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  1. twisted one

    twisted one Sex Lover

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    Don't you mean what our esteem politicians have done?

    I won't single out any party either, they are all at fault.
     
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  2. Old Tool

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    I have only one response for you, sir . . .


    `Twas brillig, and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe: all mimsy were the borogoves, and the mome raths outgrabe.

    I stand by every word!
     
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  3. bigbird

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    I'm not sure there is anything wrong in being proud of your country- I personally wish the British Soccer team were prouder playing for their country - the bastards don't even sing our anthem before each game!
     
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  4. trumpet

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    I'm sure you mean the English Football team.

    I wouldn't sing the anthem either, but it wouldn't make me any less proud to be in the team. God save the Queen? Why? What's she ever done for me? let her look after herself like the rest of us have to!

    Makes me no less proud to be English, or Briotish for that matter.

    Nor does the behaviour of a certain Mr T Bliar make me less proud. I can see how his actions are viewed by the people of this country and it's the people that make Britain worthy of my pride.

    I guess the same is true of America, too.
     
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  5. bigbird

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    OK I was trying to help our American cousins out - and the reason why you wouldn't sing the words is you probably don't fucking know them - did they wipe them out of you in commie school?

    I think if you don't want to sing the anthem, you shouldn't be allowed to play - where's your sense of pride ?

    Have a good weekend - you seem a bit tense - I'd go have a wank !:rolleyes:
     
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  6. trumpet

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    Done that already, mate. Got any Kleenex?

    Ayway, second verse, no google: Go!
     
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  7. bigbird

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    There's a second verse ?:eek: :-D
     
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  8. chunky

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    I always find it difficult to sing the national anthem....

    "God save our gracious Queen".......

    There's two things I don't believe in, and in the first line.
    Bit of a 'non-starter' for me!!...... :(
     
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  9. trumpet

    trumpet The Raging Horn

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    Where's your pride, man?:p
     
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  10. bigbird

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    LOL - OK - so i honestly only knew there was more than 1 verse when they played it by mistake at the football once !

    I know - no sense of pride!
     
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  11. chunky

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    It used to have loads of verses, including one about.... "crushing the rebellious Scots"......but they've all been dropped over the years.

    Who says that political correctness is a modern phenomenon??
     
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  12. trumpet

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    Ain't Wikipedia wonderful?

    1 God save our gracious Queen,

    1 Long live our noble Queen, God save the Queen:
    Send her victorious,
    Happy and glorious,
    Long to reign over us:
    God save the Queen.

    2 O Lord, our God, arise,
    Scatter her enemies,
    And make them fall.
    Confound their politics,
    Frustrate their knavish tricks,
    On Thee our hopes we fix,
    God save us all.

    3 Thy choicest gifts in store,
    On her be pleased to pour;
    Long may she reign:
    May she defend our laws,
    And ever give us cause
    To sing with heart and voice God save the Queen.

    Although in the original lyrics, verses 4–6 are now generally omitted—partly to reduce the length of the anthem and partly due to the "rebellious Scots to crush" line in verse six:

    4 Not in this land alone,
    But be God's mercies known,
    From shore to shore!
    Lord make the nations see,
    That men should brothers be,
    And form one family,
    The wide world o'er.

    5 From every latent foe,
    From the assassins blow,
    God save the Queen!
    O'er her thine arm extend,
    For Britain's sake defend,
    Our mother, prince, and friend,
    God save the Queen!

    6 Lord grant that Marshal Wade
    May by thy mighty aid Victory bring.
    May he sedition hush,
    And like a torrent rush,
    Rebellious Scots to crush.
    God save the Queen!

    Verse 6 was a reaction to Sir John Cope's defeat by the Jacobites at the Battle of Prestonpans with a prayer for the success of Wade's army then assembling at Newcastle.
    The Jacobite forces bypassed his force and reached Derby, but then retreated and when their garrison at Carlisle surrendered to a second government army led by King George's son the Duke of Cumberland another verse was added, according to Fitzroy Maclean:[5] The verse he quotes appears to have a line missing.


    7 George is magnanimous,
    Subjects unanimous;
    Peace to us bring:
    His fame is glorious,
    Reign meritorious,
    God save the King!


    Another verse added during the 1745 Rising and sung at theatres, went as follows:[4][5]

    8 From France and Pretender Great Britain defend her,
    Foes let them fall;
    From foreign slavery,
    Priests and their knavery,
    And Popish Reverie,
    God save us all.
     
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  13. bigbird

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    Damn this political correctness - I'm gonna start up a demand to bring that verse back - it sounds like it remains completely appropriate! Is there anything about kicking a few taffs around as well ?
     
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  14. trumpet

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    I was going to type "Read it and weep" but in your case read it and approve wholeheartedly, I'm sure.:eek:
     
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  15. bigbird

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    Nothing wrong with taking pride in your country ! ( YOU PUSSY ! )
     
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  16. trumpet

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    That was my point in the first place, fuckwitted bird brain!

    I'm pointing out that pride in your country is not the same thing as pride in your country's leaders or actions. I am very proud of my nation, but not always proud of it's actions. I point these out not to belittle my country but to allow it to see a truth and improve itself.

    I want Britain to be the best it can be.

    God that was serious. Tell me a joke.
     
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  17. bigbird

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    Fuckwitted bird brain? I like it when I bring you down to my level !

    Not gonna tell any more jokes ever (well for at least 5 minutes) bastard!
     
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  18. chunky

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    We've de-railed this thread by about 4000 miles....ooops!!
     
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  19. bigbird

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    Chunky that's nothing to be proud of - now repeat after me ( in a hopeless attempt to re-rail -

    " All Americans are wonderful - All Americans are wonderful"

    Well except those that only bathe once a week and have a firearm!
     
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  20. Snoochies

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    You want a joke, huh? Don't take this the wrong way, Brits, but I think t's just like Eddie Izzard said that she's one safe queen, secret servise,mitilary and police are looking after her 24/7.The song should go "God attack the queen,send big dogs after her that bite her bum". I mean really! The song isn't about your COUNTRY! It's about your LEADER! And I can't help but think what would happen if you guys had a queen who was a real bitch but you still had to sing that song at every football game.

    But, hey, I'm American. I date a lot of Brits but what do I know? In America, however, we somehow manage to separate pride in our country from pride in our leaders. Besides...Bush isn't so much of a leader as he is the half-wit nephew who somehow (through a series of mistakes and pity) manages to become VP of a large company.

    My only wish (and I'm a black woman so no one jump down my throat thinking I'm some chauvanistic (sp?) man) is that the Democrats do throw away next year's election on a black or female candidate. We can't take another 4 years of idiot republican conservative fundimentalists. This country will suffocate (or just fall into a depression)!

    Then again, that's just my opinion
     
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