Whoa Nelly!

You must be really bored, AdP.

But what about the politicians who looked the other way or the regulators who failed to do their jobs? The fox was guarding the henhouse

 

Whenever the topic of violent crime comes up, and particularly the topic of black violent crime, liberals try to change the subject to "non violent drug offenses," or "crime in the suites."

Non violent drug offenses evoke images of harmless individuals sentenced to several years of prison for owning a few marijuana cigarettes. Very few people are in prison because of possession of small amounts of illegal drugs for personal consumption. Most drug dealers are violent men.

As far as crime in the suites is concerned, little that caused the Great Depression of the 1930's and the more recent Great Recession was illegal at the time. (I believe it should have been. Others favor freer markets.) Moreover, it is still not generally agreed upon what caused those economic downturns, and why they lasted as long as they did. People usually blame those they dislike for other reasons: liberals blame Wall Street for the Great Recession; conservatives blame liberals who made home ownership more affordable. Republicans blame the length of the Great Depression on the New Deal. Democrats like me blame Republican obstruction to New Deal reforms.

When one loses one's job, one's home, and one's savings to bad economic times it is not clear who is responsible. Some people blame the one percent, or at least their bosses and employers. Some people blame immigrants. There are even some who direct their hostility toward Jews. Blaming Jews of course was a real problem in Germany during the inflation of the 1920's and the unemployment that followed it.

Some people blame themselves. After all, the fact that others in similar situations survived the bad economic times or even thrived indicates that if one had behaved differently and performed better one's circumstances might not be as bad.

When one is a victim of a violent crime it clear who is responsible, even if the culprit cannot be named. It is also clear that the culprit was doing something that was illegal. It is usually clear * what the culprit's race was. It is generally understood, even among antisemites, that Hasidic Jews are not the people who have made Oakland so dangerous.

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* Note shootersa that I wrote "usually."

 

What would be the excuses given by liberals or conservatives or Republicans or Democrats, when the topic of violent WHITE crime is raised?

 

The excuse I give for police brutality is that the police were responding to intolerable provocations.

Other than that, whites and Orientals have low rates of violent crime. I have never in my life read of a white or Oriental who was guilty of mugging or armed robbery.

 

Nice dismissal! I said nothing about drugs, and you said nothing about the bail outs. If the government had given that money to the people, we effectively could have used it to get out of debt, and still wall street would have been saved. I'm sure a number of those brokers (ironic job title) got richer as a direct result of the bail out. And the bail outs would not have been required had they kept some regulations in place, but hey, don't want to fuck with the free markets.

 

Fucking beautiful opener bro ... lmao

Yet here we are 1600 posts late ... he obviously made some sort of an impact on many.

A person who is irrelevant does not garner that many comments ...

Disclaimer: this is not an endorsement of his views ... simply an observation.

 

But what about ALL the other violent crimes that WHITE people have committed, Ted Bundy, Gary Gilmore just to name a couple and you could also list Bonnie and Clyde and Ryan Leaf. How are their crimes less violent than the crimes of mugging or armed robbery.

Just because you have NOT read about them, does NOT mean to say that it does NOT happen

 

After further research I have found that WHITE actor Lillo Brancato jr, who starred in something called "The Sopranos" was convicted of a robbery that led to the death of a NYPD officer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lillo_Brancato,_Jr.

If you want to argue the fact that Brancato was born in Colombia so technically he is NOT Caucasian. I would point out that he is definately NOT NEGRO but WHITE.
Though the next actor is definately WHITE.

Mark Wahlberg, who as a youth, committed the violent crime of mugging a couple of Vietnamese men which he was found guilty and sentenced.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Wahlberg

 

On here there are few things better than a good old provocative post made intuitively ...

Or maybe a good hockey post lol.

 

There are more violent crimes being committed by minorities in Chicago every day compared to what you have stated by a few famous and notorious criminals...


FYI, there are more than just white and black people here in the US.... In fact, there are just as many Hispanics/Latinos here in the US, but they are not committing the crimes the black community is...

The sad part is, it's not always been this way. Before the 1960's, the black community here in the US had much stronger family values... Back then families stayed together, worked and helped each other because there was no one else who was going to help them... After the 1960's, black family values went out the window along with self reliance. Crime is a problem in black communities and that is just the sad truth.....

 

You and I agree about corporate and Wall Street malfeasance, so I do not see why you are implying otherwise.

This thread was started to encourage posters to flame me for my racism. That racism consists of and is restricted to my willingness to post facts about durable racial differences that are not in dispute.

 

I agree with you totally, which is why it seems strange that Distant Lover has stated that he has never in his life read about a white or Oriental who was guilty of mugging or armed robbery, considering the large mix of races that are in the United States.
I understand and agree that crime is a problem and it is not just isolated to a single community, but considering the many forms of violent crime it is NOT helpful in resolving the problem, if the focus is on a single area.

 

Facts have NEVER been in dispute, it is the conclusions drawn from the facts that has been debated.

 

Those are single examples that are irrelevant to what I point out about racial differences. The different races differ in crime rates. These differences appear throughout the world. The durability of these differences geographically, and probably historically, strongly indicates genetic causation.

Differences in racial rates in crime can in turn be explained by different evolutionary pressures lasting for centuries and thousands of years.

 

What you see as facts are not what you think they are. They are opinions about what you have observed. My point is you seem to have a hard on against blacks because they ate violent criminals, my point is that it is the intelligent whites on wall street that have done as much, if not more, damage with their white collar crime. Yes, it is hard to quantify exactly how much damage, but how much real damage has greed cost us? How many peoples lives did Bernie Madoff fuck over with his actions, some might have wished it had been a physical wound. How many lost everything?

 

Or it might be explained by the reports filed, how many more crimes are reported when the perp is black compared to whites?

I'd like to see criminal statistics that breakdown the crimes by the economic status of the perp. Would be interesting to find out how evenly race factors out when you consider the driving economic forces.

 

I believe that high crime rates for some races and low crime rates for other races can be explained genetically by different population pressures that have lasted for centuries and thousands of years. Where governments have been strong, criminal justice systems have removed those with criminal inclinations from the gene pool by executing them.

Where government is weak or non existent men are expected to avenge injustices done to them, their friends, and their relatives. This favors the perpetuation of inclinations toward physical aggressiveness. These inclinations make one more likely to commit violent felonies in civilized countries.

Moreover, in a tribal society the best warriors have more than one wife, and consequently more sons who inherit their aptitudes and inclination. Qualities that lead to prolificacy in such a society lead to felony convictions in a civilized country.

The MAOA-l gene has already been identified as inclining those who possess it toward violent crime. More research is needed to locate additional crime genes. Unfortunately, there are many taboos and sanctions against this kind of research. Looking into the biological reasons some races have higher crime rates than others can be a career stopper.

Even if racial differences in crime rates are not caused genetically, as I believe they are, they are a fact that justifies race profiling and high rates of incarceration for races characterized by criminal behavior.

 

I would like to see that too.

 

The United Nations Office of Drugs and Crime has compiled a chart of countries with their murder rates. This chart can be found here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Richard Lynn, a British Professor of Psychology, and Tatu Vanhanen, a Finnish Professor of Political Science, have conducted IQ studies in more than 80 countries. Their results can be found here:

https://iq-research.org/en/page/average-iq-by-country

If you look at these charts you can see that there is a strong correlation between race, murder rates, and average IQ.

If you look at charts contained in the following charts you can see that international racial differences also appear in the United States.

These two websites have charts detailing racial differences in murder rates.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf

http://www.columbia.edu/~rs328/Homicide.pdf

The following charts reveal racial differences in average mental aptitude test scores:

https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=171

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1995-SAT-Income.png

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1995-SAT-Education.png

http://www.blackexcel.org/06-sat-act-scores-by-race-ethnicity.htm

 

(sigh) we been over the MAOA-L gene before. MAOA was the first candidate gene to be linked to antisocial behavior, identified in 1993 in a large Dutch family that was notorious for violence. It has been a media favorite ever since, acquiring the nickname “warrior gene”. More recently, a group of Finnish researchers have attempted to make the case that the warrior gene and a close cousin, labeled CDH13 are found often in criminals. The scientific community tripped all over itself making the observation that;
1) the studies are flawed in their execution,
2) draw at best some sketchy conclusions. For example, the "fact" that these two genes were found to be less common among Caucasians (34 percent) and Hispanics (29 percent) but more common among Africans (59 percent) and Chinese (77 percent) was cited as "proof" that blacks are genetically more prone to violent behavior.

Since we all know Chinese are less violent than those pesky Negroes, and even less violent than Hispanics, one must immediately make the observation of "huh", where is the correlation again?

Studies of crime among males VS females, and crime compared to income have a much stronger correlation, but then that isn't nearly as exciting for bigots and racists, now is it?

And your assertion; "Looking into the biological reasons some races have higher crime rates than others can be a career stopper" simply isn't true.
Publishing a "study" based on faulty methodology, inaccurate or plain false record keeping, and lackadaisical conclusions drawn from "facts" is.