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Can Muslims live in America as fellow citizens?

  1. Yes they can. We should welcome them with open arms.

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    43.8%
  2. No they can't. We should ban them from entering our country.

    42 vote(s)
    40.0%
  3. Yes but only if they renounce the teachings of Mohammd and reform their religion.

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  1. Hardrive

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    Interesting idea Wolfman. That could be funny show. Sort of a middle-eastern "Odd Couple." Here is my question to you. Which one of the two men would be the Moslem? Would he be Felix or Oscar? I think the Moslem would be the fastidious Felix. What do you think?
     
  2. SilverLycan

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    Yeah actually, my idea is that the Muslim would be a clean cut, neat, rather mild mannered accountant or something, and I'd be his nature loving, long haired, long bearded, messy room mate, who is unsure about the role religion should play in modern life. I basically believe religion should be a very private, personal thing and it shouldn't influence other people. If someone asks about your religion, share some stuff with them, but don't try to convert them. In this era, with the kind of access to information many of us have, we can find out more about religions directly from the source if we choose to pursue it.

    On the TV show, maybe the neat Muslim can have a messy cousin, and I'd have some other neat family member visit as guest stars.
     
  3. Hardrive

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    I know you must be pulling my leg but just in case, have you ever seen the "Odd Couple?" There's a Move, an old TV show and a new TV show.
     
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      OC is on regularly for me, `Comedy Gold' I believe, I used to watch this when it aired up to `75, the last season. Oscar Madison and Felix Unger.
       
      Wafarer, May 27, 2016
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    Here in Austrslia the government paid $55 million dollars to the Cambodian government to take just 5 refugees off our hands.

    That's $11 million dollars for each refugee.

    http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-...to-cambodia-under-$55m-deal-have-left/7452542

    $11 million dollars per person.

    Here's an idea, lets hand out the money to the refugees before they leave their country. That'd save the wait, the paperwork and just give them "their money".


     
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    I wonder if any other "taxpayer funded western government" is paying that sorta money?
     
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    Sounds good, save a little money and cut out the middle man.
     
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    Meanwhile this week in Egypt a mob of Muslims attacked a elderly Christian woman. MODERATE Muslims.

    The Muslim attackers, incensed at the idea that a Christian man would have an interfaith relationship with a Muslim woman, descended upon the man’s home and proceeded to beat his elderly mother before stripping her naked and parading her through the streets.

    “A Muslim mob ransacked and torched seven Christian homes in a province south of the Egyptian capital, Cairo, after rumors spread that a Christian man had an affair with a Muslim woman, according to a statement by the local Orthodox Coptic church.

    “Released late Wednesday, it said that during the May 20 attack, the mother of the Christian man, who had fled the village, was publicly stripped of her clothes by the mob to humiliate her.

    “Security officials said the woman was beaten and insulted while being paraded by the mob through the village. They said the mob was made of about 300 men.”

    If you were to believe the narrative of American liberals, this sort of violence is of an ISIS nature, not a Muslim nature, but none of these men were flying the flag of the Muslim extremists.
     
    1. Hardrive
      People just don't want to understand. Islam is a radical, intolerant and barbaric religion. They are what they are and what they have been for 1400 years. We are the fools and the dopes that are letting them take over our counties because we are too blind and too PC to see what is right before our eyes. Wake up Europe, .... Wake up America. You may not get a second chance to get it right.
       
      Hardrive, May 28, 2016
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      One thing we are forgetting, these are the people the liberals who call us BIGOTS, are defending. If there ever was a BIGOT it would be a Muslim. Attacking this poor old woman because her son dared have a relationship with another human being. Liberals, defenders of Muslims, aren't you just a little ashamed of yourselves?
       
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    3. Hardrive
      What a lot of people don't understand about Moslems is that they consider themselves Allah's chosen. As such they are exceptional and are the only people that have value in Allah's eyes.

      All non-Moslems are infidels and are considered filth and not as good as a Moslem. They are to be killed or subjected as slaves or if they have needed skills they can become dhimmi (second class citizens but only if they pay the jizya which is a tax that protects them from being killed)

      The point I am making here is that in Islamic society a mon-Moslem has little value and can be killed or humiliated if they step out of the position given to them under Islamic law.
       
      Hardrive, May 29, 2016
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    Will England soon be an Islamic state. Here is one man's opinion.

     
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    I can't understand why the British aristocracy are letting it happen?
     
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    There is much deceit coming from Muslims. They have completely fooled the educated left. Or at least they (the left) are still agreeing with their elitist's talking points. Will they wake up before it's too late?
     
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    It won't do any good. 69magpie has a few delusional beliefs that he enjoys believing in. I wonder if he really believes them, or if he just feels virtuous saying them.
     
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      Pot. Kettle.
      Your beliefs have been challenged and dis proven so many times in this forum that you should blush in writing this kind of drivel.
       
      shootersa, May 29, 2016
  12. Distant Lover

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    Affluent whites live and work in safe neighborhoods. In addition they are highly civilized and have difficulty understanding those who are less evolved than they are. This is even true of affluent conservative whites. National Review has become a bastion of political correctness.

    When John Derbyshire posted "The Talk - Non Black Version," National Review fired him.

    http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_nonblack_version_john_derbyshire/print#axzz4A159S9Uy
     
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    What saddens me is that they call us racist and bigots for saying the exact same things that the Islamist are saying in the video you posted. They don't believe us and they won't believe their own ears when they hear the Islamist telling them exactly what they plan to do to us. What hope is there for us when our leaders and our fellow citizens are such idiots. It's as if they want to be ruled by Islam. They have no idea what life will be like us and our children and grandchildren under shariah. They'll be sorry when the see our culture disappear and be replaced by a medieval torture chamber... but by that time their tears will be too late.
     
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    "That's racist!" has become the generic response to legitimate and well documented complaints about blacks and Arabs. Think of all the times I have posted credible documentation that blacks tend to be much less intelligent than whites everywhere in the world that they live, and have much higher crime rates. Has anyone proven that I am mistaken? No. They just shout "You are a racist!" at me.

    The average IQ of the Arabs is about as low as that of American blacks. What have Arabs achieved since the thirteenth century? Nothing worth talking about.
     
    1. shootersa
      Your "credible documentation" is anything but.
      And every time you post your rants we have to ask;

      What source, and how is race defined and determined in your documentation?

      You see, "race" is a social construct, not a scientific one.
      But you already know all that.

      And every time you shout out
      "NIGGERS IS VIOLENT AND STUPID"
      It reflects more on your intelligence (or lack of) than on the group you claim to know so well.

      And your tendency to repeat it at every opportunity also reflects poorly on you.
      Find some new material why not?
       
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    DL said... "That's racist!" has become the generic response to legitimate and well documented complaints about blacks and Arabs. Think of all the times I have posted credible documentation that blacks tend to be much less intelligent than whites everywhere in the world that they live, and have much higher crime rates. Has anyone proven that I am mistaken? No. They just shout "You are a racist!"
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    My beef is with the Islamic ideology. Why this ideology has mainly caught on among Black Africans and Arabs is a separate issue. It may be lack of the ability to engage in critical thinking but that can be caused by many things including their backward culture and lack of education. Or it could be the allure of being told by Islamic that they can become part of an exceptional group of people that are favored by Allah. That and the promise that they will someday rule the world, cupled with the accompanying Islamic promises of death to all non-believers. Maybe it's a combination of all these factors but I definitely would not hang my argument along racial lines. This would derail my argument and turn it into an argument about race and not the dreadful ideology that Islam promotes.

    DL, I think you're a pretty smart and well informed individual. However your focus on race as a defining issue is counter productive. Many American Black have managed to lift themselves out of ghetto poverty through education and a persistent determination to improve themselves. I think the ones that remain in the ghetto are there because of their "victim" ideology coupled with a dedication to a street thug life-style which leads them down the path of additional victimization and failure. The big and important difference between Race and Ideology is that one is set and can not be changed but the other is open to change and improvement. We can't change skin color but we can change minds and attitudes.
     
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      There is a lesson to be learned in this Presidential campaign.
      Disillusioned Americans have flocked to Donald Trump and ignored that he is a pompous gasbag because the Democratic and Republican elite have studiously disenfranchised them while pandering to their fears.

      Radical Islam has done the same as Trump, offering a new path for the disenfranchised, the outcasts, and the powerless. That the poor of this nation hear their message should not be a surprise.

      But, apparently, the Clinton machine is so blind to it's own failures and fueled by it's greed for power that it cannot see or hear the message.

      It is arrogant attitudes like Distant Lovers that opens the door for radicals, not genetics and certainly not skin color.
       
      shootersa, May 29, 2016
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    On many occasions I have acknowledged that non cosmetic racial differences overlap. Nevertheless, average differences are significant, and durable enough to strongly indicate genetic causation.
     
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    I know I can't. I'm a woman and I don't consider myself a piece of property. I try to respect all religions but I can't respect theirs.

    I got a PM yesterday. It was from a poster that became a member in 2014 and has 0 public posts. It was very disturbing. He wanted to know if my labia, clit, and G-spot (yes, even the G-spot) had been mutilated. He said it was better if a female had her vagina made pure. I didn't reply at first but after his third message I sent him a picture with a pig and some beer in it and he told me my attitude stinks. But the messages stopped.
     
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      Well I'm glad you learned something about Moslems that will help you decide if you want them coming to our countries and imposing their beliefs on us and our children. I normally don't care what people believe as part of their religion, but Moslems are the exception because they also want to impose their beliefs on everyone. They believe that Allah wants them to convert the world to Islam and kill all those who will not submit. These are not my thoughts, they are the goals of Islam and they will tell you themselves if you listen. (view the above video posted by DL.)
       
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    Okay, let's assume you're right. How can we use that information to change or improve things for Blacks in America or the world? Would it cause blacks to try and do better or would it make them think they are trapped in a genetic group that is doomed to fail.
     
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    You do know that the writings of that man (Paul Weston) were the inspiration for Anders Breivik to murder 77 people, most of them children, don't you? Do you condone those killings?

    I dislike Sadiq Khan, I don't think his appointment is a good thing for Britain in general and London in particular, and I do not like Islam nor its doctrines, but there are well over a billion Muslims in the world. You can't fight them all, and you don't need to. The minority that are the problem need to be reached and prevented from peddling their backward ideals and their hatred.

    All the time that the West indiscriminately fears and attempts to repress Islam the stronger it will become, simply as resistance to those attempts. Those of you who are joining in with the biased rabble-rousing are in fact unwittingly sabotaging the very cause you claim to champion. It's time to stop treating 'Islam' as a by-word for 'Enemy' and actively try to bring that most backward of doctrines into the twenty-first century.
     
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    During Mohammed's lifetime Judaism and Christianity were popular among many Arabs. However, Jews were racially exclusive, and made it difficult for Gentiles to convert.

    Christianity was getting tied up in the theological complexities and difficulties of the doctrine of the Trinity. Christianity makes three assertions about Jesus: he is the Messiah foretold by the Old Testament; he is the Son of God; he is God. The first two assertions are found throughout the New Testament, and do not create logical difficulties. The third one does. The divinity of Jesus is hinted at in Philippians 2:5-6, where St. Paul writes, "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: who being in the form of God thought it not robbery to be equal with God."

    The divinity of Jesus is only clearly asserted in the Gospel According to St. John in a number of passages beginning with 1:1,14 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God...And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."

    This is more eloquent than lucid. What it says is that God is the Word, and the Word is Jesus.

    This creates logical problems. Christianity could have believed in three gods: God the Father (who is the Old Testament Yahweh), God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost.

    However, in the Gospel of St. Mark Jesus asserts the Shema, which is one of the holiest Jewish prayers, Mark 12:29 "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord."

    Also, in Matthew 19:17, Mark 10:18, and Luke 18:19 Jesus denies his divinity, saying respectively "And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments," "And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God," and "And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God."

    The Doctrine of the Trinity is a logical contradiction that states: God the Father is God, Jesus Christ is God; the Holy Ghost is God; these are separate; there is one God.

    The Doctrine of the Trinity does not roil contemporary Christians because we do not give it much thought. During the life of Mohammed it did bother Arabs.

    Mohammed combined in his new religion what the Arabs found appealing in Judaism and Christianity, while he excluded what they had difficulty accepting. It is easy to become a Muslim. Muslim theology is simple, and easy to understand. All one needs to do is to say with sincerity:

    "lā ʾilāha ʾillā-llāh, muḥammadur-rasūlu-llāh," which means

    "There is no god but Allah. Muhammad is His Prophet."

    With this creed Mohammed unified the Arab Peninsula. While this was happening the Byzantine Empire and the Persian Empire were fighting a devastating and inclusive war that weakened both of them. This made them vulnerable to Muslim aggression following Mohammed's death. The Arabs conquered Egypt, Palestine, and Syria, which had been Byzantine provinces, and all of Persia.

    Arab civilization dominated the West until the Mongol conquests of the thirteenth century. The Mongols did not conquer the Arab Peninsula. They did conquer and devastate what is now Iraq. At the time what is now Iraq was the center of Arab civilization.

    The Arabs recognize and resent their subordination to the West. They believe they can again become dominant by returning to the Koran.
     
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