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Can Muslims live in America as fellow citizens?

  1. Yes they can. We should welcome them with open arms.

    46 vote(s)
    43.8%
  2. No they can't. We should ban them from entering our country.

    42 vote(s)
    40.0%
  3. Yes but only if they renounce the teachings of Mohammd and reform their religion.

    17 vote(s)
    16.2%
  1. RandyKnight

    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    Who is the current administration.....

    **"37 immigrant laborers scheduled to arrive March 13 under a farmworker
    visa program were delayed by bureaucratic paperwork. ""


    maybe the administration though they where vets needding healthcare?
     
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      The average hourly wage of a U.S. agricultural field worker in April was $12, according to a survey conducted by the USDA. That’s up 5.6 percent from a year earlier.

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      Maybe all those wanting more than min wadge need to head back to the farms......12 bucks an hour..........
       
      RandyKnight, Jun 8, 2016
  2. freespiritx

    freespiritx DreamWeaver

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    It's a well known fact that exceedingly large numbers of Islamic Clerics, are preaching for the invasion, occupation, and destruction of Western Nations.
    It would almost appear that the sudden influx of Islamic refugees invading Europe, Australia and other Western regions, has been an organized strategic methodology
    of invasion, and occupation by utilizing so many single, extremist male Muslims, promoted, and organized by extremist Islamic leaders.

    The economic burden on Western Nations through the distribution of Government Benefits to support the Muslim refugees, could well place many on the brink of bankruptcy.
    Yes! A new weapon of war!
    The devastation of Western civilizations through economic recession, or revisiting the historic tragedies of "The Great Depression".
    The European Union crashes, and so follows the rest of the West, as well as Global implications.

    The war has begun. Terrorism is a daily fact.
    Sharia Law "is being practiced" in regions of the West, along with ever increasing pockets in regions around the globe.
    Whether it's been politically, and legally accepted or not, is irrelevant. The fact is, that it's happening.


    Whether Western Leaders admit the dangers presented by this Islamic flood of refugees publicly, or not, privately that conversation has to be taking place, as some Western Nations have already begun to face certain realities, along with starting the expulsion process of tens of thousands of perceived Islamic threats. Sweden reportedly to expel 80,000 asylum seekers, which is half of the applications of 2015.

    The sad thing is, there are families who've legitimately sought sanctuary, and wish no harm to anyone, but likely will become victimized yet again through no fault of their own, because of the extremely large number of extremists in their midst.

    The fact that Islamic states are refusing to accept, and settle refugees within their own nations, speaks volumes!
     
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      Australia is being invaded????.....where did you get that bullshit from...
       
      69magpie, Jun 9, 2016
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  3. freespiritx

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    Out behind the barn, there's this great big pile of manure, and when shoveling it, found a newspaper called "The Australian", with cartoons about
    Islam, letters to the Editor, as well as articles on extremism, Government benefit abuses, and concerns of the average person on the
    street about Islamic extremism. No bullshit there!
    If your talking about the brown stains on the paper from being covered by the manure, maybe that's the bullshit your referring to!. ;)
     
  4. 69magpie

    69magpie Mischievous Magpie

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    Again, bullshit...... Where's the legitimate journalistic links. Or are you talking about "Joe public's" uninformed opinion pieces in a national rag...
     
  5. freespiritx

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    Reports in a "National Rag" are researched, and verified before publication, and not the opinions of "Joe Public" except in letters to the editor.
    That's the key, RESEARCHED, AND VERIFIED IN A LEGITIMATE NATIONAL RAG AS YOU PUT IT.
    "At no time have I ever condemned all Muslims, and believe there are those who want to live in peace. BUT, those who have exhibited extremist ideologies through their actions, need to be dealt with. Deportation, imprisonment, or whatever is required to legitimately, and justly protect the masses.
     
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    69magpie Mischievous Magpie

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    If you go back to my original query......."Invading Australia", then did a bit of research on Australia's refugee policy then using the word "invading" would be the last word one would use.
     
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      Go and do your on research about how many never work and then chalk up all the government benefits they get. Rental assistance, government housing, subsidised electricity, subsidised phone bill, free healthcare, free childcare, plus the unemployment benefits they sit on. Add to that the family benefit they get for every extra child they have.
       
      Pussy.Patrol, Jun 10, 2016
  7. freespiritx

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    My post was a generalization of the influx of refugees into the West, and have used the words invading/invasion in a number of posts as an analogy of such an extreme occurrence.
    As much as I normally dislike generalizations because of everything being painted with the same brush, I made generalized comments in regard to this extreme influx of immigration into the West because of it's extreme nature along with the excessive impacts on the West in general. I try not to paint all Muslims with the same brush, but sometimes it's difficult remembering to keep inserting such statements into a conversation which is specifically about extreme activities.
     
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  8. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    It is perfectly legitimate to evaluate a group on the basis of the average qualities of those who make up the group.
     
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      Provided one is doing an accurate job of evaluation, this would be a correct statement in many cases. The key is "doing an accurate job of evaluation" and not yanking general statements out of isolated or out of context incidents and then making serious decisions based on them.

      In simple terms, garbage in, garbage out.
       
      shootersa, Jun 12, 2016
  9. Hardrive

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    This is the part you don't understand.... even though you've been told over and over again.
    The so called "Lunatic fringe" of Islam are not lunatics. They are just devote Moslems doing what their lunatic death cult wants them to do. And what Islam and Mohammed wants them to do is to dominate the world, covert everyone to Islam and kill all those that will not submit. That's not what I'm saying.... they say it themselves. Just watch the videos and listen to what they say.

    As for the so-called moderate Moslems who don't want to do what Islam and Mohammed commands them to do. Why the hell do they want to continue being Moslems? A Moslem is a person who follows the teachings of the Koran and Mohammed. How do you modify what the Koran and Mohammed want them to do? Only conquer half the world and only kill or convert half the people?

    There are non so blind as those who will not see.
     
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  10. 69magpie

    69magpie Mischievous Magpie

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    And those that only see hate are the ones that are truly blind.
     
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      How about you fly over to Syria and offer your hand in friendship and see if they don't take your head instead.
       
      Pussy.Patrol, Jun 10, 2016
  11. Hardrive

    Hardrive Porn Star

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    I don't hate Moslems.... I hate Islam for all the horrible things it advocates. Do I need to list what all those horrible things are?
     
  12. 69magpie

    69magpie Mischievous Magpie

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    A question.......How did you vote in your poll?.
     
  13. freespiritx

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    @69magpie , please watch all of the video, and tell me your thoughts.
    Personally, I find it disturbing to say the least.
     
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    69magpie Mischievous Magpie

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    There was no mention of Australia so I'm happy :D

    The lunatic fringe and fanatics, I'm sure I could find just as many crazies from many other faiths raving about how their brand is going to take over the world.

    Does it disturb me......I suppose it does, however I'm also disturbed by the hate that's coming from the other side. The hate that is in this thread.

    What can I do about it....... Promote the good fight, support the Muslims who want to live in peace, and that is the vast majority of them.
     
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  15. ace's n 8's

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    Well, dont you think that the ''peacelovingmuslims' should also be pointing out that there is a problem?

    We might find a small handful out there that have spoken up about this issue, however the vast majority are staying silent about it, dont you see a problem with that?, I know I do.

    Until they start to speak out about the radicals, condemning the radical behavior, they are all linked into the same barrel of religious killers.
     
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  16. Pussy.Patrol

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    The hate that's in this thread?

    The government wants to bring in another 12000.

    Even if 1/10 of one percent is bad that amounts to 12 troublemakers. Do you want to risk having 12 dangerous people in the country? You've seen what happened in Brussels and Paris with just a few troublemakers. One tenth of one percent is enough to cause the same trouble here.

    Are you prepared to put innocent lives at risk because of your "Good Samaritan" attitude?
     
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      Pussy.Patrol, Jun 10, 2016
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    Pussy.Patrol Porn Star

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    69magpie Mischievous Magpie

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    The way the Aussie immigration officials cherry pick who they're letting into the country I highly doubt any troublemakers will get through the net........so Yes, let them in.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-...-syrian-refugees-says-refugee-council/7289918


    AlleyCat, do you still proudly wear your membership medallion.

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  19. Pussy.Patrol

    Pussy.Patrol Porn Star

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    Decades ago there wasn't a problem, was there?
     
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  20. Earthboundhero

    Earthboundhero Porn Star

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    Oh...this thread still exists. Weird.