1. NicoleDeLint

    NicoleDeLint Porn Star

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    I don't know what to say when people say crap like this .

    No warrant no argument just the pithy statement "end of story".

    Again liberals should be proud, they claimed another victim of non-thought in you .
     
  2. justpassingthru

    justpassingthru No Rest For The Wicked

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    Because I said my piece earlier in another post stupid. Deal with it and maybe spend a little less time feeding racism and a little more time in a thread like the Is Love Overrated thread lol.

    You are a pathetic troll and no one takes you seriously, they only fed your hatred for life and people in general ...
     
  3. Sanity_is_Relative

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    Racism is just ignorance applied to the masses. The useless cunt that posted this thread is a classic racist as is Distant Lover, based solely on the idea that both just see skin color of a person instead of the quality of the person.
     
  4. clarise

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    But that's not all you're trying to say.

    Because what you've said above is contradictory.

    Most of it is patently obvious. Even to a child. People live all over the place. And people breed locally. Duh.

    But the childishly obvious part contradicts your second sentence. When you say "People, humans, did not all come out of Africa."

    That is simply wrong. The ancestry of humans varies across a diverse spectrum, but ALL humans have at least one common ancestral line, and that line originates in Africa. They may have left in many waves. They may have bred backward into the line by returning. They may have isolated themselves on islands and mixed with other proto-humans from previous waves. But all humans-- ALL humans have at least one common line.

    Your insistence on dancing around this, even now, must have a motivation. You are trying to say more, but you're a gutless coward, so you want us to have a little epiphany and say it for you.

    So I'll ask one more time:

    Are whites and blacks different species? It's a simple question. Yes or no.
     
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      You are limiting yourself. Again, not a humans came out of Africa. At the same time humans were developing in Africa they were also developing in other parts of the world. You believe one thing and limit yourself to that without looking for anything else.

      That is all I am trying to say and if you do not have the intelligence to look somewhere beside the small box you live in you will never learn any better.
      You keep looking for something more. There is nothing more. You may believe there is but that is an indication of the doubt you feel in your belief.

      No, blacks and whites are not different species. Your limited research keeps you from learning that all humans did not come from one spot in Africa.
       
      msman, Apr 20, 2017
  5. RandyKnight

    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    I have seen some new stuff out that shows maybe not everyone came out of Africa.....
    Had something to do with the Neanderthals and another group that was in northern Europe....

    sort of blew the hell out of everyone was from Africa.......wish I could remember more about it....

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    DNA Evidence Debunks the “Out-of-Africa” Theory of Human Evolution

    Scientific evidence refuting the theory of modern humanity’s African genesis is common knowledge among those familiar with the most recent scientific papers on the human Genome, Mitochondrial DNA and Y-chromosomes. Regrettably, within mainstream press and academia circles, there seems to be a conspicuous – and dare we say it – deliberate vacuum when it comes to reporting news of these recent studies and their obvious implications.

    The whole ‘Out of Africa’ myth has its roots in the mainstream academic campaign in the 1990’s to remove the concept of Race. When I did my degree they all spent a lot of time on the ‘Out of Africa’ thing but it’s been completely disproved by genetics. Mainstream still hold on to it.
     
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  6. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    Fallacy: Personal Attack

    Also Known as: Ad Hominem Abusive.

    Description of Personal Attack
    A personal attack is committed when a person substitutes abusive remarks for evidence when attacking another person's claim or claims. This line of "reasoning" is fallacious because the attack is directed at the person making the claim and not the claim itself.
    http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/personal-attack.html

    On many occasions I have pointed out, using facts from credible sources, that blacks tend to be significantly less intelligent than whites, and that they have much higher rates of crime and illegitimacy.

    It should come as a surprise to no one that these persistent characteristics arouse a lot of hostility and loathing for that race.

    Over the years it has become possible to suppress the public expression of that hostility and loathing. It has not been possible to end the hostility and loathing. Blacks reinforce it with their performance and behavior.
     
  7. Rixer

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      ..............
      thats funny------I see he is coughing also....


      78 years old....

      but why did you put that in this thread?
       
      RandyKnight, Apr 20, 2017
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      Yeah I thought so too but I posted this in the wrong thread. I meant it to be in the 4:20 thread.:bag:
       
      Rixer, Apr 20, 2017
  8. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    You do not understand the Out of Africa Theory of Human Origins. Sit at the feet of the Master of Facts, and he will explain.

    Human evolution began in Africa about six million years ago when the Rift Valley developed, separating the common ancestor of Chimpanzees and humans.

    Anatomically modern humans appear in Africa about 200,000 years ago. These have skeletons virtually the same as modern humans. However, remains of their campsites indicate that they were much less intelligent. Modern humans appear in Africa about 100,000 years ago. These were nearly as intelligent as paleolithic peoples surviving today.

    About 50,000 years ago one hundred to several hundred of these modern humans migrated to Asia, probably crossing the Sinai Peninsula. All of the non Negro races evolved from them. In Asia some of them mated with Neanderthals and Denisovans. These were archaic humans who were descended from at least one earlier migration from Africa, and at least one that happened before the emergence of anatomically modern humans. Non Negroes have some Neanderthal and Denisovan genes, but very few.

    There are about 2,000 human generations in 50,000 years. This is plenty of generations for different races to evolve.

    Anyway, Africa was where human evolution began. Africa is where virtually all of human evolution continued until 50,000 years ago.

    Human evolution received a boost with the beginning of agriculture about 11,000 years ago, and another boost with the beginning of civilization about 5,000 years ago. This is because each way of life causes different population pressures than hunting and gathering.

    The different races adopted agriculture and civilization at different times. This is why some races are more evolved than other races. It is why they have higher average IQ's and lower rates of crime and illegitimacy.
     
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      RandyKnight, Apr 20, 2017
    2. msman
      You need to keep up with modern advancements in DNA.
       
      msman, Apr 20, 2017
  9. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    No.

    They are different races.
     
  10. shootersa

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    Fine. Define how to tell the difference between Whites and Blacks. Give Shooter a "scientific" definition.
     
  11. NicoleDeLint

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    Calling me a useless cunt and classic racist is of course a personal attack and an example of ignorance applied to the individual which is you . Because ad hominems are almost by definition ignorant. Even if I were a classic racist what you are accusing me of is thought crime.
     
  12. NicoleDeLint

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    Shooter you are simply exasperating. You choose not to read at least a couple of posts in which I have said that we can both trot out Scientific or so-called scientific facts I've also said follow the money because science is rarely a pure study and is influenced by the politics of the day and the knowledge that if you simply follow the facts and the facts Lead to a politically incorrect conclusion that the person's career can literally be over .

    Perhaps we have forgotten that Galileo was nearly tortured and others were burned at the stake for daring to question the Ptolemeic View of epicycles in describing astronomy . That was the politically correct view of the day .

    So sigh away.

    Your argument seems to be based upon the assumption that one cannot prove an association between DNA and intelligence.
    Yet somehow this inability to prove a connection proves there is no connection .

    To me this is where statistics and commonsense philosophy come in .

    I still don't understand how DNA can influence everything about a living organism except for intelligence . But this is clearly very dear to you so why should I upset it?

    I hear the same argument from religious people who simply say that their View is correct because their book says it's correct.

    My issue is that the assumption has been made that I Q and race have nothing to do with each other .

    End of story so basically they're telling us to shut up .

    Not only have they made the assumption that this view is correct but they have decided that it is so correct it is time to base public policy upon that decision .

    I personally have lost jobs to people of color with much less experience and much less demonstrated capacity to do that job .

    My father was a college professor and was told by the university to be extremely careful when he came across papers written by African-Americans that made sometimes no sense to give at least a good grade.

    We see the rise of a white China that is not hamstrung themselves in political correctness and I think that will give them both a military and a Financial advantage in the future .

    So these things matter and I'm not going to go on and on and on with you about a position that you're never going to change no matter what information comes across to you .

    For you life is very simple :

    Shooter is never wrong

    Shooter believes that there is no correlation between race and intelligence.

    Shooter is not wrong that there is no correlation between race and intelligence .

    It's a simple syllogism .

    Here is another that I heard when I was going to Baptist school as a child

    Jesus raise Lazarus from the dead .

    Only the son of God could have raise Lazarus from the dead .

    Therefore Jesus is the son of God .

    Oh for that child like faith once again . It's closed to me forever

    Yet somehow you found a way to hold onto it .

    I guess I might be jealous of that
     
  13. NicoleDeLint

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    as for the question of what is the scientific difference between blacks and whites and what defines a race I could go on and on about genes that Control for melanin distribution.

    But that would suggest a difference and shooter doesn't believe in those differences.

    Let's try this way of dealing with subjective delineations from our own Supreme Court .


    The phrase "I know it when I see it" is a colloquial expression by which a speaker attempts to categorize an observable fact or event, although the category is subjective or lacks clearly defined parameters. The phrase was famously used in 1964 by United States Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewartto describe his threshold test for obscenity in Jacobellis v. Ohio.[1][2][3] In explaining why the material at issue in the case was not obscene under the Roth test, and therefore was protected speech that could not be censored, Stewart wrote:

    I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description ["hard-core pornography"], and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that.[4]
     
  14. NicoleDeLint

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    At least others on here as much as I might disagree with them are involved in argumentation .

    All you have our insults .

    This is not a roast this is a serious discussion and if you cannot supply adequate warrants for your position better than end of story perhaps you should go to the post with lower standards .

    You've called me a useless cunt and stupid and a number of other epithets . So you are clearly projecting your own hatred and that's what you need to work on .

    Be happy to engage you when and if you become civil .
     
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      Don't I remember you using pretty much the same argument?
       
      msman, Apr 20, 2017
  16. clarise

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    They were developing in other parts of the world because they were mixing with protohumans who also left Africa in previous diaspora. Thus, even though various waves left at different times, they all ultimately derived from the same branch. And that branch came from Africa.

    You say I'm "looking for something more." But you're the one doing that. You're claiming humans evolved into the same species on two or more completely different evolutionary branches. It is nonsensical and impossible. It is not what is being claimed by any of the "research" that you are misunderstanding.

    To say humans could have evolved "independently" on different continents or different times, yet somehow "became" the same species, is tantamount to saying that humans just like us have evolved and thrive on other stars.
     
  17. msman

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    Now you are beginning to get the idea.
    You wouldn't happen to be one of those who thinks Adam and Eve were the parents of all humans just about 10,000 years ago>
     
  18. clarise

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    I know this is not directed at me, but at JPT.

    It strikes a nerve because in my own jousting with one of your fans, I'm being called unintelligent. Which may be true, but it's beside the point. I may be an idiot, but I've also been extraordinarily patient.

    But I think my patience with this ridiculously moronic thread has reached its end.
     
  19. msman

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    Has anyone had to beg you to post on this thread?
     
  20. NicoleDeLint

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    First of all I am so extremely sorry that I sent that to you.

    For what it's worth I don't think that you are not intelligent. In fact I've liked you.

    I am not an evolutionary biologist so I chose not to weigh in on the disagreement between you and the number that you have been arguing with . Simply don't have an opinion at least not an informed one on this topic .

    i've been largely disappointed by the thread because it's gone off on too many tangents .

    My original point is why get so upset if people have racist views . If one starts acting on them particularly violently yes that needs to be dealt with with the full protection of the law.

    But otherwise it is simply what I call thought crime .

    JPT hit a nerve with me by calling me a cunt whuch is as misogynistic a term is I can think of . I feel that what he does is bully and I did have him on ignore for that reason .

    Shooter and I have disagreed the most but at least he has clear positions that he can defend as much as I disagree with him .

    I respect your views and I wish that I were more informed on the disagreement that you have with the other member but as I said I just don't feel comfortable jumping in the territory. I was trained as a chemist and the zoology it's just over my head .

    Sometimes I wonder of zoologists know what they're talking about and don't even get me started on anthropologists .