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  1. stumbler

    stumbler Porn Star

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    NYT: Video contradicts Trump admin claim that Maduro burned aid to Venezuela

    https://thehill.com/policy/internat...mp-admin-claim-maduro-burned-aid-to-venezuela
     
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    Bitsman Marquis de Sade

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    Love these posts... Here are the FACTS.. Maduro has raped and pillaged his country from day one... How is it possible for a member country of OPEC to experience nation wide power failures?... He has looted the Treasury... cares nothing for the people of his country... Is this new guy any better?.. I have no freakin clue.. He is also a Socialist.. So chances are probably not. I am in no way an advocate for direct military intervention by the US armed forces... If the people want things to change THEY will need to do it themselves...Yes.. Lots and lots and lots will die... Things are not going to change until the Venezuelan Military says its time for a change to happen....
     
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      Easily, the power grids are all controlled by US designed computer systems. Hack it and shut it down as the US has done in other nations in the past. Maduro had turned the oil in the nation to provide or the people while the rest of the OPEC nations have used it to create oligarchies. Guiado is a US backed puppet that was NOT EVER ELECTED AS PRESIDENT OVER A MAN THAT HAD OVER 80% of the vote. And Venezuela is what the US looks at as socialist and only because the government supports the people and not the system in the US where the poor pay for the government to benefit the elites.
       
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      OK... Bro... Trust me here... TIME TO TAKE OFF THE TIN FOIL HAT....
       
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      Have you ever talked to anyone in Venezuela? Ever looked beyond the US news media? I have and so far most of those against Maduro are not from Venezuela.
       
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      STUMBLES would like this . SIR I said it once and it said it twice you need better resources
       
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      Like your non-existent ones?
       
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    Bitsman Marquis de Sade

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    Actually... Never done any of this.. Certainly do not buy what a read or hear on the news... They are all liars.... I DONT FREAKIN CARE IF EVERY PERSON IN THAT BASS_AK_WARD COUNTRY DIES A HORRIFIC DEATH.... Thats the gods honest truth... It does not effect me in any way... You bleeding heart, Save the world D-Bags will never get the world you desire... Its guys like ME... OLD WHITE BASTARDS will see to it... Sucks,, well freakin deal with it... Mommy aint around to tuck you in and nurse you anymore....
     
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      And so far all you have done is prove to be a punk little pussy alt like Trumpies everywhere that run when confronted with the truth. Did you bother to accept the fact that Venezuela has done more to help the POOR IN THE US THAN THE US HAS? But good luck in being a corporate sell out loser like the rest of your ilk you fucking"I didn't serve because there was no war" PUSSIES.
       
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      Apparently Bitsman’s never been outside the US. :rolleyes:
       
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      You don't have to leave the USA to know what goes on outside it . we have freedom of speech and plenty of ways to get information . that obviously other countries don't have
       
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      Um. No. The United States is far from ‘the most’ in those categories.

      Free? Depending on your definition, maybe it’s in the top 10? Accepting? Depends who you are and where you come from. Open? Not even fucking close.

      Look, it’s pretty great, or it has been. Eventually, I believe it can be again, with the right leadership.

      But this trope that America leads the world in those things listed above? No. Not by a long shot.
       
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      The US has a total of 6 media outlets, that is all media, television news, magazines, radio, everything media. So much for free speech.
       
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  5. Distant Lover

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    When the United States intervenes in the internal affairs of other countries it makes bad situations worse. We did this in Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq. Now we are doing it in Venezuela.

    In Iran in 1953 we made a good situation horrible when the CIA orchestrated the overthrow of a democratic government and the installation of the Shah of Iran as an absolute monarch.
     
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      We covered this before. It was the British, butt hurt because Iran nationalized their oil fields, who overthrew the Iranian government. The US went along, reluctantly, because the Brits asked them for help.

      And then the Brits and US propped up the Shah's government because we wanted the oil. But, when the shit finally hit the fan, the US (Thank you President Carter) turned a blind eye to the Shah and threw him under the bus.

      Now, this is all ancient history, which we need to pay attention to, and which we need to get right when we refer to it, but in the end, it is ancient history.
       
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  6. Bitsman

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    To a large degree very true... I contend that if the choice is made to intervene.... No holds bar.... Identify the enemy... ANNIHILATE that enemy... No mercy... Grant no quarter.... Yes.. Innocent people will die.. War anit pretty... It happens....
     
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      AND GET MILLIONS OD INNOCENTS KILLED TO SATE THE US DESIRE FOR WAR AT ALL TIMES TO JUSTIFY MASSIVE MILITARY BUDGETS THAT ONLY SERVE TO BENEFIT THE RICH WHILE THE POOR DIE.
       
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      your point?
       
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      When the day comes that you volunteer your child, yourself, the children of the wealthy class and of the politicians to be the first into battle, then and only then will your cry for the release of the hounds, the dogs of war be heard. You are willing to send to slaughter those who are not your own, you are willing to kill off what you see as the sacrificial few, though you yourself shy from offering yourself or your children as the first to be the lambs of servitude.
       
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      O Boy
       
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    Truthful 1 coal fired windmills Banned!

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    Lol. That was good Suzie . You got by an inch . .................
    i did change that to Sexy Suzie after I looked at your Avatar. After many months . My bad
     
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  8. shootersa

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    Kay. So, Bitsman rants that military service members don't deserve our thanks, cause, you know, all they did was apply for a job.
    TWAT
    The difference is that every person joining the military pledges that they will sacrifice their life in defense of their country. They accept long periods away from family and friends, sometimes horrendous conditions, and the realization that death or disability is may be in their future. And they have nothing to say about when, or where, or why they fight. They don't get a vote. Their opinions are irrelevant, and can even get them jailed if they express the "wrong" opinion and act on it.

    The key difference, you see, is that service in the military is service to country. Service to the rest of us who, for whatever reason, do not serve. To a fundamental belief in our country, our government, our society. A belief they are prepared to fight and die for.

    Any citizen, whether they served or not, who cannot fathom the ideals of military service needs to sit the fuck down, shut the fuck up, and give thanks to whatever God or deity they worship that there are citizens willing to serve.
    Citizens willing to fight for the right to spew nonsense, complain about government, and generally be whiny unthankful bitches.
    FUCKING TWAT
     
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  9. Truthful 1

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    I think Bitsman was responding to SIR . SIR is the greatest military hero since Audi Murphy . Just ask him .
    Yes he served in the military . i give him credit for that . Joining the military just to get free college . Is different then signing up To actually serve in the military.
     
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      You know, I disagree with you more often than not and have come to expect that. Not much surprises me coming from you.

      But this? I mean, seriously?

      You figure your armed forces sort people by enlistment motivation when deciding deployments?

      I mean, jeeeeezus. This is just plain ignorant, T1.

      You tell us; how is it different, signing up for free college and signing up to serve?
       
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      I remember all the people signing up for free college and then being very disappointed when they were sent overseas . Sorry. Theres more to it then that. Nowadays they have a different approach of getting people to sign up for military in high school nowa days ...having two kids in school and I'm a parent who pays attention and goes to every meeting . I see what goes on . first hand . they still promote education would they go much further into detail now . Make you folks no that the military is no joke . Oh and let me Remind you subby you are from Canada not the United states . Now who is the ignorant one . Just kidding ., dont get mad
       
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      Might be I know more about this than you think, Jersey. Never assume. ;)

      So the service of those that enlist to pursue education is somehow less-than, as compared to someone who enlisted to, say, go and kick some ass in some foreign country?

      I am failing to grasp the finer points of your argument.

      Please explain.
       
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  10. Bitsman

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    Yes.. Military service is deserving or respect.. even admiration.. to a certain extent.... I just dont find it necessary to thank those that have made the personal choice to do so. Like it or not.. It is JUST A JOB. Like all jobs there are certain risks one takes. A Marine attached to the 1st Expeditionary Force out of Camp Pendleton is at a far greater risk to his/her life then say a cook on the USS Ronald Reagan or that Airman that mans a silo outside Omaha ( Do they still do that?). IT would appear now that just putting on a uniform (military,police,fire fighter) you somehow are transformed into some kind of mythical heroic entity that should lavished with praise.... Sorry sweet cheeks shit dont work like that.

    Guess what... You made a personal choice to join the armed forces... I had nothing to do with it... I have no doubt the reasons you had for doing so felt correct to you. Part of that service is protecting the right of FUCKING TWATS like me to say and think what I do... Dont like it.. FUCK YOU COCKSUCKER... Deal with it....
     
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      Bits really I get what your saying but maybe you a little overboard . I thank everyone who has served for what ever reason they joined . Your brutal . You got to be kidding right .
       
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      Kidding... Not in the least.... For years and years now. Ever since Gulf War 1.0, Those of us who love out country just as much as anyone who makes the personal choice to join the armed forces have been made to feel we love our country less... Like I said before there are 100's of reasons a person can not sever his/her country... many of which a person has absolutely no control over... Putting a certain group or class on high, no matter who they are, is wrong...
       
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      Agreed. But you cant discount the the men who served . Or who are now serving especially . The only person who supports them is our president . Thank God for him. . I myself didn't serve but I have the utmost of respect for those who did and do . Except for the the two xnxx'ers Who do nothing but down my country . Even though the served . Those two are something that baffles me
       
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      It may seem as though I am discounting or belittling a person who made the choice to serve... Yes I do come across that way at times... This is in no way the case... I guess part of the issue is that I really dont see a bunch a monkeys killing eachother 8000 miles away as much of a threat to me personally. That said, soon as Bham or Huntsville start to have bombs going off and I see Abrams Tanks rolling down the street doing some real protecting of me and my family and friends.... Dont expect me to show gratitude.
       
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  11. shootersa

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    So, minimize the service of people who join.

    All it really does is show you for the ungrateful entitled arrogant ass you are.
     
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  12. Bitsman

    Bitsman Marquis de Sade

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    Not minimizing anyones service... I am minimizing those fuck head retards that think just because they did serve it means they are better/ more American/ or deserving of my respect for doing what millions and millions of others have done. Yes SOME of those others are true Heros... Men/Women that I personally admire their actions and sometimes even inaction.

    Ungrateful.. Not in the least..

    Arrogant... Well you got me there
     
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    Well, but for the most part they are better than you.
     
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  14. Bitsman

    Bitsman Marquis de Sade

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    There it is folks... In a nut shell... Got news for ya sweet pea... Aint a person on this rock that is better than me... Nor is there a person on this rock whom I am better than.. Equality.. There is an idea you might do some research on...
     
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    Oh. Ok.

    But see, if there's trouble Shooter wants a former military service member in there with Shooter, (ideally a pissed off 19 year old Marine)as opposed to a narcissistic, entitled, arrogant ass who triggers at the idea that someone else is better than them.
     
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    Where as Id take a level headed, thoughtful member of the given area with me... That pissed off 19 year old will not doubt go off half cocked and get himself and many others killed.

    Or would that be your reason... Aint nothing wrong with having cannon fodder...
     
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    Well, shooter knows this.
    That 19 year old marine, or that cook on the Ronald Reagan, could be counted on one hell of a lot more than you.

    The only thing a knucklehead like you could be counted on to do is cower, surrender, or dessert.
     
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    Funny... An in depth psychological analysis from a person who has never laid eyes on me much less talk to me in person... My friend you have absolutely no clue what makes me tick. My life experiences, The things a hold dearest in my heart... The things I would gladly defend with my life. No... You are as clueless as the rest of society is... Be happy in your ignorance... The good thing is that I really do not think you are just flat out stupid... Ignorance can be forgiven even corrected thru education... Stupid is to the bone... Cant be changed.. Might wanna consider that before opening your trap again...
     
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    Attaboy.
     
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  20. Sanity_is_Relative

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