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  1. EroticaLady

    EroticaLady Sex Machine

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    The incall I shared w/ another girl was discreet. It was a "duplex" (not really but let's keep it simple) where the entrances for each unit were on opposite sides from each other. As the entrance was in the rear, no pun intended, there wouldn't be any visible traffic and as long as the guy wasn't announcing himself nobody would be any wiser.

    Now I did have an apartment for 6 months. I had a corner unit on the ground floor. There was one other unit I had to be careful of but I never saw anyone in or around it. However I was always nervous because I'm not the quietest person in bed and some of my clients could really ratchet up the volume as they hit their peak.

    Beyond that, I did a lot of hotel incalls. Things like a Hampton Inn, Hilton Garden Inn, Marriott Courtyard, Wyndham, etc. Things I could get points on and were at least 3 stars. I did the Embassy Suites once because that allows for some variety but WAY too family oriented. They didn't offer porn on the TV. I felt there were too many eyes in there too. I'd never do Super 8, Motel 6 or any budget brands. Just too sketchy. Even Hampton Inn was scraping the bottom of the barrel but since it was Hilton brand and I got my points...I would never stage an incall at a hotel for longer than 2-3 days and I wouldn't revisit that hotel for at least 2 months after. Denver is a big enough city that I could pull that off. I'd usually have the guys call me when they arrived so I could meet them at the door when I was in hotels. Since I was low volume, I didn't have to worry about a parade of knocking but better safe than sorry. So as soon as they would call me I would wait at the door and when I saw them, I'd open it so that they wouldn't need to knock.
     
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  2. EroticaLady

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    The long winded short version is I had a sorority sister / girlfriend that was an escort. She had confided in me and wanted me to work with her. She sort of planted the seed as far as money and all that went. Twice she busted me because I had slept with 3 different guys in a week and she always said that there was money I had left on the table. And she wasn't wrong.

    I was and still am fairly promiscuous. It came down to the fact that I was/am a horny chick. Her argument was I could get laid as most clients do want the girl to enjoy it as well and I could get paid. It was the best of both worlds. I had already stripped. I was already having sex with guys I barely knew w/o remorse, commitment desires, etc. So why not? And so I gave it a shot. She hooked me up with one of her regulars, a guy who was very nice, clean cut, discreet, a complete gentleman and so on. Yes, I was absolutely nervous and terrified but also strangely excited and way turned on. It worked out really well, I made $200 for doing something I not only was going to do anyways but for less than 30 minutes of work.
     
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  3. EroticaLady

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    Sorry sweetie, I missed this one. My fault.

    I knew two male escorts very well and one was more of an acquaintance. They were all "gay for pay". Well, I think one of them was full on gay but I know for a fact 2 of them were gay strictly for the money. The business environment for men catering to women is extremely small and unless you are rock solid in your body, extremely intelligent, cultured and able to fit in at pretty much any occasion, sorry, that's just not an avenue that very many men can fit into.

    I did hear first hand stories from a group of escorts that hired a male escort just to "see what it was like". All of them, to a woman, said it was life changing. Life changing in that the sex was so beyond what they expected and left them in a quivering puddle when he was done with them (not all at once obviously). I however never met said gentlemen. I just know that the male escort that guys think of is out there but he's very rare and his world was significantly different than mine.

    The male escorts I knew had to deal with cocks, lots and lots of cocks. Their pricing was much lower too as the competition was rather brutal. That and gay men are horny little bastards that have few hangups and morals so the need for gay escorts was minimal. Why hire when you could hit a club or a bath and get laid literally in minutes if you weren't too picky? Most of the guy escorts I knew catered to men who were "curious" and wanted a more controlled encounter for their first time.
     
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  4. xtrojanmanx001

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    Thank you for all the useful information. For the incall girls, it is kind of scary as a client to walk into her place because you never know if you're going to get robbed or even beaten by her male friends and etc. Have you ever heard any situation like that?
     
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  5. elsimpatico

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    First of all, thanks for sharing. I've always been interested in asking escorts about their experience, so I'm very grateful for this chance :)

    1- did you ever feel guilt for working as an escort?

    2- what was your greatest concern when working as an escort? (Being caught by the police, being caught by a family member, diseases, having you personality change, being raped..)

    3- how much time per week did you work?

    4- did you feel lonely?
     
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  6. EroticaLady

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    Sadly it happens a lot. In Denver, there is a few forums like this that are dedicated to the escort industry. They're called Sowet and The Other Board. It's really no different than San Fran's RedBook just obviously lesser known and strictly focused on Denver / Colorado. Anyways, there are escort only subforums on there. In there, girls can exchange info on unsavory stuff. Sorry guys, nothing really salacious in there. Those forums rarely talk about the good guys or amazing experiences. It's mostly so we can trade safety info about bad apples.

    So yes, through that forum I heard a lot of very bad things. Girls were routinely robbed by clients (there's a trend here, I'll explain), on occasion girls were raped by potential clients, girls were beaten, etc.

    However, while no girl (or guy) ever deserves that, most of the girls who were victimized did not take the simple steps to protect themselves and in a vast majority of the cases, it could have been avoided with simple screening and/or references. A new girl just took the client at his word but he had (allegedly) raped three other escorts. That is he went to see them, forced himself on them and never paid. He used the same phone number, same name, same introduction and his name was all over the escort only section. He did get caught and hopefully he's getting his turn at the rape stand in jail.

    I could go on about the virtues of legalizing and regulating this industry based on the above alone but another time, another conversation. Girls who tend to be very high volume but low cost and operate out of budget motels seem to run into this the most. Girls who are low volume, higher priced and try to add a courtesan-like experience to the mix as well as having incalls at nicer hotels rarely seem to have this happen.
     
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  7. thinskin

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    How much effort was pegging a guy? I mean in terms of physical effort.

    Did you charge a premium?

    thinskin
     
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  8. EroticaLady

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    Not really. On occasion I might have felt bad for the client's wife but that was rare and only with the narcissistic guys who felt entitled to cheating and not the guys who were at wits end because their wives were frigid shrews. But for me personally, not really. I had nothing to feel guilty for unless I let social normal / acceptable behavior dictate who I am which I really never have.

    It varied. Initially it was my mom/dad finding out. My mom would have come around but I think it would have broken my dad. He hated that I had so many "boyfriends" in high school and there was no illusion that I had sex with a lot of boys back then. But me being a paid whore likely would have devastated him.

    At times, STDs did weird me out but usually only after I was dumb and let a guy, no matter how regular and trustworthy I thought he was, go bare / uncovered with me.

    Vice didn't really worry me. Denver Police has largely turned a blind eye to on-line prostitution by independents or agencies. I rarely worked in the suburbs due to their desire to make constant token arrests (Aurora and Littleton didn't care but others did). Since I was low volume and fairly discreet, I never really worried about it. Funny enough, I had a homicide detective as a client. That was always funny but I never once felt threatened by the fact he was a law officer.

    On average, I'd say I had 4 clients per week with a minimal date length of 2 hours. So 8ish hours per week on average. 2 hour dates netted me $800 (more if they tipped) so $3200/week minus the expense of an incall if I got a hotel room and the essentials (condoms, lube, etc). Some weeks it would only be 3 dates, others it would be 5. Rarely I'd have a 1 hour appointment, sometimes I'd have 3-4 hour appointments. Clients took me on weekend trips with them for a vacation. Those were fun. They were rare but they were fun.

    The most I ever worked was 18-20 hours in a week and that's only because all my "dates" were long ones. It was a pretty kush job.

    Not really. I had a close circle of friends, I had FWB but I've never been a hardcore romantic relationship girl. If the opportunity presents itself for a long term relationship with a guy I'm not settling for, I'm game. However I'm very career oriented now, very demanding on what I expect from a partner and I don't need a man to complete me or make me happy. I was happy with the transient nature of my relationships back then. It sounds weird but I really was. I can honestly say I never felt "alone" or "lonely" when I was working.

    And the only reason I might feel that way now is because I travel for work so much and let's be honest, sleeping in a hotel room as frequently as I do gets old.
     
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  9. EroticaLady

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    I never charged a premium for femdom stuff. The only extras I ever charged for was anal and letting them cum in my mouth. When I moved to $500/hour everything was inclusive and what I would/wouldn't as far as extras beyond full service just depended entirely on the guy I was with.

    If a guy wanted me to peg him, trust me, I was all for it. The only problem was newbies who never had it done and guys who hadn't prepped. I always put a condom on my attachments but holy crap guys, clean out your ass. It's really not that hard. Nothing worse than finally getting him to open up and when you pull back, the condom is covered in a sheen of fecal matter. The smell alone...ugh. In the shower, a simple finger with some mild soapy water does wonders unless you like the long dildos and then you might need to flush out. Newbies just didn't know how to relax, that you have to push / bear down to open up and to keep breathing or you tense up and that makes you close up.

    The only other hard part was I liked to get guys to cum from pegging but my legs would get tired after awhile and sometimes, no matter what I did, I just couldn't get them to focus "on that warm glow" long enough to push them over the edge. So I would be working on them for like 20 minutes but alas, no orgasm from that alone. Of course in those cases they would jerk off and hose themselves down. I always was amazed at how much more cum a guy would shoot with something in his ass as compared to "normal". It was so satisfying to watch them lost in the bliss of their orgasm and the added stimulation of their ass being opened up and prostate massaged taking it up quite a few notches.

    I honestly feel bad for guys who somehow think having their ass played with makes them gay or effeminate. You really are missing out and cheating yourself.
     
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  10. notdescriptive

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    Best thread ever. Thank you.

    I can figure out some of the abbreviations used, but certainly not all. Could you provide a brief dictionary of escort business shorthand?

    Also, what is "sugaring"?
     
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  11. EroticaLady

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    No female clients and I only heard of once that another girl had a civilian girl for a client. No clue how that went.

    I did have two professional athletes as clients, one was a three time thing, the other was an 18 month long thing. However, I won't disclose the sport or team for reasons of discretion. The athlete I saw for 18 months (about 2-4x per month depending if his season was active or not) was one that offered me $10k for unprotected anal. He was a really nice guy but I know he fucked a lot of girls and he was far too high risk to go bare with. Not even vaginal.
     
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  12. EroticaLady

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    Rather that recreate the wheel:
    http://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/DCForumID15/2.html

    The most important ones are:
    FS = full service (aka sex)
    BBBJ = bareback blow job
    CIM = cum in mouth
    NQNS = not a quitter, not a spitter (i.e. she'll suck you through your orgasm and swallow)
    Greek = anal
    DATY = dining at the Y (you go down on her)
    DATO = dining at the O (you give her a rimjob)
    GFE = girlfriend experience or mutual oral (usually w/o condoms), sex, kissing
    PSE = pornstar experience which is usually nastier, less intimate than GFE and usually includes anal, titty fucking, throat fucking, etc. Just depend on the girl

    YMMV = your mileage may vary which means that what a girl does for one guy she may not do for you. I was very much a YMMV girl based on your appearance, hygiene, how you treated me, how well I knew you, etc.


    Sugaring is shorthand for sugar baby / sugar daddy. During graduate school, I had two men that essentially gave me an "allowance" and I was there for them when they were ready. Call me a paid girlfriend. I thought it would be fun but it really wasn't. Escorting was 1000x better. I felt like property to these guys and one of them didn't get boundaries. I didn't like it so I stopped. The money was good, i got $6000/month from one and $7500/month from the other so I was making out well but bleah. That actually made me feel dirty even though it wasn't always about sex.

    I would go to dinner w/ them, to business engagements, yes we would have sex and so on. It just wasn't for me. There's a lot of girls that really get into that but I was too ambitious and far too active to really enjoy it. That and they expected me to be at their beck and call 24x7x365.
     
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  13. elsimpatico

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    Thanks for your answers. You're a fascinating person, and you have a very interesting attitude towards sex.
    I really appreciate that you're content with what you do, and wish you the best.
    & I'll probably come back with more questions in the future ;)
     
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  14. JeffLove699

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    Well, lol, I was correctly able to guess "blowjob" 95% of the time. That's not fair though, these were mostly married men and their wives apparently forgot how to suck dick or developed some allergic reaction or something. :)

    I find this very interesting. It makes me wonder if married women would actually give their husbands a blow job every now and then or even on a regular basis, would it make a significant dent with them cheating.
     
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  15. thinskin

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    What was the age distribution of your clients?

    Great thread btw!

    thinskin
     
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  16. Mutherfucker

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    It appears you lied by omission. You have already admitted you have a twin brother who was aware of your lifestyle; apparently the only one in your family. When he is not mentioned in your quote, I assume you two were more than fraternal twins; mostly likely fornicating twins. You have already copped to promiscuity in high school. Why would a brother be in a no-go flyzone?

    BTW, I have nothing against incest. I hold that is a parental responsibility to "teach your children well".
     
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  17. EroticaLady

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    Because he is my brother, not some random guy I decided to have sex with. The sheer fantasy around incest ignores the most obvious downfall - if the relationship sours you can't "divorce" family. Sure, you can avoid them but at what cost and to what end? And when the rest of the family notices the divide and/or the absence of one when the other is present?

    You allow your imagination to run wild and presume too much. Besides, with a 2-parent household, when would you expect that we found the time much less the privacy to indulge ourselves in such activities?

    That's all I'll say on this subject.
     
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  18. EroticaLady

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    A lot of guys across multiple girls have said that if their wife gave it up more, gave something other than a few licks and called it head or went back to the sexual freedom they had as BF/GF, they wouldn't need us. That was a pretty universal line. Even on boards dedicated to escorting, the guys are not shy about admitting that.

    There's a whole list of things that husband and wife have done wrong to get to that point. He could probably be more attentive, a lot of guys let themselves go too, more help with the kids / around the house, etc. I just don't think married couples give themselves enough time even outside of sex to properly maintain a happy and healthy marriage. And too many women blame kids, childbirth and so on for a negative self-image, lack of energy and a killer of desire. All somewhat true I suspect. I think the evolution of the Internet and the proliferation of porn hasn't helped either.
     
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  19. EroticaLady

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    late 30s to early 50s made up a significant bulk of the men. All of my regulars fell into the late 30s / early 40s grouping. I had a few 20-somethings who wanted to indulge in a particular act or maybe were just too shy to meet girls on their own. Those were actually really hard dates because the poor guys were absolutely clueless, partially terrified but so desperate for companionship. It was just usually awkward.

    But yeah, 35-55 would be what I would say is the "sweet spot" for what us girls see. I had a 70+ y/o guy want to see me but that was one of the few potential clients I declined. I just felt very uncomfortable with that particular situation.