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  1. justpassingthru

    justpassingthru No Rest For The Wicked Banned!

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    It won't get enough votes to pass in the House.

     
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  2. justpassingthru

    justpassingthru No Rest For The Wicked Banned!

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    Republicans are playing into Democrat hands with it, just repeal the fucking whole thing and start from scratch ...
     
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  3. shootersa

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    http://nypost.com/2017/03/17/key-republicans-come-around-on-obamacare-replacement/

    Now all you unsupporters out there; you might want to turn away for a moment.
    This will probably upset you.

    As it turns out the "great Negotiator" has been, well, negotiating with Congress on the replacement for ACA.
    And it would seem it's going to pass.

    It's interesting.
    Obama jammed ACA down our throats and no one had even had time to read it.
    It is failing.

    The Republicans come up with a plan, Trump endorses it, and now through the Democratic process they are working to fine tune it. Make it work better. Do what it's supposed to do. Without lining the pockets of the elected officials.

    The way our government is supposed to work.
     
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      Don't count your chickens before they hatch
       
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  4. ace's n 8's

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    All part of the legislative process.

    Heywood123 said ''Don't count your chickens before they hatch''...well dammit man, aint that what the thread is all about?---
    Trump healthcare plan about to be shot down this week.

    Seems others are counting prior to the hatch.

    It's not the responsibility of the federal fucking government to provide healthcare, or insurance to the folks of this country.
     
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  5. M4MPetCock

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    worried about poor losing what no one else can afford.jpg
     
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  6. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    TrumpCare.jpg
     
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      Just between you and me I thought that was funny .
       
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  7. Undeniable

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    Military personnel receive varying forms of healthcare while on active duty and that won't change but can be spotty at best and if a recruiter promises you the world in this regard you should quickly discount it .
    There are facilities specifically for military members as well that take care of us to a degree . I find it interesting that the one's tasked with repairing the healthcare system now are the same one's that receive the best coverage one can have with no fear of losing that coverage even if some civilians do .
     
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  8. M4MPetCock

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    know what it's like to not have affordable - obamacare - kelley.jpg
     
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  9. clarise

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    When people tell me that they love Obamacare, I ask them "How much do you pay for it?"

    The answer, inevitably, is next to nothing.

    By and large they don't see the irony.

    Drugs. It must be drugs.
     
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      ObamaCare give subsidies to 400% of poverty level...

      I think Fed poverty level is 13,000.....so if you make less than 52,000 you get some kind of help....

      but there is only 20 million signed up( I think cause it is hard to fins a real number).....
      85% of them have govt help...
       
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      No, not the case. Just ask Bron and others. Hard working Americans, not indigent leaches will lose their healthcare if Obamacare is repealed. Trump and those that pay for their coverage without government subsidy are heartless for expecting folks to provide for themselves.:rolleyes:
       
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  11. ace's n 8's

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    This will get passed, it's truly unfortunate that Trump has to do Ryan's job.

    All those that have adjusted their vote to a ''YES'' vote have made their change after talking to Trump....not Ryan.
     
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  12. xxxaddict76

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    Either way if Trumpare passes Congress, Senate, and becomes law; Republicans can say goodbye to 2018 and 2020.

    This does nothing to lower costs, raises rates for the poor and elderly, takes away insurance, takes away covered care, takes away $880 billion from Medicaid, allows states to ration health insurance, gives the rich tax breaks, provides bailouts to health insurers who lose money, and starts another entitlement with tax credits.

    Good luck.
     
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      It also penalizes seniors on medicare who are getting a Part B and D subsidy.
       
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  13. clarise

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    This thread is all about nothing, as usual. If they don't have the votes to pass it, the bill won't go to the floor this week. It will be put off until it can pass.

    All these people making predictions: they're like sheep who wake up and stand in awe of the sunrise, each and every morning. This is our legislative process as it is supposed to work. They've lost their messianic authoritarian, and they can't understand that in the United States, laws are not supposed to be decreed by a floppy eared despot.
     
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  14. xxxaddict76

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    Sorry. I did not State predictions. I stated fact. Read the bill.
     
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      Clearly you have not. Or, you are just spewing biased half truths to improve your self image.
       
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      xxxaddict76, Mar 23, 2017
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      "This does nothing to lower costs, raises rates for the poor and elderly, takes away insurance, takes away covered care, takes away $880 billion from Medicaid, allows states to ration health insurance, gives the rich tax breaks, provides bailouts to health insurers who lose money, and starts another entitlement with tax credits. "
      Ah yes. the "facts".
       
      shootersa, Mar 23, 2017
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      @shootersa. Accept reality. You will be better for it.
       
      xxxaddict76, Mar 23, 2017
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      Ditto.
      You know, some day we need to actually have a real discussion.
      Let me know when you are mature enough to do that.
       
      shootersa, Mar 23, 2017
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  15. clarise

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    I didn't reply to you. I replied to the OP, who predicts it will get shot down, and Aces, who says it will pass today.

    As for you, I've already told you somewhere around here that Obamcare is going to take years and many pieces of legislation to wind down. This bill is the start of a long process. You can't just chop Medicaid at the knees in one night. The state expansions have made millions vulnerable to doing that.

    I've also said that most of you who are bitching about this bill seem to want it all to be repealed overnight, so you can gloat over how many people are hurt in the process. Your glee over the difficulty of fixing this mess is childish and perverse.
     
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  16. xxxaddict76

    xxxaddict76 Porn Star Banned!

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    Your still wrong. So...
     
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  17. clarise

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    Wrong about what?
     
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  18. xxxaddict76

    xxxaddict76 Porn Star Banned!

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    That somehow Trumpcare and ACA are separate.

    Republicans changed 100 pages of ACA and kept the rest.
     
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  19. clarise

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    What the fuck is Trumpcare?

    Oh, ignore that. Carry on.
     
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  20. justpassingthru

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    They can always fall back on plan B WHEN it gets voted down ... silly me Spicer already said there was no plan B.
     
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