biggest hot-button topic in America since the first round of gay marriages took place several years ago, and for good reason. The people employed by the Transportation Security Administration, commonly referred to as “agents,” as though they were educated professionals such as the men and women deployed by the FBI, are all-too-often little more than minimum-wage thugs. They frequently harass innocent travelers, leaving them feeling insulted, molested, humiliated and degraded past the point that any law-abiding citizen should have to endure. Nearly anyone who has gone through an airport security gate in the last decade will likely have stories of overly-rude TSA workers, or worse, but these are 10 truly outrageous instances where the TSA has simply gone too far. 


Bladder cancer survivor left covered in urine

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Thomas Sawyer, a 61-year-old survivor of bladder cancer, was humiliated beyond belief when he tried to board his flight at Detroit International earlier this month. He is unfortunate enough to require the use of a urostomy bag, which must have shown up on the scanner. He was pulled aside for the TSA’s new “enhanced” pat-down, at which point he tried to tell the screeners about his condition and the apparatus. They cut him off, saying that they didn’t need to know about his issues. His pants, which were sized larger to make it easier for him to wear the bag, fell down around his ankles since they had made him take off his belt to walk through the detectors the first time around. He had to ask twice before they would allow him to pull them up. They then made him take his sweatshirt off, at which point he again told them about the delicate bag of urine that was under his clothing — but they didn’t listen. A screener ruptured the bag with his hand, causing it to begin dribbling and spilling Mr. Sawyer’s own urine down his shirt, groin and pants. Sawyer was reduced to tears as he was forced to make his way through the terminal and onto the plane before he could clean himself up and change clothes.


Woman forced to remove nipple ring with pliers

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doesnt bother me much and i fly monthly.

what bothers me is when tsa agents decide to not look at the screens when luggage is going through the scanner, i have seen this first hand.

in addition i have had numerous items go through security and they have not been caught - now that is scary.

 

Mandi Hamlin was trying to pass through a security gate at an airport in Lubbock, Texas back in 2008, when she was stopped by a female screener with a hand-held metal detector. Though Mandi had no trouble passing through the larger metal detector, the screener’s wand unit chimed when passing over her breasts — where she had nipple-piercings. Instead of handling the small issue on her own, the female screener called over several of her male counterparts, who then insisted that Mandi remove her nipple rings. Mandi asked if she could simply show them to the female screener in private, but was refused the option. Flustered, she managed to get one piercing out (it was bar-shaped), but she couldn’t get the other, which was ring-shaped. She said she wouldn’t be successful without pliers, and pled again for the female to simply examine her. They gave her pliers. Crying, she worked the ring loose and removed it, but she could hear the male screeners giggling and joking about it on the other side of the curtain that acted as her only means of privacy. She was then allowed to proceed — never being asked about the belly-button ring she was also wearing at the time. The flight wasn’t even international, in fact she wasn’t even leaving the state; it was a hopper to Dallas.


A 3-year-old’s pat-down


Steve Simon was with his wife and daughter at an airport in Chattanooga, Tennessee, when he, a television reporter, found himself in a situation that demanded the use of his camera phone. His 3-year-old daughter, Mandy, began crying when they had to put her teddy bear through the X-ray scanner. She was so upset that she kept setting off the metal detector, so after the second time through, a TSA screener decided to judiciously follow through with procedures written with suspicious adults in mind — two failed detector walkthroughs mandates a pat-down. The screener’s groping hands forced the already terrorized young girl to panic more, and her father’s phone managed to record nearly 20 seconds of frenzied screaming. At one point, you can clearly hear the little girl cry for the screener to “stop touching” her. Her mother was not able to calm her down, since the scary stranger wouldn’t stop feeling her body, something her parents had no doubt told her to never allow a stranger to do. Steve took it all quite well, but most fathers wouldn’t be so gracious.


Left with pants down due to knee implant


Leaving people with their pants down seems to be a favorite activity amongst TSA screeners. Robert Perry, a 71-year-old man with a knee replacement, was ordered into the very open and public inspection area by one of them and barked at when he set off the metal detectors. Perry had tried explaining the situation with his knee to the man, but was only yelled at to take his belt off. When the screener went to feel the knee, he did it so roughly that he jerked the pants right off, leaving Perry looking like an idiot in his underwear for all to see. Perry immediately, and rightly, asked to see a supervisor. The supervisor, a woman, was worse than the screener. Perry, in a news interview, reenacted that supervisor’s gorilla-like display of superiority as he mimicked her, beating his chest and repeating the words “I have power.” Perry and his wife were threatened with losing their flight, and they were only trying to take a vacation for the 50th wedding anniversary.


Security leaves woman roughed up


Back in 2007, Robin Kassner was trying to take a flight out of Reagan National Airport when she was physically assaulted by a mixed group of TSA screeners and Airport police — over a bottle of contact lens cleaner. As can be seen in the airport’s own security footage, they grabbed Kassner by the arms, jerked them behind her, then pulled her several feet, slamming her onto the ground (and displacing furniture in the process), all seemingly for no reason at all. Kassner recalls thinking something along the lines of “oh God, I’m being beaten up, and I don’t even know why.” That wasn’t the end of it, either. After they picked her up and returned her to the standing-height inspection table, Kassner’s head was slammed into it, hard enough to give her a concussion and possibly permanent brain damage. Kassner was locked up in a holding cell and later released to be charged with obstruction of justice, but she was able to use the footage in a 10 million dollar lawsuit against the airport.


Singled out, cuffed, boarding pass destroyed


Meg McLain recently experienced just what happens when one decides to opt-out of the x-ray scan, and object to the groping-laden pat-down that follows such an opt-out. She was surrounded by TSA screeners and airport police, shuffled off-camera in the inspection area to be harassed, and finally forced to sit in a chair and watch as an egomaniacal TSA screener ripped her ticket in half right in front of her before having security grab her and escort her out of the airport. She was unable to get a refund for the flight, and even worse, found herself stranded since the boarding pass itself had been destroyed (and the airline would not replace it).


Arrested over applesauce


58-year-old Nadine Hays was arrested, charged with battery, handcuffed, and strip searched back in 2009 over applesauce. It wasn’t a case of applesauce being in a container that could be misconstrued as a bomb, nor was it a case of Nadine acting suspicious about her foodstuffs. Nadine was traveling with her wheelchair-bound, 93-year-old mother, and she had fully explained to the TSA screeners that the applesauce was required to feed her ailing mother, and necessary for medication to be given as well. There was also a third, younger woman with them, a full-time caretaker, who was able to vouch for Nadine. While the screener was trying to steal Nadine’s applesauce, her cohorts were barking at the caretaker to stand back, while they took their time scaring and fondling Nadine’s senile, old and confused mother off-camera. Video footage proves that both TSA and airport security lied, heavily, throughout their reports. It took a full year, but Nadine got the case against her dropped — but her mother had already died by then.


Breast cancer survivor forced to show prosthetic breast


A woman being forced to pull a nipple ring out with pliers is bad; an old man forced to walk through an airport drenched in his own urine is possibly worse, but they may pale in comparison to TSA screeners actually forcing a breast cancer survivor to remove a prosthetic breast and show it to them. Cathy Bossi, a flight attendant of 32 years, was on her way to work when this happened to her. She, like many other flight attendants and pilots, opted out of the X-ray scan because daily use of such a machine would mean daily doses of radiation. She wasn’t trying to make a statement, and she certainly wasn’t trying to hide anything. She’s not alone, either. There are more stories cropping up, every day, about the TSA humiliating women who have breast prostheses. 


8-year-old on TSA’s watch list

It was mildly entertaining and only somewhat inconvenient the first time Mikey Hicks and his family were stopped at the airport terminal and told that their son was on the terrorist watch-list. He was 2 years old at the time, and his parents thought that it would not happen a second time, since incidents like that must go on record, right? Over time, it grew less funny. Early this year, Mikey and his family were making a trip to the Bahamas for a vacation. Mikey, now 8 years old, was stopped again. The TSA screeners, apparently literate enough to read the no-fly list and see that young Mikey had the same name as one of the entries, subjected the 8-year-old boy to a frisking. On his way back home, he was put through an even more aggressive pat-down. The boy doesn’t understand why anyone would think he’s a terrorist, but he took it all with a grain of salt. His parents, on the other hand, weren’t as understanding. The TSA holds that its people were doing a wonderful job, protecting the world from terrorists, and that there are no children on the no-fly list.

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4-year-old forced to remove — and walk without — his leg braces


Quite possibly the worst offense on this list, a police officer in New Jersey took his family to the airport to take a trip to Disney World. His son, a developmentally-disabled 4-year-old who could not walk without leg braces, was helped through the metal detector by his mother. The alarm went off. The TSA screener, who obviously saw the boy as a threat to national security, said that he must take the braces off — and walk through the detector on his own. TSA’s own regulations state that this is not the case. The boy’s parent’s tried to plead with the screener, but he would hear nothing of it. He insisted that their son, whose leg muscles weren’t strong enough to support him, walk through the detector under his own power. When the boy’s father, now absolutely furious, demanded a supervisor. The screener’s gruff answer when confronted by the father personally was “you know why we do this,” implying that his being a police officer meant that he should think it was perfectly OK to force a handicapped toddler to do parlor tricks for a power-tripping security guard.


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Not even YOU believe that tenguy.:excited:

The Fox ever tried shrooms?

 

The main problem with the whole thing is that here you have a lot of people doing security, that have no real formal training themselves (this comes from a friend of mine who is a security services agent). I mean they get some, but they are not mentally screened, like police and other officers are, thus you get the power tripping folks in there, and or the 100% by the book types, they do and will not think rationally for themselves, hell we all know the government does not encourage this.

This is not in defense of the agents(well maybe a little), but not all are the lunatics shown on the web. My neighbors niece is a TSA agent and is currently on suspension because she refused to lift an old woman out of her wheelchair, who was blind and pretty much senile and search her under her dress. They wanted her to lift the woman, place her face down on a table and search her. She refused and more than likely will be fired.

He also sent me this from an article which catches some of the other side of view (which I think is only fair to hear) I mean hell a lot of folks traveling are no fucking prize either. I mean we all have had some smelly or just nasty ass person or sick person sit next to and or near us on a flight.:

From :The Lookout" There is a series horror stories like those shown, but it does touch on the other side, which in all fairness I think we have to take into consideration too.

Perhaps the biggest losers in all of this are the actual TSA agents, who are thrust in the front lines of the current uproar -- and who complain that this high-profile public ostracism isn't exactly what they signed up for. In addition to the usual rigors of security screening -- which, as CNN notes in a dispatch today, involves everything from chasing cats through terminals to snatching babies off of X-ray-machine conveyor belts, TSA agents are being forced to grope people they'd very much prefer not to touch in their private lives.

The travel blog Flying With Fish gathered opinions from 17 different TSA agents on the recent furor, and judging by their responses, they seem to be among the people most put off by the whole mess.

"It is not comfortable to come to work knowing full well that my hands will be feeling another man's private parts, their butt, their inner thigh," wrote one male agent. "Even worse is having to try and feel inside the flab rolls of obese passengers, and we seem to get a lot of obese passengers!" Another added that most of the travelers the agency deals with "have a problem understanding what personal hygiene is."


In short: Thanks a lot, bin Laden!

(Photo: AP/Ted S. Warren)

 

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
...Benjamin Franklin

 

If I throw in a cheeseburger can I stick it in your ear?

 

Bothered by the principle, but it wont change how i travel

 

How about you Incubus? Have you ever wasted shrooms?

 

Likely the only orifice on her that would make you feel like a real boy, Pinocchio!

 

Ok, sorry to get back at this so late, I was already off line yesterday and I see that the derailment of the thread went into new and better ways, so just a quick answer.

What are you trying to say here?

1. It is evident that the protesters chanting "Death to America", burning USA flags and the pictures of any current president are not hateful because of some historic grudge the "Middle East" is holding against the West - they do hate the rest of the West occasionally - especially when it allies with the No.1 bad guy in their eyes - the USA
Should we loose more time on this apparent truth - easily observable in literature and media (including official statements, video recordings of protests, actual wars happening, etc.)

2. NATO is indeed viewed many times as an instruments in USA hands - how can you try to dispute that too well known fact? And - even more important - a lot of times a very particular formulation is used in the media and official statements "US led NATO operation" - it is clear to all what this is then, right? And especially to those at whom this operation is aimed at - they know who their archenemy is...

And some random sources:

http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/nato_expansion_more_muscle_u_s_flex

http://www.globalissues.org/article/125/the-need-for-nato

http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf&AD=ADA432425

http://www.mail-archive.com/news@antic.org/msg08774.html

http://english.pravda.ru/world/europe/20-10-2009/110008-france_nato-0/

And this is only a fraction - how can you say that NATO is not viewed as - "USA led", "USA dominated", "serving USA interests", etc., etc. ,when left and right, East and West - everyone is noticing that...

Now, maybe I was not precise enough when I simply wrote than in popular people's perception (and also activist and official) NATO=USA.

I am not saying it is good that it is like that - I am saying - it IS like that.

 

"Directly...sort of." I don't think those two terms can ever go together.

If you mean I assume that the danger comes mainly from those of Muslim heritage...well yes, I am duty bound by the fact of history and the present to assume exactly that

I agree, but now you have harassment of all Americans, including those who do not even fit into the "profile." I don't think that's any better.

You're right about it being democratic. But it is dangerous to prefer that bad things affect more people thinking it will somehow balance out the evil deed rather than simply increase its influence.

Were I an evil mastermind I would leave off with the planes as they are too obvious now. I would wait for a crowd at anything like a theater, or a stadium, or a New Years bash in new york; at which point me and however many others I had with me would go through the crowd pricking people with aids covered hypodermic needles. With that many people bumping into each other the small pinch will hardly be noticed and after reports begin surfacing on the news people would be afraid to go anywhere with a crowd anymore and the well being of the country would take a major hit.

 

I flew 2 months after 9/11. I was scared to death. In one of the airports, there were soldiers with guns. I saw security take the head off a child's doll (she did not see that) to check the cavity. I saw them feel the diapers in a diaper bag. Guess what, this was a family who was white.

When I flew to Scotland last year, I went through a scanner in the US - I never saw one in the 3 other countries. It didn't bother me to go through it, because I believe they are doing it for the safety of all.

I'm traveling at Christmas this year. Security will be heightened because of all the holiday travelers. They want me to go through a scanner - no problem. They want to pat me down? Well, I might ask their reasoning behind the search. I honestly won't know my reaction until I am in that situation. I do believe it's not being down to invade my privacy - but to protect.