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  1. shootersa

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    The smart despicables already know whats coming. The dumb ones remain faithful to biden.
     
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      The Blue Dog Dems return !
       
      FuntimeFla, Jul 3, 2022
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      There are smart ones? :joyful:
       
      MacDaddyDiesel, Jul 3, 2022
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      ^^^ Yeah the Blue Dog Dems who vote republican whenever the 2A is under threat!
       
      FuntimeFla, Jul 3, 2022
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    Many Democrats are screaming to not respect the 4th of July Holiday ! Complaining about "Rights" ! I suggest they use one, they are "Free to Leave" ! OR
    Take their lumps, and realize they are not in the majority at present!
     
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    ...you say chaos...we say question.
     
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    Republicans are moving on to De Santis ! Maybe Abbot for a running mate, maybe vice versa! De Santis is clearly the runner without Trump in the way!
    Trump remains to be seen in relevancy! Bidens poor performance could bring Trump back to life! Politics is always a tough call!
     
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    I'll accept either one on my '24 ballot.
     
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    @FuntimeFla I'm responding to your post on here about the 9th Amendment(the 'non-enumerated rights'), which the Conservatives are using the
    'History-Tradition Rule'.

    It will take another Charles Hamilton Houston-Thurgood Marshall documentation that the prior basis of 'history and tradition' are anachronistic and out-dated to the present cultural history and traditions. With Democrat (status quo) institutionalists obstructing the Left's call for Court Expansion, another series of generations before that occurs.

    But I see a 'Titanic' reckoning for this culture. Too bad, I'm going to need good genes, good luck, or medical advances to make it another 48 years to behold such a reckoning.
     
    1. FuntimeFla
      If packing the Court is the answer, then every party will pack the court at opportunity, how big should said court be allowed to get?
       
      FuntimeFla, Jul 5, 2022
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      [Missed this one]
      I'll say 435 members to be in consensus with 'How exclusive should justice be?'.
       
      OlDogger, Jul 14, 2022
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    If it weren't for defending the ''history and tradition''... there would not be a 9th Amendment today....or any other amendments for that matter.
     
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    "If it weren't for defending the ''history and tradition''... there would not be a 9th Amendment today....or any other amendments for that matter."
    If your sense in that statement that the 9th Amendment is the assurance for the words in the Preamble, "to form a more perfect Union..", I'm in agreement.
     
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    Are there any laws on the books today that would suggest otherwise?...I know that I dont know of any, every citizen of the U.S. can exercise their enumerated rights.

    As it has been said---If the manner of it be not perfect, it is at least excellent---
     
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      As Bogart said to Claude Raines at the end of Casablanca, "This may be the start of a beautiful relationship " [with the caveat I spotted of Bogart's later dismissals of the Casablanca project]
       
      OlDogger, Jul 4, 2022
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      My projecting on Bogie's latter opinion, that the project was a reprise ensemble of 'The Maltese Falcon' key characters w/ Raines, Bergman, and Henried, plus Wilson on piano to give it an international solidarity.
      The proactive guarantee of 9th Amendment rights FOR CITIZENS' assertion is the not totally foreseen consequence that instinctively has folks out in the streets for their "rights".
       
      OlDogger, Jul 4, 2022
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      ...love u some of that individualism eh?...protections against a tyrannical government, our rights are abso-fucking-lutely absolute, even as others may disagree, especially from those, that our rights protect us from.
       
      ace's n 8's, Jul 4, 2022
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    @ace's n 8's "...love u some of that individualism eh?...protections against a tyrannical government, our rights are abso-fucking-lutely absolute, even as others may disagree, especially from those, that our rights protect us from."

    In my own life retrospectives, it's been the groups of people-of ALL kinds- who tried to exert emotional tyranny and their institutions that I perceived as agnostically negligent to my general, as well as momentary, interests and even more so to those not as idiosyncratically esoteric as myself.

    I'm not as tied to materialistic things beyond the basic functional needs. After those needs are met-give it away or share it! NOT as a political directed end but as the ethical and moral check on myself.

    Whatever benignly works for others is fine with me.
     
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    "This may be the start of a beautiful relationship "...yeah,I think I might have heard that somewhere before.
     
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      Yeah, 'That's what she said..' with a predatory gleam in her eye!
       
      OlDogger, Jul 4, 2022
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      ... the crazy predatory type are the best fucks...yet my advice is... dont take her home.
       
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    the District Court that heard the case of Roe v. Wade ruled in favor of a "Ninth Amendment right to choose to have an abortion," although it stressed that the right was "not unqualified or unfettered."[10] However, Justice William O. Douglas rejected that view; Douglas wrote that "The Ninth Amendment obviously does not create federally enforceable rights." See Doe v. Bolton (1973). Douglas joined the majority opinion of the U.S. Supreme Court in Roe, which stated that a federally enforceable right to privacy, "whether it be founded in the Fourteenth Amendment's concept of personal liberty and restrictions upon state action, as we feel it is, or, as the District Court determined, in the Ninth Amendment's reservation of rights to the people, is broad enough to encompass a woman's decision whether or not to terminate her pregnancy."[11]
     
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    I agree that there may be a right to choose to have an abortion, I agree that it should not be "unqualified or unfettered". I agree that the 9th does not create Federally enforceable rights. As a Medical issue involving a life, it should be regulated. I agree with the SC kicking it back to States to Regulate. I agree that if a crime is involved, or the woman's , or baby's health is involved that the woman should have sole right. However, I do not agree with abortion being used as a form of birth control. When it is used in such fashion, I do not believe it to be solely the choice of the woman, in such instances, the father should have equal say, and it should be a level playing field.
    If they both don't want it, Ok.
    If he want's it and she doesn't, not ok, but then he assumes responsibility during and after.
    If she want's it and he doesn't, not ok, then she assumes responsibility during and after.
    If they both want it, there is no problem!
     
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      [I was just leaving the 16 minute fireworks at Yorktown VA when you posted this!]
      No problem with that perspective.

      I'm frustrated and disappointed with Pro-choice people that they didn't do enough beyond contraception and abortion and do more for post-delivery support for the mother and child, since both THEY and Pro-life folks should look on the holistic viability of the child when its brought to term
       
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      Agree! And I also stipulate that since it is a "choice" by the mother, she pays for it. No Govt. funds whatsover ! The Abortion Clinic should operate under the fee's charged to it's patients. Zero subsidation!
      No more being Marquis's or Chad's Fuck toy, and when knocked up, gets someone else to pay for it! Boyfriends should have right to paternity test before being asked to pay for it!
       
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      OK..
      Tho's I have military retiree bennie's, my 14-going on-30 munchkie has been told, it's on her-if IT REMAINS legal in VA under Youngkin.
      I'll won't go any further about kids acting as if their a sui generis species not subject to the recycled versions of human thought and behavior and thinking their not subject to the curses and blessings of that!
       
      OlDogger, Jul 5, 2022
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    dig her up.jpg
     
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      Didn't know AOC 35th B'day was just prior to Nov 2024. Don't count her out for moderates and we Lefties as the Tribune for our message.
      Of the three she'sthe most forth coming and credible in her rhetoric-
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UFc1CFOwas .
       
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    389,755 reasons Trump should never be allowed back in the White House -- even as a guest

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    There are many reasons Donald Trump should never be allowed to hold office again, and a columnist catalogued as many as she could think of.

    The twice-impeached former president is thinking about running for a third time, but Vanity Fair columnist Bess Levin compared that possibility to the return of the bubonic plague or stage IV cancer and said even the slimmest possibility of him winning -- or worse, stealing -- a second term was argument enough against allowing him to do it.

    "Maybe you still need convincing. Or maybe you know a person who knows a person who still needs convincing," Levin wrote. "Whatever your situation, the following is a list of some of the many reasons why Donald Trump should never be allowed inside the White House again. Not even as a guest! Not even as a school trip chaperone standing quietly and respectfully in the back."

    "It doesn’t include literally every reason, seeing as our fingers would break off before we could get through every single one," she added. "But for anyone wondering if it would really be that bad, it should be enough to convince them that yes, it would really be that f*cking bad."

    RELATED: 'Fuming' Trump is badgering friends about how the Jan. 6 hearings are 'playing out' for him: CNN

    Levin's list begins with the Jan. 6 insurrection, which has been the subject of a congressional investigation that has shown a bright light on Trump's role in drawing his supporters to the U.S. Capitol with lies about his election loss and an alleged seditious conspiracy by some of his extremist supporters.

    "Whether or not he’s actually indicted, Trump very likely committed felonies when he tried to overturn the election, according to federal judge David Carter," Levin wrote. "Trump and his allies have insisted that all of this is much ado about nothing, but, in fact, it all makes for a very good reason why he should never be allowed to be POTUS again — particularly given the fact that he doesn’t regret any of it."

    Next she catalogues more than a dozen examples of his abject racism and points out that dozens of women have accused him of sexual assault, and she listed some of his repeated threats of violence against his enemies and some of the times he used government power to punish them -- in addition to his mishandling of COVID-19 and his allegiance to Russian president Vladimir Putin, among many other reasons.

    "So there you have it: the 389,755 reasons why Trump should, at minimum, be banned from ever holding office again, if not barred from even entering the District of Columbia," Levin concluded. "If you’re wondering how we got to that number, the answer is that we decided that plotting to overturn a free and fair election and inciting a violent insurrection — in addition to all the other things that should prevent Trump from winning a second term — should get extra weight. The equation goes: (Plot to Steal a Second Term * Insurrection)3 + (Everything Else) = F*ck This Guy."



    https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-2657662588/
     
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      The mutated versions of Trump who see the electoral constituency which their former cynical calculations thought of as 'just a supplement', but are now known (what WE-POC's knew all along) for their potent and ready electoral base and activist-to the extreme.

      Much like Pilate did when he washed his hands or Macbeth did, in vain, trying to his washing out that "damn spot" of his soliloquy, those who were with Trump spiritually now have a bevy of more savvy politicians and rhetoric to serve the ends that Trump brazenly and audaiously sought to serve the insulted and infringed upon demographic of Americana-Americans.
       
      OlDogger, Jul 13, 2022
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      Frisky,
      Don't stop there! Elaborate some more....
       
      OlDogger, Jul 13, 2022
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    'Angry' Trump is 'less of an alpha dog than he was 3 weeks ago': GOP strategist

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    According to a GOP strategist, the televised House select committee hearings on the Jan. 6 insurrection are taking their toll on Donald Trump's reputation as a fighter.

    During an appearance on CNN on Wednesday morning with co-host Jim Sciutto and Poppy Harlow, Doug Heye claimed the former president is still supported by his rabid followers despite evidence that he worked to overturn the 2020 presidential election, but he is losing the intimidation factor within the Republican Party after three weeks of hearings.

    Speaking with the two CNN hosts, Heye suggested Trump is no longer the "alpha dog" of the GOP.

    "Doug, as a Republican strategist, you speak to Republicans frequently, voters and officials. Is this wounding the former president's political prospects for 2024?" host Sciutto asked.

    "It is," he replied. "And we know that it because we see angry responses from Trump, angry statements from Trump with the hearing last week, he responded 'I never even met this woman [Cassidy Hutchinson], I barely knew her,' things like this."

    RELATED: Trump attorneys already looking to make Meadows the fall guy for Jan. 6: 'Mark is in a lot of trouble'

    "We know that he is angry about it and we know that it is having an effect," he said before conceding, "It is not having a dramatic effect politically in the polls but what we're seeing is an erosion, a slow erosion of support that also gives a lot of Republicans candidates, potential candidates looking to run in 2024 more of a lane and avenue to do so and that is because of his weakened status right now."

    "Look, he's still the alpha dog in the Republican Party, but less today than he was three or four weeks ago," he added.

    Watch video below or at this link.



    https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-jan-6th-2657666681/
     
    1. OlDogger
      His Peeps know they are the chassis the wanna-be's wanna drive. They're the smoldering volcano or the unstable tectonic plate whose energy is needed for the "apprentice" skillful enough to capture the magic of that energy.
      [Ed. note-If Desantis can't pull it off, a regional lowest common denominator of diverse 'politically Right correctness' will create a tower-of-babel that will implode what ever gains might still be made in 2022, short of a too provocative social over-reach which even the moderate stability-first types will see as too disruptive to their apolitical self-centeredness.
       
      OlDogger, Jul 13, 2022
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      7/14/22 -Found this excerpt quote of Kwame Nkrumah about "liberal", aka by me-moderate-voters [​IMG]
       
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    This is just a natural fit for Trump and his advisors that are as stupid and ignorant as he is. They are vaguely aware of a DOJ policy that restricts what the DOJ can do to not change the outcomes of campaigns. Now all they would have to do is look at what James Comey and the FBI did to Hillary Clinton just days before the election to know they don't really follow that policy. But they also misread the policy to think the DOJ would not charge Trump if he is campaigning for president. When that is not what the policy says. Which they will hold off on announcing charges against a candidate just prior to the election. Not more than two years out. And I have not idea if Merrick Garland and the DOJ will actually have the courage to charge Trump with the crimes he has committed. But if they do just announcing he is running for president will not protect Trump from those charges.

    Its also hilarious because Georgia and DA Fani Willis have no such policy. She can and will start issuing indictments just as soon as the believes she has enough evidence which would include if Trump was still president.

    That being said I can assure myself and progressive/liberal/Democrats are hoping Trump announces he is running for president today. Because that is the best chance we have of getting the criminal and mentally ill Trump to blow the midterms in our favor.


    Trump advisers pressing him to announce 2024 campaign before Lindsey Graham meets with grand jury

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    Donald Trump's advisers are urging him to announce a 2024 presidential campaign before Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) testifies before a grand jury in Georgia.

    The special grand jury empaneled in Fulton County issued a subpoena to the South Carolina Republican to testify about Trump's efforts to overturn his election loss in the state, and the former president's advisers seem to think he should announce another White House bid to stay ahead of that investigation, reported New York Magazine.

    “A lot of people are saying, You’ve got to announce so you’re protected. It’s a witch hunt, they’re trying to do this to you again. You’ve got to do it before the grand jury meets with Lindsey Graham in the Georgia case,’” a former adviser said.

    Fulton County district attorney Fani Willis wants Graham to tell the grand jury about two phone calls he made to Georgia secretary of state Brad Raffensperger, although the senator has tried to quash the order, but Trump allies say the subpoena has spooked everyone in his orbit.

    RELATED: Donald Trump is terrified: Liz Cheney and Jan. 6 committee have him cornered

    “Grand juries leak," the former adviser said. "It’s not like you could say, ‘Well, he’s got six months before they make a decision about prosecuting him in Fulton County.' That’s a criminal case. That’s the big thing he’s worried about because of the tape.”

    Trump can be heard on a recorded call from Jan. 2, 2021, pressuring Raffensperger to "find" exactly the number of votes he needed to overcome Joe Biden's lead in Georgia, and while Graham was among those who urged him not to announce his candidacy on July 4, the former adviser said the senator's constant presence made Trump feel the heat.

    “Graham feels like if you just let him do what he wants, then it doesn’t happen out of the blue in the dead of night," the former adviser said. "The takeaway was he’s not gonna last five months without announcing.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/lindsey-graham-georgia-2657673489/
     
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      IN THE MEANTIME...
      The Biden Dems are acting as if the foreign and domestic ways of the past will hold 'the base' together where I'm seeing anecdotal leakage to sitting-it-out and rolling with the 'heightening of consequences/consciousness', or the always maligned 3rd party option..
      Russian Roulette (no allusions to 'Baddie Vladie).
       
      OlDogger, Jul 14, 2022
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      From: https://www.phillytrib.com/commenta...al&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share

      So what would be the result if Black voter turnout was even larger in the upcoming midterms in November and the 2024 presidential election?

      Ahead of the all-important 2022 midterm elections, reports show that more than 55 million Americans remain unregistered to vote — and about 10 million are African Americans who are eligible to vote but who are unregistered. The reasons for the millions of unregistered voters are varied from apathy to ignorance. These unregistered voters are tremendous untapped resources that could make the difference in which party controls Congress, the White House and statehouses across the country.
       
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      Cont'd->>The staggering number of unregistered voters is why the National Newspaper Publishers Association (NNPA), which represents 230 African-American owned newspapers in the United States, and the Transformative Justice Coalition have joined forces to increase voter registration and get-out-the-vote mobilization. Leaders of both organizations announced the get-out-the-vote campaign on June 24 during the national convention marking the 195th anniversary celebration of the Black Press of America in New Orleans. The goal of the campaign is to mobilize 10 million more African Americans to vote in time for the 2022 midterms.
       
      OlDogger, Jul 14, 2022
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      [Chicano-centrist]-Hillary lost, None of the dem candidates in 2020 were popular except for Bernie, and they went with Biden. Now Biden has the lowest approval ratings ever. Libs still crying for our votes. Do you not see a problem with any of this?
       
      OlDogger, Jul 14, 2022
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    OpEdNews Op Eds 7/12/2022 at 9:12 AM EDT H1'ed 7/12/22
    Most Opportune Time in Modern History ForTakeover of Dem Party
    By Rob Kall
    https://www.opednews.com/articles/M...-Leadership-Council_Joe-Biden-220712-622.html

    A NYTimes poll just came out showing that 64% of DEMOCRATIC voters want someone other than Biden to run for president in the 2024 election. And people's feeling that the country is going in the right direction, at 10% is the lowest it's been since George W Bush was president. To add to the injury, 68% of independents disapprove of Biden.

    More and more articles are saying Biden should not run for a second term. I believe he should make that clear as soon as possible, before the 2022 midterm elections, to show that the Democrats are on a new track. The Dems don't even need to mention any replacements for Biden. They just to take him out of the picture in voters' minds.

    It looks like his narcissism and desire for power is overcoming any loyalty to the Democratic party and its future. That's bad. But it appears that the leadership of the Democratic party is also too weak, or too stuck in their neo-liberal ruts to read the screaming tea leaves telling them that most Democrats do not want Biden. And I'm going to speculate that they don't want Kamala Harris either. To be fair to Harris, she has not been given opportunities to show her "stuff." I blame Biden for that, but the fact is she has not shown through the opportunities Biden has given her or her own initiative that she should be the 2024 Democratic presidential candidate.


    So, to sum it up-- Democrats don't want Biden. Essential Independents can't stand Biden and the Democratic leadership is mum.

    I think that this is the best time in modern history for a big change on the left, a chance for either a new party or takeover of the Democratic party. I'm not sure that the turgid leadership or even the leadership system for the Democratic party will allow a change from within. If a within-the-Democrtic-party rebellion is possible, it would start with the progressives. They have to join together and stand up to the decrepit septuagenarian and Octogenarian Democratic leaders.

    It should be easy for Biden to explain that his health is the reason he is not running.

    There are a batch of progressive organizations-- Moveon, Democracy for America, Justice Democrats, Roots Action, Indivisible, and more. They should join together to create a united front, and give the Democratic party an ultimatum-- change or we leave to start a new party.

    I don't have all the answers, but the time seems better now than any time I can remember. We need to get this conversation rolling.


     
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    Would that be similar to taking command of Titanic just after midnight on April 15, 1912?

    Wel damn.


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      Sometimes, the at the time spontaneous blurting rant, becomes the touchstone of reality..
       
      OlDogger, Jul 14, 2022