USA

Here there are some reasons.
If your government do not obey our trade policies, will send the CIA and kill your leader and put in his place a puppet government that is convenient to us .
We (USA) must control your foreign trade.
Does not matter how many people we kill ...you must have a government friendly to us.
As we are very misinformed ,culturally of other nations as we only read the bible and the crap that TV give us . We HAVE to change as we like it to suit the needs of the multinational companies that we control.
Nobody is allowed to have weapons of mass destruction ...EXCEPT ISRAEL , even if it is against the UN
We can start any war just because don't like the dictator that we place a couple of years before ...OOOOPS . Yes was one more stuff up....No problem , we just kill a few more people and that is the end. (so you think)
Is such a shame that your country that did so much is totally converted to GREED and is controlled by the Jews.
Your ignorance of what is going on in the world ...is really fascinating. That is OK. The preachers, the Jewish lobby. the multinationals etc. etc. keep you very well informed ... The problem is that you keep breading.
OPEN YOUR EYES and read overseas newspapers, do some research ...not in only in your country ...for a change explore....be daring ,don't be frighten of the people that keep you insulated from the real world

 

Not much to add to this other than GREAT post.

 

leave all the people you love,
in a river of blood.

 

You are the one who needs to do some reading. Only Israel has weapons? What about the nukes that Pakistan and India possess. What about the nuclear proliferation that will follow in the region if Iran developes a nuclear weapon. This UN you talk about, is this the same organization that refused to enforce the many sanctions that THEY levied against Sadam's regime for the whole Clinton presidency. Easy to blame Bush for doing what he did, under whatever pretense, when the UN should have enforced sanctions that would have made an invasion improbable. As far as opening our eyes in America, they are open always, as we are forced to lesd. You Aussies of course, let your eyes remain closed so the dust we leave in our trail doesn't blind your dysfunctional gene pool!

 

You're on fire tonight.

 

I'm really getting fed up with all the unfounded bashing by misinformed idgits. Guess it shows. We aren't perfect but there is no other place with such a diverse people and free society in the world and I love America, even with her faults. We are forever evolving and will always be the ones to lead. Rest of the world better hope we turn the economy around. If we fold the whole damn thing is going to fold.

 

:excited:

 

I always find it funny when people get pissed at Americans pointing out faults. Isn't that one of the foundations of our society? Isn't that part of what makes America so great?

 

A ........ hate to burst your bubble there Lookn4awillin1, but bombing civilian populations in order to terrorize them into surrendering is terrorism.

And when we are 5% of the world's population and consume 25% of the world's resources we are obviously protecting our own interests.

The only thing I can disagree with in this post is that the US is controller by the Jews. The US is actually controlled by the wealthy, special interests and mega corporations. But hopefully that is changing.

 

shut your face,
salmonella spreading ass pirate.

 

You can't burst my bubble Richard, we bombed their mainland so American troops wouldn't be lost invading when they surrendered. Also, when your country attacks first, as Japan did, if deaths of Jap civilians meant American lives saved, so be it. Not only did we give them ample opportunity to surrender after the first bomb, they chose to let us drrop the second on their civilians. Why don't you move to Australia Richard, nobody will miss you!

 

Yeah, I think that's why our founders wrote it right into our constitution.

 

i dont know about you guys,
but i feel like such a man when,
i point out the faults of others,
its just so... exhilarating.

 

Just pointing out the obvious there Lookn4awillin1. Dropping the bombs on Japan was by definition an act of terrorism. You can come up with all the justifications you want (but most of them won't hold up because you're ignorant of history) however, it does not change the fact that the bombs were dropped on Japan in order to terrorize them into surrendering.

And as I have already said many times I think I love the United States more then you do because I'm willing to look at it for what it really is and hope and try to make it even better, instead of just blindly sticking my head in the sand and waving the flag with my asshole.

 

UNITED STATES STRATEGIC BOMBING SURVEY SUMMARY REPORT (Pacific War) WASHINGTON, D.C.

"Nevertheless, it seems clear that, even without the atomic bombing attacks, air supremacy over Japan could have exerted sufficient pressure to bring about unconditional surrender and obviate the need for invasion.

"Based on a detailed investigation of all the facts, and supported by the testimony of the surviving Japanese leaders involved, it is the Survey's opinion that certainly prior to 31 December 1945, and in all probability prior to 1 November 1945, Japan would have surrendered even if the atomic bombs had not been dropped, even if Russia had not entered the war, and even if no invasion had been planned or contemplated."
https://www.anesi.com/ussbs01.htm

 

I more than know history as you know it. Never have I said our country doesn't face problems and the only sand around here is between your ears. We dropped a fuck load more of a muniton load on Dresden. Guess that made us terrorist there also. I guess the Germans were terrorist too for all the bombs dropped on England. Get real, the Japanese were more than deserving by the standard of war. Shame you didn't have any family serve in the Pacific during WW2, let a Battan survivor tell you the chances of the Japos surrendering without us invading their mainland if we didn't use the bomb. Zero percent. Have you got that GED yet Richard?

 

Stumbler, you and I have had this discussion in the past, could you please give me a couple of different sources on your claim of us ''terrorizing Japan'' when we dropped the bombs. The reason I ask for couple of different sources is that it has been challenged that some of the events of our history has been altered by some in the recent publications on our history.

 

Well, to be fair Stumbler is right insofar as calling it an act of terrorism; the bombings were deliberately done in an attempt to break Japanese morale and force a surrender. Whether it was justified, though, I would agree with. It is all fine and everything to conduct a study a year after the war and find out that it wasn't necessary, but when the front lines are reporting mass suicide charges, enemy fighters are suicide bombing you're ships... It really isn't that hard to understand why the Allies thought that Japanese would be more desperate if there was an invasion of the home islands.

And as far as air superiority, what does that really matter in the end? Would there have been that much of a diffference between dropping several thousand more bombs over the course of several months in comparison to dropping two really powerful ones in the course of one? Other than spreading the casualty lists out over more than two cities, the end result would probably have been the same. It's impossible to read the other side's minds. Figuring the same guys who so brazenly bombed Pearl Harbor would just meekly roll over if you tried to set foot on their soil doesn't make sense.

 

You sure don't show it.

I was simply replying to your statement that if I didn't love my country I could move to another one. My point is I love my country enough to criticize the things I think are wrong with it and hopefully make it a better country. That by the way is what loving and functional parents do with their own kids.

And if you do see problems with our country, historically and now, that's another thing you sure don't show.

Yes.

Yes.

Revenge is one of the common reason for acts of terrorism.

Their response would be far from objective. But I'm not disputing any of that. I'm simply saying that dropping the atomic bombs on Japan was by definition acts of terrorism.

Nope.

I'm not getting into that whole historical debate again simply because it is debatable with no clear cut answer either way. Just to sets of opposite theories. And besides I've already spent a lot of time researching it and have posted those sources on other threads.

It also has nothing to do with what we are discussing here, which is that when anyone resorts to attacking civilian populations with the express purpose of terrifying them into surrender that is by definition terrorism.

That does not say if it was justified or not. If it was morally right or wrong. It simply says what it is.

 

Fair enough , just thought I'd ask.