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  1. imported__2355

    imported__2355 Ungodly Intelligent And Attractive

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    What has been disproven in the Steel dossier? And how does treating the psychotic (There really is no other way to describe someone who murders his uncle by throwing him chained and naked into a pit full of dogs to be eaten alive) dictator of a pariah nation who is playing with nuclear weapons as an equal on the world stage NOT elevate his standing before most of the rest of the world?
     
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  2. shootersa

    shootersa Frisky Feline

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    Not Shooters day to educate you. Do a little homework and see what has been proven, disproven, and unproven. Then you can apologize to the forum.

    Look. The fat fuck is a whack job of the first order. He is also, like it or not, the political leader of North Korea. Has been leader long enough that he doesn't need our acknowledgement to "elevate" his status.
    We aren't talking about some revolutionary standing on the steps of the local government house that was just overrun by thugs, claiming he is now the lifetime leader of (insert country here).
     
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    imported__2355 Ungodly Intelligent And Attractive

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    That is exactly what we are talking about. The Kim regime came to power in the 50s in an attempted coup of the Korean government by communist allied rebels looking for an easy takeover in the post Japanese occupation era. They were nearly defeated by allied troops but were saved at the last minute by communist troops from China that crossed the border. The fighting led to a stalemate and an Armastice, but never a surrender or formal end of hostilities.
    The Kim's grandfather took power and kept the whole North on a war footing. His father inherited the war status and kept it, passing it on to Un.
    It has always been US policy NOT to engage in any way with the Kim without all of the other players in the war present, and never face to face with our respective leaders until the war status was formally ended. It still has not been settled.
     
  4. anon_de_plume

    anon_de_plume Porn Star

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    But not because shooter actually could educate anyone... But because he can't educate anyone without exposing his serious lack of knowledge...
     
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      :p:D
       
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      And that's the best you can do... When reason escapes you...
       
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  5. shootersa

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    Huh. So, 3 generations after your so called "coup" the leadership of North Korea is illegitimate.
    Ignoring that after WWII, like a lot of countries Japan fucked over in the first half of the 20th century, Korea was split, with Russia in North Korea and the US and it's allies in South Korea. As legitimate as what happened with Vietnam after WWII. Or Germany. And if you are logically correct, why the FUCK were we talking with Castro under the Obama administration?

    In any case, lets cut to the chase. By your logic, If North Korea is an illegitimate government 3 generations after they became the leaders, The US government is equally illegitimate almost 250 years after we tossed the British and their tea in the ocean.
     
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  6. imported__2355

    imported__2355 Ungodly Intelligent And Attractive

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    I didn't support normalization with Castro and still dont, unlike the Trumpster who tried to see if he could licence a hotel there. And as long as we are nominally at war in Korea I won't support normalizing the Kim, either.
     
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    Trump's "Castro business"? You mean two decades ago? Is that what you're talking about?
    You should now be an ardent Trump supporter since Trump restricted travel to Cuba as one of his early acts in office. You know, cause Obama wanted to normalize Cuba/US relations?
    Jesus

    But, shooter will let President Trump know you expect him to go back to the old days, when we didn't talk to people like Kim, cause, you know, fuck em. Let em build their nukes, and threaten people in the region, and kill their own people in horrific ways.
     
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  8. imported__2355

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    You need to work on your reading skills. I don't oppose talking to the NKs. Lord knows the ROK would really like to peruse normalization. But the talks need to go 6 ways not 2. ROK, Japan, China, Russia, DPRK and the US all need to be involved. Because, you know, war status and all.
    And yes, two decades ago the Trumpster tried to circumvent the Cuban embargo. And trying to pretend his reversal of Obama's normalization policy there was anything but his own policy of trying to wipe the black guy's legacy out is ludicrous, so don't bother.

    I don't like it on the principle that the Castros are scum and are still in power. When that changes, so can the embargo. Same goes for the Kim.
     
  9. stumbler

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    None of the Steele dossier has been "disproven." There are some parts that have not been confirmed yet but nothing it it so far has proven false and more than a half dozen things in the dossier have been proven true.
     
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      Most of the dossier is at best circumstantial and at worse a pretty bad Hollywood script. In every analysis I've seen, the dossier relies on a tangled web of threads which have no connection to one another. Fluff and mirrors.

      But like all allegations against Trump, they are unproven and still have not seen the rendering of justice. This is something that Trump's detractors do not want, for when they are dismissed, the opposition loses it's voice.
       
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  10. stumbler

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    Trump’s lawyers fear he gave Mueller a massive gift with this week’s Putin disaster: CNN

     
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    stumbler Porn Star

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    Questions mount over Trump-Putin discussions

     
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    Concern in White House over intelligence chief’s Russian summit surprise

     
    1. tenguy
      More to follow, stay tuned to this channel for another episode of “the stumbles syndrome”. Brought to you by paranoia.
       
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      More to follow
       
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      More to follow
       
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    stumbler Porn Star

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    WOW someone is sure shook up.
     
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      No the fucking comment button was stuck
       
      tenguy, Jul 21, 2018
  14. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    There is no method to Trump's behavior, only madness. He behaves impulsively and does not think about the long term implications of his behavior.
     
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      Why should he, he has all of y’all to worry about it.
       
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      Sort of like Obama did with Russia when he wrote of his opponents warnings. Or when under his watch and the incompetents he put in charge of the intelligence agencies all this happened. These same incompetents that couldn't do a thing to stop this but are so quick to criticize the current leadership for trying to improve relations.

      Or how about the fact that the very same people supposed to be investigating this incident haven't actually even examined the most crucial piece of evidence namely the DNC servers. Mind you this very oversight would result in all the evidence they have from the third party being thrown out of court do to the defense not being able to do their own examination of the evidence.

      However since the actual indictments related to the offense are only for show this doesn't matter technically.
       
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    I've got a question for all of the calling out Trump not being Hard enough on Putin.

    What do you actually want done to Putin?


    Massive sanctions through the UN even though Russia has a veto that can't be over turned.

    Or how about cutting all ties with the Russian government regardless of if they are beneficial.
     
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    1. tenguy
      You are asking for the use of reason and logic by the unreasonable and illogical.
       
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      Well I was going to mention that we actually do need Russia for several things including getting our astronauts to and from the space station. However I suspect they would rather have a president call out Putin as a liar. Even though it's serves no purpose but making future cooperation difficult at best.

      Though I'm also certain that since they are so heavily invested in the excuse that Russia was the reason Hillary lost they don't even care if our astronauts are left with no way down or we have more problems dealing with countries like North Korea without the Russians.
       
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      Check previous posts in this thread. That has already been answered.
       
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  18. stumbler

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    Yeah this is a shot across Trump's bow. It is a warning.

    ‘The disconnect cannot continue’: Trey Gowdy calls on intel officials to resign if Trump won’t listen on Russia

     
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    Ex-FBI special agent turned GOP Congressman ‘frankly sickened’ by Helsinki: Trump ‘was manipulated by Vladimir Putin’

     
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    Nothing to him, other than to halt his expansionist tendencies. Crimea and the Ukraine are examples of Putin's desire to rebuilt the old territories of the old USSR. If what Putin has on Trump convinces him to allow Putin to move on the Ukraine, that could be a serious game changer.