1. NicoleDeLint

    NicoleDeLint Porn Star

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    I wonder if anyone on this forum knows who this is.

    I wonder if they know about or have read Atlas Shrugged.

    And if so I wonder what they think about her or this work .
     
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    What do you think of Atlas Shrugged. It's your thread.
     
  3. anon_de_plume

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    If they can't be bothered to do even the slightest bit of research to know that Ayn Rand is an immigrant woman of Russian birth, then it's obvious they don't really care about the subject, and this thread is nothing more than a time-suck...
     
  4. AyaLaRoux

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    Yes. No need for you to feel smug.

    Yes again. What's the point?

    She's vastly overrated. Her economic ideology has never worked and failed wherever it has been tried to be implemented. The utopia she's describing is an absolute nightmare and there are glaring holes in it that she just glosses over. How she ever became so popular is beyond me, and her legacy should've long been forgotten. If nobody remembers who she was, the world will be a better place.
     
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  5. NicoleDeLint

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    Where have her economic policies ever been implemented ?

    And smug is a projection .

    But of course you knew that too
     
  6. AyaLaRoux

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    In the USA, especially through the Republican Party and Silicon Valley.

    Not really. Not everything that calls you out on your bullshit is a projection.
     
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  7. shootersa

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    Oh no.
    You are going to trigger Distant Lover.
    Damnit people, and we just got him down for his nap!
     
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  8. NicoleDeLint

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    You obviously do not wish to have a rational conversation. Simply the use of the word bullshit tells me that you wish to make this visceral .

    I grew up with a clinical psychologist and professor emeritus of psychology so don't give me any nonsense about projection . I've heard all the buzz words and for the most part it's all commonsensical themes dressed up in fancy words.

    Like virtue signaling

    In most cases projection itself is projection and frees people of any personal responsibility .

    You're an alcoholic no that's projection . For example I just

    Your fill in the blank here bad. No that's projection

    I think that you enjoy demeaning other people out of what must be low self-esteem .

    So I'll save you the trouble because now you're going to say that I am projecting .

    Psychology is so incredibly subjective that it's virtually worthless .

    And life is too short to be arguing with angry people
     
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      Well, you murder millions in the middle east and cry over a few defaced graves?
       
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      Murder?
      It's called war. Your fucking country .....

      *Shooter takes a breath ...........
      Pigeons
      Chess
       
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      Soldiers are murderers. Easy as that. You invaded a country unprovoked and the blood of these people is on your hands.
       
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      Oh.
      Okay.
       
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      Unprovoked? Such a simplistic statement. Not the micro, nor the macro do you understand.
       
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  9. AyaLaRoux

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    I do. Start being rational, and we'll have that conversation.

    No. Get over yourself.

    You should've learned something from them, too. Like how hard it is to tell anything about projection without knowing the person you're talking about personally and intimately.

    Nonsense. Virtue signalling isn't a buzzword. It has a concrete meaning with concrete use cases.

    Do you speak English?

    I'm not demeaning you. I'm saying you're wrong. Get over yourself.

    No, I'm not. I'm not an armchair psychologist. I never use the projection shtick, because it's already on iffy grounds psychology-wise, and certainly uses all meaning in online debate. It's the cheapest excuse for not wanting to debate a point that anyone could make.

    No, it isn't. Psychology is a science, there's hard data and evidence about its usefulness. Also: Why did this become about psychology now?

    Speak for yourself.
     
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    All right this is becoming tedious .

    Psychology gave us great truths like homosexuality is a mental illness as recently as 1972 .

    It's not based on hard data and it's not a science and even my father who is the clinical psychologist told me that it has produced nothing of value outside of cognitive behavior therapy .

    William James called psychology that troublesome discipline that came up with a method before it even decided wgat subject matter was going to be.

    I don't think you're capable of having a conversation that does not include personal attacks .

    Yes I do think that you attack based on low self-esteem but this has nothing to do with psychology it has more to do with commonsense
     
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    Nicole;
    Pigeons
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      this is curious, some sort of google Net game?
       
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  12. AyaLaRoux

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    And it no longer is, because more recent research has shown that it's not. If anything, this proves that it's actually a science and doesn't shy away from correcting its own mistakes.

    I guess your honoured father likes to be blind to the progress psychology has made in the past decades. That doesn't mean there's been no progress.

    How very astute of him.

    Attacks like what?

    Okay. Well, I'm not attacking you and my self esteem is fine. I don't know what your problem is, but it's got nothing to do with Ayn Rand.
     
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  13. NicoleDeLint

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    I'm intrigued by pigeons chess but I've got to ask what it means.

    I have a feeling that it might be very helpful
     
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    "Soldiers are murderers. Easy as that. You invaded a country unprovoked and the blood of these people is on your Hands"

    You're kidding us with this right ?

    Or is this the reason that France was occupied so quickly by the Nazis because the French soldiers didn't want to be murderers?

    Psychology has not progressed as evidenced by the extremely poor conditions of our public school system which psychologists have crafted . Psychology has not progressed it's just given in to popular beliefs. When the political winds change psychology will change with it .

    My father was honored on many occasions by the very discipline that you have so much respect for .his walls were full of certifications and licenses given by these people that you so admire

    Saying do you speak English is a personal attack and there are many others but it does demonstrate that you were not entirely comfortable within your own positions.

    Here you will say that do you speak English is not a personal attack but an observation .

    So if you said that I was a stupid booger head and I said that was a personal attack you would say it's not a personal attack because you would say that I am a stupid booger head.

    This is why I think you are manipulative

    You chose not to respond when I said that Ayn Rand only recognized those three duties of government and no others.

    The United States is a mixed economy and not a capitalist economy as evidenced by our social welfare program our food stamp program our Medicaid and Medicare programs our social security system Publicly financed universities and plenty of other entitlement programs that I'm sure I forgot .

    I'm afraid that life is much more simple for you that it is for me .

    It sounds like you are very happy believing that all of the problems in the United States are due to racism and misogynism both of which are the Exclusive domain of middle-aged white men.

    I find life to be way more complicated than that
     
  15. NicoleDeLint

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    OK I get the pigeons and chess thing now

    I need to learn how to budget my time with someone more worthy of my time .

    I keep forgetting the truth about what you said shooter. Thank you for reminding me
     
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      Shooter is only here to serve.
      And, for the nudity.
       
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  16. AyaLaRoux

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    Soldiers kill people. What else do you call people who kill people?

    There are plenty of reasons why a surprise attack by an immediate neighbour can lead to a quick occupation. However, none of them have anything to do with Ayn Rand.

    The science dealing with education is called pedagogy. It's different from psychology. However, the fact that the US school system is so poor has nothing to do with either, and everything to do with underfunding. And this, actually, has a lot to do with Randian economics.

    No.

    Certifications and licenses aren't honours. They're basics.

    I asked if you spoke English there, because what you wrote were not even sentences, let alone made any sense.

    No, I said it's a question about clarification.

    No. Also, I didn't say that. Why bring this up?

    You think I'm manipulative because of things I didn't do?

    Where did you talk about the three duties of government?

    There is no pure Randian system, because there are no pure systems of anything. The US is as Randian as one can get in the world, though. The public education and social programs operate at a bare minimum.

    Don't be afraid.

    Huh? Where did I say any of this?

    Well, that's good.
     
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    Shooter's a fart smeller...uh, I dint mean to stutter. He's a smart feller, and that pidgeons/chess came from Putin
    talking about odumbass. Bout sums things up perfectly.
     
  18. NicoleDeLint

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      ah, the old `post mirroring', yes, I have used that going back many years for those that I have seen as `third level tactical trolls'. Btw, I have heard of Ayn Rand, and the book you speak of, but have only read a few excerpts. I believe her ideas in Russia were seen as revolutionary and troubling to some politicos.
       
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    And anyone who starts a thread pretending to be ignorant about the subject should be ready for some derision. You could have easily looked up this person, but you couldn't even do that.
     
  20. AyaLaRoux

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    Can you clean up your formatting? This is impossible to read.
     
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