Why is the West believing in a religion that was born in Middle East?

 

I don't, I'm a witch

 

Mayhaps human conglomerates of society respond to their direct environments. So religions are born of folks for folks in their region.

But it’s all connected and I’m wondering why you’re seeing through eyes of segregation? The world isn’t as divided as some may wish it to be. We’re all here together

 

TheKool-Aid they serve in schools caused this

 

Perhaps because most things we know , language , numerals and all sorts had their roots in the same area ,
and in fact originally , humans emerged out of Africa through the same area.
(mostly/most likely , according to what we know so far)

The origins of the spread of Christianity westwards from the middle east began with the Roman empire , and accelerated with the Holly Roman Empire ,
and just as still today ,
religion is the tool of the rich and powerful , to control the masses ,
or try to.

There are no poor churches.

The catholic church is probably still the biggest business in the world , or at least one of them.

The Spanish , British , Dutch , and Portuguese all took control of
"the new world" , in the name of Christianity and their christian rulers , using Christianity as the tool , excuse , and method. (basically)

Go to poor countries and relatively poor countries , and what do you most often see of the remnants of colonial rule ,
churches ,
big flashy churhes ,
just like the romans built temples everywhere they went ,
and the "holly romans" built churches , so has everyone else.

 

The idea that the Son of God was born in a stable, and preached gentleness and mercy, only to be wrongly accused of sedition and blasphemy and executed, but that he rose from the dead appealed to an empire where most people were poor, where they resented Roman authority, and where they thought resistance was futile.

Traditional stories about the Olympian pantheon of deities were not edifying. St. Augustine pointed out that the king of the Roman gods was the most accomplished adulterer in the universe.

By the time that German barbarians overran the Western Roman Empire Christianity had become the Roman religion. The Germans adopted the Roman religion because they respected the cultural accomplishments of the Roman Empire.

Muslims thought that all scientific truth was in the Koran, so additional scientific scientific inquires were threats to the faith.

There were Christians who thought the same of the Bible. Nevertheless, Christian disputes over the complex and contradictory doctrine of the Trinity prepared Christians for debates over fundamental issues.

Oxford and Cambridge were founded to teach Christian theology to aspiring clerics. They began to teach the philosophy and science of Aristotle. From there they began to study physics and astronomy.

When the printing press was invented in the West, use of it spread rapidly. Roman Catholics used printing presses to print the Vulgate translation of the Bible. Protestants used them to print translations of the Bible in contemporary European languages.

Knowledge spread throughout Europe. While this was happening an Ottoman sultan decreed that anyone using a printing press would be executed.

Thus, Christianity spread to Europe and contributed to the European ascendancy.

 

Literally every major religion either started there or was also present there in some form.

 

Christianity spread through Europe long before the invention of printing.

There's a Roman temple on the border between England and Wales , that already included christian elements , in the 2nd - 3rd century AD.
(many roman temples honoured more than one deity , and as Christianity became acceptable then popular , it was included . Later of course some temples were converted to churches)

So early forms of Christianity had reached the farthest corners of the Roman empire within about 300 years.
Over a thousand years before the European invention of the movable type printing press ,
and of course there were already churches and cathedrals all over the place before then to.

 

Gods and religion have been around for time immemorial I'm sure that within the next hundred years we will have invented a new fallacy and start moving on from Christianity and whatever other religions people are currently dabbling in.

 

It goes back to Manifest destiny and the idea that any one who was not a Christian where barbarians. This is how early Americans justify taking land from native Americans.

 

Shit , within the next hundred years ?

Some have tried for millennia ,
none survived long , or gained much traction , and most are considered cults , or similar , or just forgotten.

The only real survivors are the new/different versions of the same basic core religions that we all know.

Probably the most successful of the Christian variety , being the Church of England.

Invented by Henry VIII (and his cohorts) to wrest control from the Vatican , and gain more control over his minions , particularly to be able to divorce them when he wanted

and so were back to religion being predominantly the tools of control and governance , and constantly modified to suit said rulers of the time.
(hence the expunging of , and almost complete disappearance of the gospel of Jesus and Mary , in the middle ages , because it didn't suite the partriachle control enjoyed by the then popes n bishops. They literally could not have a woman as one of the deciples. That just wouldn't do)

 

I dont need no blind belief, I dont need no comic relief, I dont need to see the scars, I dont need Jesus Christ Superstar, Dont need Sunday television, Bet your life I dont need religion.............Lemmy...............Religion has caused more War, death, destruction, and child abuse (looking at you Catholic Church) than anything else, religion should just fuck off, the world and the people in it would be much happier, was jesus a real person? yes he was, was he the Son of God...was he fuck....

 

I have read that the Mongols killed ten percent of the world's population at the time, and thirty percent of the Chinese population. They did not do it for religion. They did it for loot, tribute, and the opportunity to rape women.

Wars have usually been fought over resources. When religion has been invoked it was usually only a pretext.

 

Did somebody seriously claim otherwise? Christians were converting "barbarians" before the Empire even dissolved!

Actually that whole thing was started by the Spanish and English. One of the English Kings proclaimed they would exterminate their "inferior" species along the East Coast. It was merely continued by the largely Anglo ruling class of the US.

 

When Thomas Jefferson complained in the Declaration of Independence that King George III, "has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages," he was complaining that British soldiers were arming slaves and encouraging them to fight for their freedom. British soldiers were also arming Indians and encouraging them to defend their lands against white settlers who were killing them and taking their land.

 

What in the fuck does that have to do with anything?

And I'm not sure how he was complaining exactly?

 

It has to do with your earlier comment:

 

How on Earth does it have anything to do with my post you quoted?

I'll answer that for you... It doesn't.

You just wanted to respond to my refuting a tired half-truth so mindlessly accepted and thrown around with something you seem to think showed the British were somehow morally superior. Meanwhile, it was the British who turned slavery and extraction of resources they had no right to into almost a science. Nobody on Earth has ever or will ever do more harm to the world than they did, not even the Spanish and Portuguese.

And that includes using and lying to slaves and indigenous Americans in order to get them to fight against first the French then the colonists. Not to mention it was the British who divided black slaves and white indentured servants in the first place via these very same tactics after a revolt in Virginia. An English governor promised the whites better conditions and standing (knowing full well it would never be given to them) if they turned on their black brothers in the revolt.

 

And what about other religions? Which one should we choose? What if my relationship with God is personal and doesn't involve you? Why would I need a religion?

 

Ok... Khan lived how long? And how long has Christianity been waging war, molestation, and abuse?

Christianity wins.