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  1. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    Hitler's Table Talk: 1941 - 1944 is a compilation of Hitlers comments made in private to associates and foreign delegations. These comments were recorded in shorthand by a secretary with Hitler's permission. I will quote several of Hitler's comments. I am using an edition translated by Norman Cameron and R. H. Stevens, and published by Enigma Books.

    Page 7: The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew.

    Page 75: Christianity is a prototype of Bolshevism: the mobilization by the Jew of the masses of slaves whth the object of undermining society.

    Page 123: The man of to-day, who is formed by the disciples of science, has likewise ceased taking the teaching of religion very seriously. What is in opposition to the laws of nature cannot come from God. Moreover, thunderbolds to not spare churches. A system of metaphysics that is drawn from Christianity and founded on outmoded notions does not correspond to the level of modern knowledge.

    Page 145: Kerrl, with the noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don't believe the thing's possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity.

    Page 253: But for the coming of Christinaity, who knows how the history of Europe would have developed: Rome would have conquered all Europe, and the onrush of the Huns would habe been broken by the legions. It was Christianity that brought about the fall of Rome.

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    Side note: After failing to conquer Germany Caesar Augustus, who of course was not Christian, listed the Rhine River as one of the natural boundaries of the Roman Empire. Charlemagne, who was a Christian, conquered Germany and founded the Holy Roman Empire. The Holy Roman Empire twice prevented the Ottoman Empire from conquering Europe. It lasted until the beginning of the nineteenth century. The Holy Roman Empire of course was Christian.
     
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      Of course now the current Muslim invasion has been quit successful!

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    2. Distant Lover
      The only Palestinians I care about are the Christian Palestinians. I think the rest should have been deported immediately after Israel's 1967 victory in the Six Day War.
       
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    3. Distant Lover
      The only Palestinians I care about are the Christian Palestinians. I think the rest should have been deported immediately after Israel's 1967 victory in the Six Day War.
       
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  2. user 326

    user 326 Renaissance Man Banned!

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    Show me where I said they weren't religious. You can't, because I didn't. Protestants were the furthest thing from tolerant, and Catholics only existed in MD and were overthrown by said intolerant Protestants.

    The Quakers are the ones who established freedom of religion. They are the ones who started the abolitionist movement. Pennsylvania was founded on the ideal that everybody is equal and thus in the laws of the state, Penn made it clear people couldn't just steal land from the natives. It was here that people of all creeds lived together peaceably or at the very least had their own land. They were pacifists. Do I need to go on?

    Massachusetts is only included in the same breath because they were the ones who pissed off the British. It was Pennsylvania who had to decide whether or not to join, and did so with cool heads. It was Pennsylvania that gave birth to the environment in the US that inspired people like Jefferson and other revolutionary figures to talk about inalienable rights. MA might have made a lot of advancements in the areas of medicine, law, etc but they had absolutely nothing to do with the ideals this country was built upon.
     
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  3. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    Right here
    Those values were the basis of their religion.

    The Pilgrims and other colonists were indeed motivated by religious freedom.
     
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  4. anon_de_plume

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    And then go on to molest their children.

    Sorry, but this country was not founded on Christianity. It is clearly secular. They choose to use the word creator and not god for a reason...
     
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  5. thestrangerinyou

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    Table Talk has been translated wrong it was translated from German to French to English. The French translator was a swiss invester named François Genoud
    Genoud backed lots of money into the nazi party and later would back Palestinian terrorist interesting guy look him up. But it was his translations that had the anti Christian quotes in them but the original German documents do not have these quotes in them you can find the originals very easy only and use google translator.
    The Norman Cameron and R. H. Stevens and H.R. Trevor-Roper are translations of Genoud french version not the originals.

    I recommend reading Richard Carriers work where he goes back and re translates the pages straight from the original German text it paints a totally different picture you then understand hes referring to the old testaments and promoting
    Positive Christianity again a Nazi group I posted about earlier.

    And again whos atheist whos Christian it dose not matter one bad Atheist or one bad Christian dose not make them all bad I cant believe i have to say this
     
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  6. speakeasy

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    I wasn't aware that religious belief recognizes borders.
    As far as Christianity goes, it was started in the Middle East but once the Roman empire adopted it as the "official" religion of the empire, it spread like ripples on the surface of a pond.
     
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  7. Truthful 1

    Truthful 1 coal fired windmills Banned!

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    Good point
     
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  8. Truthful 1

    Truthful 1 coal fired windmills Banned!

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    speaking of New Jersey ,the whole northern half should be pushed so far in to the ocean that it falls off the canyon and let us pray it doesn't corrupt The tuna and Sord fish. I hope our new governor is st the helm At the time lol.
    And before he taxes us into oblivion. Sorry did I get off track
     
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  9. Distant Lover

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    Here is a pdf of the original German of Hitler's Table Talk:

    http://answers.org/atheism/Adolf-Hitler-Monologe-im-Fuehrerhauptquartier-1941-1944.pdf

    A quote I like to post from the translation by Norman Cameron and R.H. Stevens is:

    Page 7: The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. [Night of 11th - 12th July 1941]

    This is the original German: "Der schwerste Schlag, der die Menschheit getroffen hat, ist das Christentum; der Bolschewismus ist der uneheliche Sohn des Christentums; beide sind eine Ausgeburt des Juden."

    I have unfortunately forgotten the German I learned in college. Nevertheless, this is the translation I got from a translator on the internet: "The heaviest blow that hit humanity is Christianity; of the Bolshevism is the illegitimate son of Christianity; both are a figment of the Juden."

    I invite anyone with better German skills than me to check my other quotes in English.
     
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  10. Distant Lover

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    Here is another one of the English translations by Norman Cameron and R.H. Stevens:

    page 75, 19th October 1041, night: "The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity.

    "Christianity is the prototype of Bolshevis;: the mobilization by the Jew of the masses of slaves with the object of undermining society."

    This is the original German: "Daß die antike Welt so schön, so heiter und unbeschwert war, erklärt sich daraus, daß sie von zwei Seuchen verschont geblieben ist: der Syphilis und dem Christentum! Das Christentum war der Vor-Bolschewismus, die Mobilisierung von Sklavenmassen durch den Juden zum Zwecke der Aushöhlung des Staatsbaues."

    This is the internet translation: "The fact that the ancient world was so beautiful, so cheerful and carefree is explained by the fact that it has been spared two epidemics: syphilis and Christianity! Christianity was pre-Bolshevism, the mobilization of slave masses by the Jew for the purpose of undermining state building."

    Anyone who can read Hitler's Table Talk in the original German can see that Hitler had a low opinion of Christianity.
     
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  11. gaysmirk

    gaysmirk Porn Surfer

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    Three major religious groups (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) originated in the Middle East. .... The ethnic Greeks, who had once inhabited large parts of the western Middle East and Asia ... Islam is believed to be an extension of Judaism and Christianity with the belief that Muhammad is the final prophet of God, in a long
     
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  12. slutwolf

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    Religion is a tool of control for the powerful , and or those that wish to or would be , is basically the way I believed it/they evolved.

    interestingly:

    Anthropologists have found that virtually all state societies and chiefdoms from around the world have been found to justify political power through divine authority. This suggests that political authority co-opts collective religious belief to bolster itself.
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    Trying to establish the beginnings of organised religion is a bit of a quandry , since most of what is easily available tends to be west biased.

    Hinduism is stated as the oldest religion still practiced.
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    2300-1500 BC - A very developed civilization dwells in the Indus Valley with its own religion and culture, and is believed to be the beginnings of Hinduism.
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    Then Buddhism developed from Hinduism.
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    But , research finds China shows evidence of religious activity at least as early as 4,500 BC.
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    There was trade and travel between China , the Indus and Egypt , so where dose all that leave us ?

    Back to the basic truth ,
    that we just don't know what (as in how much) we don't know.

    All we really know , is that what we know is not definitive.
     
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  13. Truthful 1

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    but they still beleaved in a peaceful god. In like the Muslims who hate and teach hate . If I were a woman I'd be nervous about how big this religion is becoming around the world they are no fans of intelligent women . if you're a woman who speaks their mind,, the Muslims won't like that. We we're still better off with the hypocrite Catholics lol , Who are now destroying their own religion with their leftist liberal poop. 00ps I ment pope lmao . let's call him. The anything goes ,Pope
     
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  14. HungryDATM

    HungryDATM I am Hell, a Miracle overloaded

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    This is fucking stupid y'all....if the people in the Middle East stood in a certain direction, they would be the West because THE PLANET IS NOT FLAT!! Jesus Fucking Christ, how many of you are college graduates?
     
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      Ah , at last we having a rocket scientist.

      Yep , everybody and every place between the poles on the planet , has a west ,
      and is west of half of the planet ,
      while at the same time ,
      has an east ,
      and is east of the other half of the planet.
      :)

      Strange i'n'it ,
      the middle east is west of us here , and much of the west is east of us.
      At the same time , if you "go west young man" ,
      sooner or later you'll be east.

      The far east is north.:cautious:
       
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  15. HungryDATM

    HungryDATM I am Hell, a Miracle overloaded

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    Very good, somebody gets it
     
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    HungryDATM I am Hell, a Miracle overloaded

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    College grad are you?
     
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  17. Truthful 1

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    Bun
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