Your link did not work. The article I saw says nothing about who the attacker was. No name was given or if the attacker was a Moslem or not. However the fact that he said "infidel, you must die" and "Allahu akbar" as he stabbed four people... gives us a big hint.

All we have is a preliminary report. We'll have to wait and see. But considering the hundreds of reported attacks in Germany and the fact that the German government has tried to sweep all the problems they've had with Moslems under the rug... you'll have to excuse my skepticism. Anyway, this case is just a drop in the bucket and won't really add much to the long list of Moslem crimes committed in Europe.

 

I'm fucked. They hate atheists as much as anyone.

When we are overrun by the Saracen Horde, we will be liquidated in this order:

1. Journalists

2. Whiney leftist pukes who claim to know the Call to Prayer and fuck it up

3. LGBTQ

4. Anyone left alive after the three purges who has a COEXIST bumpersticker

5. Atheists

6. Infidels

7. Apostates

8. Moslems

 

Watch this Maggie.

 

The west has been at war since Bin Laden declared it in 1969.
You people keep forgetting that.

 

@Hardrive
And you watch this... Waleed Aly, not a lunatic but a man of knowledge...... an Australian writer, academic, lawyer, media presenter and musician

 

Pew Research JANUARY 18, 2011

When asked about the death penalty for those who leave the Muslim religion, at least three-quarters of Muslims in Jordan (86%), Egypt (84%) and Pakistan (76%) say they would favor making it the law.
http://www.pewresearch.org/daily-number/stoning-adulterers/

 

Reply to Distant Lover's post: As barbaric as that seems to us... killing people that want to leave a religion is perfectly normal for Moslems. Why? Because that is the way they were brought up. Moslem children are brainwashed from infancy to believe in Sharia law as God's law. How can you argue about that. If god says that's what you must do then that's what you must do. That's why Moslems say they prefer the barbaric Sharia law over the freedoms and human rights protections of our constitution. They say our laws are man made but Sharia law comes from god, and Allah is infallible.

It's not about logic, it about a deeply ingrained belief system. They will fight for that belief system, kill for that belief system and die for that belief system. Because that is what Allah tells them to do. And that's what makes them so dangerous.

If you understand that, you understand why Moslems are willing to blow themselves up for their cause.

 

Even Moslem Imam's are waking up to the truth about Islam.

 

Well, this thread has dropped to the 3rd page on the forum so I'll consider the voting over.
20 of you said "yes" we should allow Moslems into our country.
19 said "No" we should keep them out of the country.
7 said they can come but only if they renounce the teachings of Mohammed and reform their religion.
Actually those 7 votes have to be regarded as "No" votes because Moslems who renounce Mohammed and want to reform Islam would no longer be Moslems, so those voters do not want Moslems in the country.

THE FINAL COUNT IS:
"YES" VOTES 20
"NO" VOTES 26

CONCLUSION...THE MAJORITY OF VOTERS DON'T WANT MOSLEMS IN OUR COUNTRY.

 

No........the final count is in the positive.

Just because you don't like the vote it doesn't mean you can shift the goal posts to suit your agenda.

 

I stand by the final count. A total of 26 voters said they do not want (Moslems) people who believe in Mohammed and his hateful religion in this country. I too would allow Moslems in if they reformed Islam and got rid of Mohammed and everything he stands for. Because, as I said before, once you get rid of Mohammed and his toxic influence on Islam, you no longer have the danger that Moslem's pose to the world. Taking Mohammed out of Islam is like defanging the viper. With no teeth and no lethal venom, there would be nothing to fear from Moslems and no reason to keep them out.

Now I have a question for you. Do you think Islam is fine the way it is? Do you support the teachings of Mohammed and agree with the goals he set for Islam... 'to conquer the world for Allah and convert or kill all those who refuse to submit?'

Only a true and devote Moslem would support those goals.

And before you start calling me an ignorant, bigoted raciest... I want to remind you of two things. (1) I have been studying Islam for over 20 years so I do know what I'm talking about when I say that Islam is a dangerous ideology that needs to be eradicated... and (2) remember that there are hundreds of videos all over the internet describing Islamic atrocities and lots of Moslem protesters and Imams carrying signs and boasting that that they will conquer the world for Allah and that everyone will convert to Islam.

If you have an argument it would not be just against me, but against 1400 years of Islamic aggression and atrocities, and all the current terrorist activates and atrocities that are going on all over the world. Tell history and current events that there is nothing wrong with Islam and that we have nothing to fear from Moslem ideology.

 

I am not disputing you. I just want you to share your knowledge a bit. I have read translations of the Koran by Marmaduke Pickthall and J.M. Rodwell, as well as excerpts in Harvard Classics translated by E.H. Palmer.

What translations have you read?

I have made a more thorough study of the Bible, and I have read much of Biblical exegesis. What do we know about the writing of the Koran?

Mohammed is believed to have been illiterate, and to have dictated the Koran to a scribe. My impression of Mohammed is that his knowledge of the Bible is similar to that of a man who has never read the Bible, but who remembers Bible stories from Sunday school as a child. He remembers anecdotes, but does not understand the theology expressed by the Old Testament prophets and by St. Paul in the New Testament.

Although Mohammed claimed to be God's greatest prophet, he knows nothing of the writing prophets like Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Amos.

 

DL said: ...Mohammed is believed to have been illiterate, and to have dictated the Koran to a scribe. My impression of Mohammed is that his knowledge of the Bible is similar to that of a man who has never read the Bible, but who remembers Bible stories from Sunday school as a child. He remembers anecdotes, but does not understand the theology expressed by the Old Testament prophets and by St. Paul in the New Testament.

Although Mohammed claimed to be God's greatest prophet, he knows nothing of the writing prophets like Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Amos.
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I'm not surprised that you have taken the time to read through all those religious texts. Most people here don't appreciate it but I know that you're the kind of person that really looks into a subject before voicing his opinion.

You asked about my background so here a little info. I got into religious studies through my interest in Psychology (my college major), philosophy and science. I wanted to know not only the "how" of things but the "why" and how it all related to me. "I think therefore I am."

I was born a Catholic but turned to science by the time I was in high school. However the more I learned about science the more questions I had about the meaning of existence, life and consciousness. That lead me to reexamine Christianity and Judaism which got me interested in Greek and Norse Mythology. That in turn led me to look into comparative modern religions which eventually let me to Islam.

I've read the Koran a long time ago but can't remember the translator as that was unimportant to me at the time. I can remember that the version I read had a lot of Arabic scrip with notes about alternate translations based on different interpretations of specific Arabic words. It was all very boring, difficult to read and even more difficult to understand. The Koran is not linier so it's hard to follow. I finally gave up on having a first hand understanding of the Koran and the hadith. Instead I began to rely on guides, books with commentary, articles, lectures and reading specific passages of the Koran as they related to whatever book I was reading about Islam.

I learned a lot from a collection of books I bought called, "Great Religions of Modern Man." Especially a book called "Islam" by John Alden Williams. That book blended history with Islamic passages and gave me a more rounded understanding. I next read "The reality of Man." by BAHA'U'LLAH and ABDU'L-BAHA'. that was more about philosophy. A friend recommend that I read "The Prophet" by KAHILL GIBRAN, I thought that was a book about Mohammed but it was a book of poetry and not about Islam. I really enjoyed that book and if that were all I ever read from an Arab writer I would have walked away with a favorable view. But then came 911 and I really got interested in Islam. I wanted to know what would motivate anyone to fly a plane into a building full of innocent people.

That lead me to several books and articles about the life of Mohammed and how he invented a religion based on what he remembered from what was read to him about the Torah and the Gospels. After that I read everything I could about Islam until I felt that I understood how Islam came about, why it came about and how it has affected western culture.

To this date I am still educating myself about Islam and the more I learn the more I'm horrified about the Islamic Ideology and how it has polluted the minds of millions and destroyed the lives of many more.

I've also read the Bible and it was a lot easier to read and understand than the Koran. I didn't have to understand Hebrew, Greek or Latin to understand the bible and I've read the King James Version, the New Jerusalem Bible, the New Standard Version, the Gnostic gospels and the Book of Q which is also known as the Lost Gospel, and many more.

And yes your right. Mohammed did take bits and parts of the bible and dictated it to scribes to get the original version of the Koran, though there is some evidence that some non plagiarized parts of the Koran pre-date Mohammed. Since the original Koran is based on the Torah and the Gospels, Mohammed ended up with a Monotheistic, Abrahamic religion. He wanted it to sound like the Torah since he expected the Jews to accept him as a Prophet. When they rejected him he went crazy and turned on the Jews. After that he became a warlord and changed the Koran to reflect his new bellicose philosophy.

 

I was born an Episcopalian, and continue to go to church. I study and respect each of the world's great religions. There are aspects of Islam that I appreciate, but of non Christian religions I appreciate Judaism and Buddhism more.

 

If I had to choose a religion I would be a Taoist.

Two great books on Taoism:

The Tao of Pooh

Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance (yes, I know, the title implies Buddhism, but it reads like a Taoist parable)

And of course you can't call yourself a Buddhist unless you've read Dharma Bums!

 

If you are really serious about Taoism, read Tao Te Ching, by Lao Tsu, and translated by Gia-Fu Feng and Jane English, and Inner Chapters by Chuang Tsu, and translated by Gia-Fu Feng and Jane English. Those are the ancient scriptures of Taoism. They deserve to be read many times in several translations, but I have found those to be the best translations.

I see Taoism as the art of how at least to survive, and best to thrive when one cannot achieve victory in competitive situations through an obvious superiority. I think it must have been popular among Chinese scholars who could not pass the Imperial Exams and enter the Scholar Gentry.

Religious Taoism consists of the worship of the deities the Chinese believed in before Buddhism entered China with deities borrowed from Hinduism.

 

At least the Dalai Lama is always good for a laugh.

 

He's got the right agenda, you obviously don't.

 

I've read the Tao te Ching. I've also read the Analects of Confucius and the Bhagavad-Gita

(shrug)

Inner Chapters, no. I'll check it out.

Tao of Pooh has a silly title, but it's a serious book.

Incidentally, one of my favorite books on object oriented software architecture (with a C++/Object-Pascal focus) is a book called The Tao of Objects by Gary Entsminger (M&T Books, 1990).

(Oh... that's right... I'm not really a software designer... oops....)