I say yes. When your young, it's easy to muck about with girls, push them about, be repulsed by the idea of kissing them, laugh at them when they fall and use them as easy targets during tig. There's nothing sexual about it. You can be best friends with a girl, I know I was, and there's nothing sexual in it, except perhaps the occasional "I'll show you mine if you show me yours" shit. There very little to worry about.

Then, your balls drop and they grow breasts, and you see the world through different eyes. Girls suddenly don't want to touch you but you're desperate to touch them. You're fascinated by every curve in the bodies and would trade your arms and legs to see them naked. You stare in awe when you see the imprint of a thong in their tight trousers. The slightest tiniest hint of a smile instantly makes you think that you can leap into a sexual relationship. They flirt to get what they want and your too young, niave and horny to understand their real intentions.

And if you're lucky enough to find a girl that doesn't think you're a total fucknut, you take her out and try not to screw things up but you're male, so you do anyway. They're a walking bag of fucking emotions and the only way to not say something to offend or look stupid is to say nothing at all. Of course, if you do manage to find a girl that actually finds you interesting and is open enough to accept you into her life on the long term, more and more complications build up.

Meeting her parents for one, if they get a good impression and gather that you're not some guy with his brain in his balls, then you pass the test, maybe get invited to dinner a couple times and she can talk freely with her mum about how much she hates you when you fall out. Her dad can just smile and convince himself that you're not touching his daughter in any way.

Then if she starts to change, you freak out, start to get upset, don't talk as much and feel like you're not good enough for her. You start to think she's having thoughts. Then she's back to normal and you go home with a smile on her face and then she's straight back to quiet and/or bitchy and you get twice as confused and worried. She uses you to vent her stress, attacks you for what feels like nothing or tells you to shut up in harsh tone, instead of her usual playful tone.

Then, maybe after a couple months, you manage to undo her bra and get her breasts out. Which, yes, is exciting but you can't tell your friends or at least the ones she knows as then you'll have to wait another few months before anything like that happens again.

And then you decide to discuss entering a sexual relationship with her. You'd think you'd get maybe an extended yes or no answer but instead your given a list of excuses, which confuse you even more. Either that or she gets freaked out and finds excuses not to be alone with you as she thinks you might try something.

Okay. Point is, guys usually only have the best intentions for girls. The ones that don't are attractive and have deflowered girls of all shapes and sizes, in as many positions as you can think of, in as many locations. You tar all guys with the same brush and begin to think we're all after one thing. Yes, thats where we'd like our relationships to end up eventually but when it does, it'll just become a way of expressing our love or relieving stress. No girl seems to understand how difficult everything is for guys when trying to lose their virginity.

I'm a paranoid guy and I've been going out with a girl for a month and a bit. She's got some pretty serious school tests coming up though and it's affecting us. We have little alone time, I can't walk her home anymore and everytime I go see her during lunch, she's either all perky and happy with loads to say and we have a great time or she's reserved and bitching, snapping at me and telling me to shut up.

The other half of this particular rant was based around my ex-girlfriend who I was with for five months and with whom I almost entered a sexual relationship with. Until she decided to tell me her dad was dying and run off with someone else.

So yes, if you are lucky enough to find a girl who's open and doesn't mind discussing or having sex, then try and make it last because a sexual relationship while still in your teenage years is hard to maintain.

Although this rant was probably quite misplaced, considering I'm probably one of the youngest on the forum.

So, any stories to tell?

 

It's called experience, and believe me there will be many,many more, of all
types, some you probably will hate, but that's called life. It takes twists and
turns you can't even imagine at your age. Best to you, seriously.

 

This made me laugh. I like how you already understand girls are psychotic emotional unbalanced people and guys are shitbags. Good outlook on life.

But as far as the virgin thing, don't even trip. Society has made you believe that as a guy you're not suppose to be a virgin. Its just a part of our culture. If you're 16-17 and still a virgin you start getting teased. I'm not gonna be lame and say wait til your ready or any of that, but i will say it will come sooner or later. Don't go looking for it cause no girl likes a desperate guy. I can understand your frustration after being with a girl for 5 months and not having sex, but trust me, it will come. I didn't lose mine til i was 20 and before that i was like whats wrong with me, why haven't i gotten any yet, blah blah blah. But when i did get it, she was hot as hell. I've only had sex with 2 girls but they've both been amazingly hot. Sooner or later you're gonna get some.

As far as your current girl, you seem to know that girls are crazy so why are you suprised by her day to day mood swings? If you wanna try to improve things maybe you could get her something small. Like any kind of small gift and keep it in your backpack. Days when she's upbeat and things are good don't give it to her but the day she's being an ass be like oh i got you something. Girls love to know that their guy was thinking about them, and thought about them enough to get them something. Drop a lame line like i saw this and it reminded me of you or something. Girls love suprises and spontaneous-ness. But yea, sadly there are some days when girls are just too emotional that nothing can help and they'll be cynical as hell no matter what. You just won a 5 million lottery!!! So what, the government is going to take it all. You just won a free vacation to hawaii. Oh grea, you want me to drown? Some days you just gotta chalk up a lost cause.

I hope i didn't offend any females. Thats just my cynical/pessimestic view on your kind. But i'm not a chavinist (sp?) or anything. I'd be totaly cool with my wife earning the bread while i stay at home and do all the shit like cleaning and cooking. I'm not saying its easy, i'm the only one who cooks and clean in my house cause my mom isn't there right now. I never noticed how much she has to clean because i clean up the kitchen every night and the next night it'll be dirty as hell. Stupid little brothers with broken arms so you can't make them do all that shit.

 

Tim - no you didn't offend, I found it quite amusing! I can't explain the way we females are..... but I do agree with your suggestion of getting something small for OneWA's g/f. Especially if she's got exams or tests.... probably stress. Just dont get chocolate! Something nice, even like just saying you're thinkinig of her. I know it sounds soppy but actually, if you feel it, it's not so bad.
OneWA - reflecting on your ex is never a good thing if you're with someone new.... I've dumped guys simply that whined on and on about their ex...(I'm not saying you are, but don't let it get to that stage)..and totally lost respect for a guy I really liked as a person because he just couldn't get over his ex and was like "why don't girls come up to me..?" hmm anyway, just my passing thought on this!

sometimes girlie mags can be a help - just to read what they're reading and what's influencing their trail of thought

 

I say that stuff all the time. Thats not important.

And thats the last thing I care about.

Most of my friends are celibate.

Just dry observation and a little rant.

 

16-17? Boy you're lucky. I started getting teased at 13. . . By girls.

 

Dude I totally feel you, I used to be the oldest in my class by about a year, just age, I ended up being the oldest overall, born in october, instead of being the youngest in my class i chose to be one of the oldest. So, anywho, Im starting to get horney as a mofo, and school being how it was with the location, and me going to a private school during 5-8th grade (you know, those always jerking off years) I got banned from public school for fighting all the freaking time and breaking noses, so anywho most of the girls that went to my school, they were stuck up rich ass preppy 'smart' girls who were intent on bragging and always striving for A's and threw a shitfit for B's. As you can imagine, I barely got any ass if I ever did really. Everyone was sheltered from the real world... But there were a couple 'cool' 'down to earth' type girls, who actually werent like the other rich girls. But still, a hint of constant bullshit. Always blowing me off to go be with their friends, always me being the last thing on their minds (trying to get together) and it sucked ass, just like you described! But eh im done with that shit!

By the way, reading that is kinda freaking depressing lol yet well written!

 

it's better than being alone.

 

I'll butt in. This woman, I have known for 14 years, gone out with her, visited with her probably hundreds of times; I'm her best friend, no sex. She's spent nights in my bed, and me in hers. I talk to her about this, she says what I've had from others: I don't feel that way about you. I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND WOMEN!!!!!!!!!!!