You are such a low life retard. Is there any special reason why you hate your own country so much?

Shouldn't you be out somewhere burning the US flag and spitting on soldiers......

 

ROFLCOPTERS!!!!!!​

 

It would be interesting to see what would happen if China started saying that the North Korean nuclear program is an unacceptable danger to the region and that the Chinese were not taking the military option off the table.

 

What do you figure the odds of that are?

 

China's military options will never be off their table , lol.
They only have to trip over and their in Pyongyagn ,
though they're never likely to need to.

The real need , is for the US to realise the old 60s reds under the bed era has long gone , and deal with china realistically and respectfully.

Unfortunately , it's got to the stage now , that until something is achieved , there is a real threat , and everyone east of Pyongyang has to be prepared
in case the mad fat little fukker pulls the trigger.

 

Forrealz. Why can't he just ignore them for 5 or 6 years, then sign a worthless nuclear deal with them, and send them their "Welcome to 'My Legacy' Club" signing bonus and be done with it.

 

Trump's mental illness was once again on clear display when he harped on what a threat North Korea is and then turned right around and attacked South Korea threatening to make them pay for the missile defense system the US is installing and also threatening to tear up the trade agreement we have with South Korea.

And as the experts point out that is not only insane it also probably has lil' Kim laughing his ass off.

 

North Korea's missile test fails, US military says
A ballistic missile launched early Saturday by North Korea in defiance of international pressure and at a time of heightened regional tensions appears to have failed.
The missile blew up over land in North Korean territory, said US Navy Cmdr. Dave Benham, a spokesman for the US Pacific Command.
US President Donald Trump cast the launch as a direct snub against China, one of North Korea's only allies and a nation seen by the Trump administration as a potential US ally in efforts to stamp out Pyongyang's nuclear program.
"North Korea disrespected the wishes of China & its highly respected President when it launched, though unsuccessfully, a missile today. Bad!" Trump tweeted.

Pyongyang's show of defiance -- at a time when its military ambition has reached its highest level in years -- came just hours after US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson addressed a special meeting at the United Nations and called for increased pressure on North Korea.
"All options for responding to future provocations must remain on the table," Tillerson said. "Diplomatic and financial leverage or power will be backed up by willingness to counteract North Korean aggression with military action, if necessary."
The launch was swiftly condemned by South Korean and Japanese leaders.
'Continuously playing with fire'
South Korea called it a "provocative action," saying it clearly violated UN Security Council resolutions and constituted a serious threat to peace and security.
"It demonstrates once again the regime's belligerence and recklessness of categorically disobeying the international community's resolve to achieve the denuclearization of North Korea," the foreign ministry said.

South Korean officials also said the test likely was a failure.
"We are analyzing additional information," the nation's Joint Chiefs of Staff said. "Our military is maintaining a thorough defense posture while keeping a close eye on the possibility of North Korea's further provocations."
Japan protests
Japan launched a protest through its diplomatic channel in Beijing, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga said.
Japan won't tolerate repeated provocative actions by North Korea and asked the Japanese public to remain calm, Suga said.
Tokyo's subway operator temporarily halted train service Saturday morning after the missile launch, the Tokyo Metro said. All trains stopped running for 10 minutes, then resumed service after it was confirmed the launch had no impact on Japan's safety. An estimated 13,000 people were affected, an official said.
White House officials said Trump was briefed as Air Force One returned to Maryland from Atlanta, where the President earlier addressed a meeting of the National Rifle Association.
The test-fired missile probably was a medium-range ballistic missile called a KN-17, a US official told CNN. The KN-17 is a land-based solid-fuel missile fired from a mobile launcher.
A US military assessment found the main part of the missile landed about 35 kilometers (22 miles) from Pukchang airfield, the US official said.
There has been no announcement on North Korean state television, CNN's Will Ripley in Pyongyang reported.
Analyst: Launch 'preordained' by North Korea
Trump's administration has delivered a drumbeat of warnings about the dangers of North Korea this week, using presidential statements, an unusual White House briefing for the Senate, and a White House lunch for UN ambassadors to underscore that Pyongyang is a priority.

The US military has moved an aircraft carrier strike group into the region, docked a powerful nuclear submarine in South Korea and staged large military drills with South Korea and Japan.
New joint drills with the USS Carl Vinson and the Korean navy began Saturday in waters off the Korean Peninsula, a South Korean military spokesman said.
In light of those actions, Saturday's launch amounts to a message from the regime of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un to the United States and others, said John Kirby, a CNN military and diplomatic analyst.
Homeland Security secretary: Kim Jong Un 'knows what he's doing'
"This is Kim giving us the finger, giving China the finger, giving the UN the finger," he said. "I think timing is absolutely planned and preordained in his mind."
There is no such thing as a failed missile attempt for Kim, Kirby said.
"He learns from every single attempt, and he gets knowledge, and he gets intel," the analyst said. "And he takes those lessons learned and just churns them right over into the next one."
Risk of conflict simmers
North Korea has been "provocative all along," US Deputy National Security Adviser K.T. McFarland said when asked whether the missile test was provocative.
But "there is reason to be concerned" about North Korea's missile tests, she added.
Trump this week said there's "a chance that we could end up having a major, major conflict with North Korea," but added he would prefer a diplomatic resolution.
Washington is hopeful the Chinese can help.

Why hasn't North Korea conducted its sixth nuclear test?
China has threatened North Korea with sanctions if the regime conducts a nuclear test, Tillerson told Fox News on Thursday. North Korea conducted its fifth nuclear test last fall, and observers have said a sixth test could come soon.
China remains one of North Korea's only allies and is responsible for much of the heavily-sanctioned nation's economy.
North Korea on Saturday said it is developing nuclear weapons for self-defense and as a deterrent to the United States, according to an unofficial translation of a statement released by an official in Pyongyang's mission to the UN. The statement, which came in response to CNN's questions about the latest launch, did not acknowledge Saturday's missile test.

Launch follows special UN meeting
North Korea has attempted at least nine missile launches on six occasions since Trump was inaugurated in January. Some of those missiles reached the Sea of Japan, also known as the East Sea.
The United States called Friday's UN meeting to call for greater sustained pressure on Pyongyang.
At the meeting, South Korea's foreign minister urged proactive sanctions.

"The council has repeatedly warned that it will take 'further significant measures, including sanctions' in the case of future provocations," Yun Byung-se said. "But Pyongyang may still harbor the illusion that the Security Council will only take limited action and that it can disregard and ridicule the authority of the UN."
Poll: 37% of Americans see North Korea as an 'immediate threat'
Uruguay's UN Ambassador Elbio Rosselli, who sits on the UN Security Council, condemned the missile test as "very disgraceful" and "against international law and humanity."
Italian UN ambassador Sebastiano Cardi, who heads the UN committee that could sanction North Korea, said he hoped Pyongyang would "refrain from any other further escalation."
With less than two weeks until South Korea votes for a new president, the spokesman for the frontrunner, Moon Jae-in, called on North Korea to stop its military tests.
"We urge the North Korean regime to immediately stop its reckless provocations, give up its nuclear ambitions and cooperate with the international community," Democratic Party spokesman Park Kwang-on said. "That would be the only way it can save itself, instead of taking the path of destruction."

 

The North Koreans of had a couple of consecutive missile failures in a row but I would encourage people not to be complacent about that because things are learned in failure .

Our own early rocket program had considerable failures as well

The same goes with their failure so far to miniaturize their nukes.

 

Absolutely ,
they like everyone else will learn something from every mistake ,
and eventually will get it mostly right.

The only comfort , is that at the moment , their recent failure rate has been 100%.

That surely means that at the moment , he dare not put a nuke atop any of those missiles , for fear of blowing himself up

But that only buys a bit of time.

 

I absolutely agree on everything that you said and I'm glad that we could find common ground at least on this topic

I wish that there were something that we could do that could demonstrate how vulnerable they are if we were serious about military action on the peninsula .

 

This whole thing is so overblown.

His nukes are not capable of going on those missiles.

Getting the missiles to work is the easy part.

North Korea also has to either develop or acquire the technology to miniaturize their nukes. They only have eight, and they are designed according to the technology of the late 1940's. Missiles cannot carry them. They can only be dropped.


All this crap. More fake news.

 

I agree 100%, which is why Trump's sabre rattling is pointless. NK is no threat to us. They aren't going to do anything and they step up their rhetoric every year around this time. That being said, if we stupidly attack them.....they can easily destroy Seoul with artillery.

But yeah, this whole NK thing is a distraction attempt and it's boring and hackneyed

 

What do you think will happen when they get their nukes small enough to fit on a missile?

 

They'll ask for more food.

 

So what do you think we should do about that @NicoleDeLint?

And to those who ask what will happen if North Korea can make a nuke I would say most likely the same thing that happened when Pakistan, India, China, and Israel got their nuclear weapons. Nothing.

 

Pakistan India and Israel have never threatened us . North Korea has . And we are still technically at war with North Korea . What I would do is to continue to work with China. I Would ask them to make it clear that China has concerns about the growth of the NK nuclear program. Failing that. The US can send squadrons of planes. North over South Korean territory and pulling away at the last second forcing North Korea to scramble its planes therefore using up rare military resources. Or we could lure North Korean naval ships into South Korea and waters and dispose of them sometimes North Korea does that all on its own without being lured or we could do nothing and let them get their nuclear technology right and just sit back and see what happens . Not the best option

 

Great.

(Boy do those NK Army guys need a sandwich!)



I will say this: I do not think we should do nothing. Yes, yes, it is all loud posturing, but it is needed. I am thinking big picture. NK is just a proxy for China, and the bigger picture is China's regional hegemony. We have to show we can and will stand up to them in defense of our allies. Getting pushed around by NK makes us look feckless.

But I'm also not saying we should be ready to back up the gunboat diplomacy with war. The goal here is more subtle than just giving One Tun Tongue a beating.

NK is a minor problem. But the bigger problem, and the goal, is to persuade China to fix it by bringing its proxy to heel.

 

The very best solution to me is to work with trying to help remove Kim and allow the Chinese to form a provisional government in North Korea so that they still have that buffer state that makes them feel safe .

But you cannot ask Kim to step aside nicely not even the Chinese can do that .

I respectfully disagree when you say this is a minor issue and I believe that North Korea and Iran are trading technologies vis-à-vis missiles and nuclear miniaturization .

If a country's entire focus is on perfecting these things they will be perfected .

Each mistake brings them closer and closer .

 

We already gave up everything to China when we elected the supposed "great negotiator". Anyone who pretends we're still a leader in the world is fooling themselves.