He existed

The most authoritative book I read on the subject was Paul Guignebert's Jesus, about 600 pages, and I think 2/3 of it was footnotes on sources. After spending decades on reading the best authoritative sources, Guignebert concluded Jesus did exist, he had a small ministry, but not one single happening stated in the New Testament to be miraculous ever happened, i.e. Jesus was very non-godlike. Magnificent book. The most difficult book I ever read, and that includes stuff like texts on Einstein's general relativity and tensor analysis for that, and quantum mechanics. Guignebert was very concise and precise. Good book, still available. Guignebert has high credentials. He was the head of the Department of the History of Christianity at the Sorbonne.

 

'just something I feel in my heart'

That's like taking advice from a compulsive liar about the virtues of honesty.

 

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Now that was fucking funny.

 

There's a chance he didn't exist. He could be an outright fabrication.

Or he could have existed. None us posting on this forum were around back then to know.

From a purely scientific point of view, there's a chance he existed and an equal chance he did not.

But religion is not about fact. I believe that has already been discussed ad nauseum.

 

This essentially sums everything up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inCpro8NEaw

sorry about the audio sync I suggest watch muted porn with the audio from this vid, for a mind blowing experience.

 

It's not important that he lived.
What's important is that he died for your salvation.
Do with it what you will.
I like the possibility of heaven over the certainty of hell.

 

Now I wonder how many would have their heads explode if they found out Jesus was actually a Black lesbian?

 

You know... He would be a black lesbian. It'd make perfect sense, from a purely plot driven point of view.

 

What an idiotic statement, your belief system states there is a heaven and a hell, therefore if one is a certainty then the other is.
What is more probable is that there is no heaven, there is no hell, there are no gods, you only get one chance at living so do it.

 

you will soon meet your maker, and if you think you are full of shit now wait till you meet him.tic toc

 

Judge not, lest ye be judged


You will be judged according to how you judge others. Don't be so arrogant as to think that anyone is beyond redemption. Or that anyone is not within reach of the flame.

 

You make an assumption that is based against scientific proof, whereas they can't find god doesn't mean he isn't there, but that could be because he as fucked off or doesn't exist. If he does appear then I will still refuse to bend my knee and worship him as I feel then he would be unworthy.

 

He existed but he was never the son of god. He was a man with some good ideas none of them new and the crucifixion was pure bull.

 

Crucifixion was actually a standard execution method. Whether or not he died on a cross is related to whether or not he existed in the first place. Crucifixion wasn't something done just to Christians. In the story of the crucifixion, Jesus is being executed along with two thieves, so clearly his being crucified did not mark him as anything special.

 

More info than just the bible

Many people assume that the stories we have about Jesus are simply originated from the Bible alone. The interesting thing is that there were so many different references to the man known as Jesus as well as the movement, Christianity, that arose surrounding him. But all of the sources were not only from Christians professing His name. They were groups that opposed and rejected Him regularly. Their writings debated the teachings surrounding Christianity, which alone gives creedance to His existence. Followers wrote first hand eye-witness testimony of his works, while others insisted that He was not the Son of God. The historical question: Did Jesus really live, has been proved through historical documents in the same manner that George Washington or Abraham Lincoln have been.

Whether or not someone wants to believe that He was Messiah is up to them, but I believe that history has proved his existence as well as His authority.

 

What I think?

Most likely, that Jesus had just been an ordinary man who helped people. and when he died on the cross, people abused his legacy and made him into some sort of mythical figure. (Remember that the Bible was written long after Jesus's death.)

If Jesus had been written as a normal man, then people would have had more respect for him. It's just in this time of technology and the lunacity of the catholic church, that people are finding it hard to believe in the "son of god".

 

hogwash.

name one.

 

if he did, then he was the a damn good motivational speaker

 

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