1. Mr Smith 36

    Mr Smith 36 Porn Star

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    President Trump accuses the Obama people of wiretapping Trump Tower. Details are breaking. Things are getting hot.
     
  2. xxxaddict76

    xxxaddict76 Porn Star

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    @Mr Smith 36 is a moron.

    The President of the United States cannot secure a warrant if there is NO probable cause. President Dipshit commits liable by accusing the former President of committing a felony with NO evidence.

    President Dipshit believes Breitbart, InfoWars, Alex Jones, Mark Levin more than his own intelligence analysts. Have they found the child actors at Newtown yet?

    If there was a warrant for a wiretap then the DOJ, NSA, and FBI would have requested the warrant because there was probable cause. Trump or one of his associates allegedly committed a crime or were working on behalf of a foreign government.

    Trump has the ability to provide evidence. Trump can declassify anything. Sessions runs the DOJ. There is no evidence what so ever.

    Fact check: what did Trump's tweets about Obama's 'wiretaps' mean?

    Trump accuses former president of illegal wiretapping – claims that appear to be based on rumors circulating in rightwing media about a ‘silent coup’

    On Saturday morning, without presenting evidence, Donald Trump accused former president Barack Obama of illegal wiretapping. Using Twitter, the president also mounted a defense of his attorney general, Jeff Sessions, and his meetings with the Russian ambassador.

    Trump's evidence-free wiretap claim follows rightwing Obama 'coup' stories

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    The six tweets appeared to originate with rumors circulating in rightwing media, especially talk radio and Breitbart News – recently run by Steve Bannon, now the president’s chief strategist – about a “silent coup” against Trump, by members of the Obama administration.

    Tweet #1

    Donald J. Trump
    (@realDonaldTrump)
    The first meeting Jeff Sessions had with the Russian Amb was set up by the Obama Administration under education program for 100 Ambs......
    March 4, 2017

    Sessions met Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak in July 2016, at an event on the sidelines of the Republican National Convention in Cleveland. The event was co-hosted by the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank, and Global Cleveland, in coordination with the RNC and the Department of State.

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    The state department has invited ambassadors to both party conventions for decades, as an educational program. Several dozen ambassadors from around the world attended the Republican convention this year, according to the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

    According to a justice department official speaking anonymously to the Washington Post when it first reported the story, the meeting was casual: Kislyak and other ambassadors approached Sessions after he finished giving a speech. Sessions then spoke with Kislyak alone, the official said, citing a former staffer for the senator. To say the meeting was “set up by the Obama administration” is false.

    Nor was the second meeting, held on 8 September in Sessions’ office, arranged by the state department. Justice department officials have said Sessions met Kislyak given the senator’s role on the armed services committee, but 20 of 26 members of that panel have said they did not meet with the ambassador in 2016.

    Where did the claim come from? On Friday, Breitbart News published an article claiming that the state department “sponsored” the July meeting.

    Tweet #2

    Donald J. Trump
    (@realDonaldTrump)
    Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!
    March 4, 2017

    Presidents cannot legally order a wire tap operation unilaterally: federal agents and attorneys would have had to convince a federal judge either of probable cause of a serious crime or that the target of the tap was the agent of a foreign power.

    However, the former British MP Louise Mensch reported in November that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (Fisa) court had granted the FBI a surveillance warrant of “US persons” to investigate possible contacts between Russian banks and Trump’s associates. In January, the BBC reported that the Fisa court had issued its warrant in October.

    Also in January, the Guardian reported that the Fisa court had turned down an initial request for a warrant, and that the judge had asked investigators to narrow the terms of their search.
    On Saturday, Obama denied through a spokesman that he or the White House had any role ordering a wire tap.

    “A cardinal rule of the Obama administration was that no White House official ever interfered with an independent investigation led by the Department of Justice,” said spokesman Kevin Lewis. “As part of that practice neither President Obama nor any White House official ever ordered surveillance on any US citizen. Any suggestion otherwise is simply false.”

    The spokesperson did not deny that intelligence officials had requested or employed surveillance of Trump associates.

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    Though leaks from the intelligence community have shown that Trump associates, including former campaign chief Paul Manafort, former adviser Carter Page and former national security adviser Michael Flynn, are included in an investigation into Kremlin activities, it remains unclear what direct evidence of wrongdoing, if any, the agencies have gathered.

    It is not unusual for high-level campaign officials to meet ambassadors, but those meetings are typically with representatives of US allies, like Britain and France, and not with those of rivals such as Russia. So far, denials have proven more damning to Trump officials than the content of their conversations: Flynn was caught having misled the vice-president about his contacts with Kislyak and Sessions testified under oath that he “did not have communications with the Russians” during the campaign.

    Tweet #3

    Donald J. Trump
    (@realDonaldTrump)
    Just out: The same Russian Ambassador that met Jeff Sessions visited the Obama White House 22 times, and 4 times last year alone.
    March 4, 2017

    Only ambassadors from nations with the most acrimonious relations with the US – or no relations at all – do not visit the White House. Even the cold war did not deter Russian ambassadors from visiting it; Cuba sent its first ambassador in decades in 2015.

    This information is not “just out” – over its eight years the Obama White House reported most of its visitors to the public, a practice so far discontinued by the Trump White House. On Friday, Breitbart reported that Kislyak visited the White House 22 times in seven years, citing a Dally Caller story that used the old logs.

    Tweet #4

    Donald J. Trump
    (@realDonaldTrump)
    Is it legal for a sitting President to be "wire tapping" a race for president prior to an election? Turned down by court earlier. A NEW LOW!
    March 4, 2017

    It would not be legal for a sitting president to unilaterally order surveillance; a federal court would have to approve the surveillance. Trump seems to acknowledge this in an oblique way, with an allusion to the report that the Fisa court at first turned down an initial request for a warrant.

    Though Trump claimed he “just found out” about reported surveillance, he is privy to intelligence briefings in which officials would have informed him about such operations. Both Obama and Trump received these briefings during the transition, for instance, reportedly, about an unsubstantiated dossier regarding links between Trump’s campaign and Russian officials.

    Tweet #5

    Donald J. Trump
    (@realDonaldTrump)
    I'd bet a good lawyer could make a great case out of the fact that President Obama was tapping my phones in October, just prior to Election!
    March 4, 2017

    Trump presents baseless rumor as fact here, saying Obama “was tapping my phones in October” without providing any evidence of the former president’s agency in the investigation or of the surveillance itself. The Obama administration did not formally accuse Russia of interfering in the election until early October 2016.

    Tweet #6

    Donald J. Trump
    (@realDonaldTrump)
    How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!
    March 4, 2017

    Again, Trump presents a claim without evidence, this time as condemnation. As he earlier compared the overall Russia investigation to “McCarthyism” – the 1950s anti-communist crusade by Senator Joe McCarthy, who often resorted to baseless claims – Trump now invokes the Watergate scandal, in which President Richard Nixon’s White House spied on his political opponents.

    Unlike that scandal, however, which involved illegal break-ins, intimidation and surveillance by people with links to the White House, the current investigations are being handled by federal courts and intelligence agencies that fall under the authority of the attorney general. On Thursday, Sessions recused himself.
     
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  3. 69magpie

    69magpie Mischievous Magpie

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    Not the Obama people.

    He has directly accused Obama.

    He has NO proof........other than what he has heard.

    It probably came from the same source as "The Bowling Green Massacre"
     
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  4. shootersa

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    Well, lets see if a sitting President can jail a former President.
    Going to be interesting.
     
    1. xxxaddict76
      @shootersa. Not when your evidence comes from Levin and Breitbart. All Trump would need to do if there was evidence is declassify. If there was a legal order for a wiretap then Dipshit just exposed a legal criminal investigation. Good luck getting any more information from intelligence analysts. Fucking moron. Also, expect to be sued royally if the request (even made) was legally justified.
       
      xxxaddict76, Mar 5, 2017
  5. NoOneFamous

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    Donny is full of shit
     
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  6. slutwolf

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    The fool is a slow learner , isn't he.

    Still living the delusional life of a reality TV star ,
    with the mistaken belief that alternative truths will somehow rescue his paranoid ego.

    He doesn't seem to have a clue ,
    let alone grasp the reality that ,
    as a rather unpopular minority president ,
    bullshit won't help improve his poor standing , at home or abroard ,
    and the way to improve it ,
    is to actually get on and do some things that actually make a real difference.
    Not just blowing about a couple of inconsequential distractions ,
    and telling everyone how great he is.
     
  7. xxxaddict76

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    How Trump could settle the debate around his wiretapping allegations

    Some problems are hard to solve. President Trump’s assertion that President Barack Obama was tapping his phones prior to the election is not one of them.

    The media, of course, is dutifully reporting denials of Trump’s charges from Obama’s spokesman and sources in the intelligence community.

    And, as expected, Trump supporters are jumping to his defense with the argument that the media eagerly takes the word of Trump’s critics whenever they attack him, but won’t — unfairly — give credence to what Trump has to say.

    These denials, countercharges and partisan bickering about Trump’s assertion could go on for days.

    Trump can settle the whole thing immediately.
    Release the evidence that backs up the charge.
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    Assuming Trump didn’t make it up — such an explosive accusation against a president, if false, not only would be slanderous and defamatory, but would deserve national censure best expressed in a joint congressional resolution.

    The nation needs to know definitively if Obama did the dastardly and unlawful deed Trump has accused him of performing.

    The answer doesn’t require much think time from Trump.

    As president, he not only has access to all of the intelligence and law enforcement information gathered by the federal government, including information gathered by surreptitious surveillance. He also — and here’s where his clout is clear — as the nation’s chief executive, and commander in chief, can authorize the release of U.S. government information that he wishes to release.

    So, the president can, and should, back up his latest play on the nation’s attention and emotions.
     
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  8. freethinker

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    His cheese has completely slid off it's cracker.
     
  9. Bron Zeage

    Bron Zeage I am a river to my people

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    Your boy just fucked himself royally.
     
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    1. Mr Smith 36
      Have you not read the Obama spokesman response? Never wiretapped a US citizen. Never!!! hmm remember James Rosen? Not only Mr Rosen but Mr Rosen's family. How about the APP reporter? Some people have a short memory...
       
      Mr Smith 36, Mar 5, 2017
    2. Bron Zeage
      It's Trump and his minions, who have a short memory. Something about talking to a Russian gives them sporadic amnesia.
      This may come as a shock to you, but wire taps are a real thing and have been for a long time. They've been around for so long, a precise procedure has been developed to control their use. Police agencies wiretap people all the time. They go to a judge, present their evidence, and the judge says, yes or no. In the case of our current President, who claims anonymous news sources are fake and liars, but believes them when they say he was wiretapped, a special judge must pass on the wiretap.
       
      Bron Zeage, Mar 5, 2017
    3. Bron Zeage
      If any of this is a fact, and not the paranoid ravings of our 45th President, it means that evidence exists of a crime, by someone in the Trump organization and campaign staff. Chances are good, the people involved are still working for him. Chances are even better, these people are now talking to the prosecutors and carving out deals to keep themselves out of prison, and out of reach of the Russians.
       
      Bron Zeage, Mar 5, 2017
    4. Mr Smith 36
      You must not be aware of the facts about this matter. Of course they got a FISA, they tried in June, the judge turned them down. Told them to narrow their scope, they did and were approved. They have been wiretapping him since early October. Needless to say they have found nothing on President Trump, however they did leak info about Flynn's conversations with the Russian, which were not illegal by the way. Perhaps we should wait until you can update yourself on the facts. They have been in the papers for months, no one has been paying very close attention. They have managed to get Sessions to recuse himself, but I doubt they'll get away with their scheme to railroad the Trump administration. Aren't you concerned at all about the implications of a administration spying on a opposition party candidate for president?
       
      Mr Smith 36, Mar 5, 2017
    5. Bron Zeage
      I'm not concerned about something which likely never happened. It's conservatives who are easy victims of confirmation bias. The only people who need to worry about the implications of the wiretaps are the people whose voices are on the tape. At this point, there are a dozen topics which could sink Trump. A mention of the Clinton campaign and the hacking is one. Another could be anything to do with laundering Russian money through real estate deals, or better yet, talk about relaxing sanctions in return for any of the previous.
      Trump has surrounded himself with people he can't trust. He had a NSA who lied to the Vice President, about something you say, "which were not illegal by the way." He doesn't know what they are doing in his name. Nixon had no idea what Gordon Liddy was doing for him, but ended up resigning because of it. The strange thing about that was, none of Nixon's men lied to him about what they were doing.
       
      Bron Zeage, Mar 5, 2017
  10. 69magpie

    69magpie Mischievous Magpie

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    Why would anyone need to tap into anything Donnie is saying in private.

    All they need to is wait till Donnie himself blurts it into his Twitter account.
     
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  11. 69magpie

    69magpie Mischievous Magpie

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    Double post.
     
  12. Sanity_is_Relative

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    FISA gave the FBI a warrant to tap the phones of Trump and his associates for an investigation into their contact with Russian officials and banks, that is a known fact.
    The president himself cannot order any investigation on anyone, that is also a known fact.
    The rest of whet President Cheeto is claiming is all innuendo and farce designed to obfuscate facts to keep the followers chasing the carrot on the string he dangles.
     
  13. freethinker

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    Blame whoever it was that gave the Twit-in-Chief access to his Twitter account again. It's like giving a child a loaded gun.
     
  14. xxxaddict76

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    Great tweet.

    3 bad options: 1-POTUS made false allegation 2- Obama illegally wire tapped Trump 3-FBI legally witetapped Trump w/probable cause of crime
    7:17 PM · Mar 4, 2016
     
  15. M4MPetCock

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    When has that stopped any anti-Trumper?
     
  16. ace's n 8's

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    You and Ben Rhodes believe that dont you?

    Both of you are 100% wrong, so that leads to one outcome, a coverup by the leftists.

    Its crystal clear, Obama ordered the tap.
     
  17. ace's n 8's

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    McGhan is working on that as we speak.

    He's looking for the documents.



     
    1. xxxaddict76
      @ace's n 8's. Will need to talk with DOJ, NSA, and FBI. Sessions leads DOJ. Should not be difficult. Of course I believe all requests were legal. So...
       
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  18. xxxaddict76

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    Moron. President of the United States cannot order the wiretap. This has to be done by DOJ, NSA, or FBI. If the wiretap was authorized by FISA then there was probable cause. Sorry to burst your bubble. It does appear there was an ongoing investigation by the FBI with Trump associates involving contact with Russians as well as Russian banks. The FBI was recording all phone conversations with Russian government officials. These recordings brought down Flynn, Manifort, and possibly others. So if everything was legal (which it probably was) I look for Obama to sue Trump for liable.
     
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      you are calling someone a moron - but you cannot spell libel????

      you are "liable" to be a democrat aren't you :)
       
      shari69, Mar 5, 2017
    2. xxxaddict76
      Libel.
       
      xxxaddict76, Mar 5, 2017
    3. shari69
      yes, i know - i have already pointed that out to you
       
      shari69, Mar 5, 2017
    4. xxxaddict76
      Libel.
       
      xxxaddict76, Mar 5, 2017
  19. xxxaddict76

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    This is pure comedy. Better hope something illegal is found or President Dipshit is in trouble.

    I will say it again...

    3 bad options: 1-POTUS made false allegation 2- Obama illegally wire tapped Trump 3-FBI legally witetapped Trump w/probable cause of crime
    7:17 PM · Mar 4, 2016
     
  20. ace's n 8's

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    You're embarrassing yourself.

    POTUS can order a wire tap, without a warrant, through the DOJ.
     
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