Does anyone have a figure to put down as to how many people have been killed in these religious "wars"?

 

That is a difficult one to answer. There are many things to suggest that the Catholic church was complicit with Nazi Germany. How do you apportion blame?

And the church is also responsible for their day to day abuses that do not involve war. Sex abuse is one.

 

The people in the “west” had that religion before they migrated there. Not understanding your question? Native Americans aren’t Christians.

 

The European empires were the most humane the world ever knew. They subdued barbarians and spread civilization.

 

You couldn't be further from the truth if you tried.

 

Atheism is a factorc in most wars, if you see atheism as being an anarchy against religion. Religion is both a justification and a causation used by non-religious leaders whose primary motivation was empirical, power and economic ambitions.

Hitler, Saddam Hussain and Idi Amin are prime examples. The Crusades were more of a conventional war than a religious one.

 

I see my stupid echo is back.

You'd think it would know any wars started by the angle can church might be religious.

But I notice it couldn't answer the question , which of those is or was a religious war.

I just wonder when a war over sovereignty , territory , or similar , is or is not a religious war.

After all ,
before you even start counting , you have to decide that.

(But the idiot echo is to busy trying to point score to recognise it's own ignorance )

 

you people, arguing about religion and whether there is a God, and if so, why does he (she) let bad shit happen.
Shooter can confirm that there is indeed a God.
It doesn't matter if you elect to not believe in God.
God believes in you.
And it doesn't matter if you want to be mad at God, you know, for allowing bad shit to happen.
He isn't pissed at you. And that is indeed a good thing.
See, you can believe or not believe. Your choice.
You can try to understand the "why" of it all or just accept it. Your choice.

But really, try to take your personal agenda out of the debate.
Because while God believes in you, and isn't pissed at you, your personal agenda is irrelevant and just gets in the way.

 

Since this post was a serious question ,

and the idiot has buried it in stupid comments ,
I will try and clarify it , so any who wish can contribute.


Geez , where would you start , and it sure ain't finished.
Which wars are religious
(meaning which of the wars mentioned would be classified as a religious war)

, Afghanistan , Iraq , Syria , Yemen , the Iraq Iran war , Sudan , 6 day war , Israel Lebanon , Cyprus , Turkey

(I only included the recent wars I could think of quickly. "Recent" note.
I forgot one that clearly should have been included , the Bosnian .
I could have included the Falklands war , I suppose , [didn't think of it] but that clearly was over territory/sovereignty.
I'm am not aware of any US involvement in about half of those mentioned , but if there was , so be it.
This is in no way about who is or was involved .
It is simply a question of
which wars are religious wars ?

Anglican , Catholic , Protestant , Hindu , Rastafarian , Islam , Buddhist , Voodoo ,
whatever is considered religious by whomever.

Just to be clear.
I am a non believer.
That is I do not believe in any god.
I do not pray nor worship anyone or anything
I have no objection to others beliefs , just don't try and push them down my throat.
I spent about 13 year being educated in religious things , in nominally religious
schools , and they did not convince me.

Call me agnostic or atheist , or a fractal , if you need a label , I care not which.

(was the Irish thing a war ?
it was certainly religious ,
but also about sovereignty I guess)

 

Countries rarely fight over religion, but over limited resources. Sometimes they use religion as a pretext. It is true that a country that is unified by a specific religion has a military advantage over a country that is not.

The conflict in Northern Ireland was really between Irish who had lived there for at least a few thousand years, and Scots who had settled there several hundred years ago.

The conflict in Israel and the occupied territories and Gaza is really between those who have lived in the area for two thousand years, and those who are descended from those who lived there prior to the Jewish Uprising of 66 to 73 AD, and the Bar Kokhba revolt of 132 to 136 AD. Many Israelis do not even believe in God.

The wars between Great Britain and France during the eighteenth century and the early nineteenth century had nothing to do with religion. Nor did the two world wars.

The American Civil War resulted in more American deaths than both world wars. It had nothing to do with religion.

 

Those who blame religion for wars are expressing their atheistic bigotry. During the Paleolithic Era a much higher percentage of men were killed in wars than during recorded history.

 

Irish and Scots? No. It was over the Plantation of Ireland and the way the British enforced that as much as possible.

Also I think you're forgetting that countries as we understand them did not exist until these places were "colonized". Instead they had empires, kingdoms, and spheres of influence. A local power structure, basically. At times one huge empire would conquer a large swath such as the Aztecs, Mayans, Incas, Ottomans, etc but really the only place that was continuously a large empire throughout a very long history was and is China.

 

WOW This has to be the stupidest thing ever said on XNXX. Hitler was Christian yes he disliked the Catholic church and was very much opposed organized Christianity but he was not a atheist in 1933 Hitler BAND Atheist and band the German Freethinkers League . Hitler also wasted millions of the german peoples money searching for Christian Acult objects such as the arch Jesus death Shroud and the holy grail. When Hitler invaded Poland his first act was to take the Spear of Destiny the spear the Christians believe was used on Jesus. Hitler and the Nazi party both promoted a group called Positive Christianity a Christian group that promoted the throwing away of the old Testament as the old testament was written by Jews and to keep following the new testaments. Hitler also put Atheist in the camps along side the jews dose not sound like something a atheist would do.

Saddem Hussain was Sunni and did practice you can find people after his death calling him a atheist these tend to be other sunnis who did not like the fact that saddem did not allow the Sunni population any more power then the other religious Saddem had all the power and did not share with other Sunnis there for they hated him. Saddem ruled a area that was a religious bomb ready to explode Sunni Shia Chistains and Jews in a country where they all want power.

Idi Amin Was a Roman Catholic who converted to Islam don't know how you are comparing a member of the nation of Islam to a atheist.

The ironic thing is you bring out these examples of dictators who are atheist and none of them where Atheist i been threw this argument with people over and over and Hell you even left out a glaring omission of Stalin i mean if i was making a list of dictators and i wanted to make a connection to atheist i would not forget Stalin because he was the only real dictator who was a Atheist. He even worked to eliminate all religion from the USSR thats always a good dictator to bring up when trying to blame all the worlds evils on atheist. I have a answer to that by the and it simply is Who gives a fuck i don;t support or thing stalen was right in the things he did jsut like i dont think you suport Hitler when he said round up all the jews and the atheist and the gays and put them in camps to die.

Every group is going to have evil people in it thats simple a fact of life you take a group of 100 people chances are 1 of them is going to be bad you cant call every one bad for that 1 person. The crusades was started by Pope Urban II in 1095 that was the first crusade holding back Muslim expansion west it was a religious war Christina vs Muslim period.

 

Hitler rounded up literally everybody. He didn't specifically persecute atheists.

And Sadaam was a Ba'athist dictator. Iraq was a much more complicated situation than that.

 

What is truly stupid is your replying without reading what I posted.

 

Say what ever you want to leave whenever you want to believe . This country was founded on God the same God we all grew up with. And it was 1000 times safer . When churches preached morals. And wasn't till the last few years that the Christian God became the enemy of the United States . I've been to every church Of almost every religion. The ones that really crack me up earlier ones with the rock 'n' roll bands. But I still Believe in our original God . I am no Sunday Go to meetin guy , because here it is Sunday and I'm on a sex site talking about religion. (this is the best right) Want to here do something fun , if you are handsome dude go to one of these new day rock 'n' roll churches unaccompanied single. And watch how upset you will make their pastor ,he will be real nervous that you're trying to cut in on his action. Laugh my fucking ass off . .... been there done that. Believe me you won't be to welcome .

 

I'm glad to see you heathens discussing religion today!

God bless!

 

This country wasn't founded on religion. It was founded on Quaker values. You can thank them and the states of Pennsylvania and New Jersey for allowing them to flourish, otherwise our country wouldn't have the ideals it does.

 

Isn't the Middle East considered the 'cradle of civilization'? And isn't organized religion a marker of civilization? It would be natural for one to go hand in hand with the other, and for both to spread from the same general area, though religion has experienced more revisions over the years perhaps.

 

The Quakers were not religious?

They Protestants and Catholics predate the Quakers in establishing societies in what is now the US, Massachusetts was established before Pennsylvania.