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  1. Wee Hector

    Wee Hector Porn Star

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    In Britain, with a population of about 65-67M, we at least have polls based on at least 2,000 people. Basing a US poll on 617 people with a landline doesn't say very much. I did have to work my way back through several articles to get to the basis of the facts. It's just a pity others on here can't be bothered to do the same.
     
  2. Hush

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    Why are you guys letting the Trump minions do as they always do in all discussions over the last 8-years and derail the topic onto something ridiculous and nonsensical. That's all they have, distraction and diversion. So stay on topic and make them answer the issue or shut the hell up.

    Hush....an alias
     
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    Ivanka Trump Brand Soars to #1 on Amazon Best Sellers List

    Ivanka Trump’s line of women’s fragrances has soared to the number one spot on Amazon’s best sellers list.

    Ivanka Trump Eau de Parfum Spray For Women sits at number one on the retail giant’s top sellers list.

    Also topping the list is IVANKA TRUMP For Women 0.20 Eau de Parfum Roller Ball, which is the number two best seller on the women’s fragrances list.

    Trump’s brand products are currently beating out women’s fragrances by pop stars Jennifer Lopez and Britney Spears as well as fragrances lines from Vera Wang, Giorgio Armani, Marc Jacobs, and Versace.

    The sales spike for Trump’s beauty products comes in the wake of retailers choosing to drop the first daughter’s products from their website or physical locations.

    Last week, Burlington removed all 13 of Trump’s fashion products from its website. Earlier this month, Nordstrom said it would stop selling Ivanka Trump’s brand citing weak sales.

    Like I stated in a former post, there are a lot of imposters out there posing as business CEO's.
     
  4. Wee Hector

    Wee Hector Porn Star

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    If she is so fucking great, maybe she should be the President instead of her mentally deficient father.
     
  5. thinskin

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    FUCK YOU SHIT FOR BRAINS!

    Since you do not read then facts are irrelevant to you!

    KISS MY ARSE!!

    Thinskin
     
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      Easy there; you're going to rupture something.
       
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      Not at all.......I simply do not like you.

      You are a lying two faced cunt who perpetuates myths and legends!

      I struggle to see the difference between a extremist imam persuading some poor soul to wear a suicide vest in return for 24 virgins and you shooter who thinks that truth is a variable to be manipulated!

      ts
       
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      How arrogant. You actually think Shooter gives a bunny fart what you think?
       
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    And how much Ivanka stuff did you buy?
     
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      Well, but who said she wears panties, or that they are frilly, or that she'd give them to him anyway?

      Jesus, you Trump unsupporters make so many assumptions!
       
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      You don't make assumptions........you just make it up!

      ts
       
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    You absolutely nailed it. As soon as we prove the OP is bullshit the Trump supporters try and divert the topic to anything else except that fact.

    Its all they've got. They can't back up their arguments with facts and sources. And can't even answer simple questions. So they try to detract and derail to cover their glaring bullshit and hypocrisy.
     
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  8. Wee Hector

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    Calm down, TS. You won't get your point across by shouting at these morons. Two points:
    I think they are promised 74 virgins and not 24.
    You shouldn't address shooter as "you" as it makes it quite clear in its posts that it is a 3rd case object. In this case, the correct form of address is "Fuck the shit for brains shooter:"
    If you think the next 4 years are going to be bad for you, just wait till you see what the next 4 years have in store for the Strumpets.
     
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      I AM FUCKING CALM!;)

      ts
       
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      :D
       
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    Instead of being a goofball as usual, why don't you practice what you preach and rebut the OP article on its merits. Don't mock the publisher. Don't diss the author. The article. Rebut it. On its merits.

    That is all we are waiting for, and not one of you have even made a credible attempt.
     
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    clarise Precious princess Banned!

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    double post
     
  11. M4MPetCock

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    Former Iranian Official, Pro-Tehran Lobbyist Hosted at Obama White House Dozens of Times


    1/23/17

    Two high-level Iranian government backers, including a former Islamic Republic official and another accused of lobbying on Tehran's behalf, were hosted at the Obama White House for more than 30 meetings with top officials at key junctures in the former administration's contested diplomacy with Iran, according to White House visitor logs that provide a window into the former administration's outreach to leading pro-Iran advocates.

    Seyed Mousavian, a former Iranian diplomat and head of its national security council, was hosted at the White House at least three times, while Trita Parsi, a pro-Iran advocate long accused of hiding his ties to the Iranian government, met with Obama administration officials some 33 times, according to recently updated visitor logs.

    Sources familiar with the nature of the meetings told the Washington Free Beacon that both Parsi and Mousavian helped the White House craft its pro-Iran messaging and talking points that helped lead to the nuclear agreement with Iran. These efforts were part of a larger pro-Iran deal "echo chamber" led by senior Obama administration officials who were tasked with misleading Congress about the nature of the deal.

    Mousavian, who also served as Iran's spokesperson during negotiations with the international community on the Iran deal, visited with White House National Security Council official Robert Malley, who advised the former president about the Middle East and the Islamic State terror group.

    "Mousavian was Iran's ambassador to Germany back in the 1990s, when that embassy was the central node of Iran's European terror network and those in Germany were murdering dissidents in Berlin," one veteran Iran analyst who frequently works with Congress on the issue told the Free Beacon. "Later he came to the U.S., where he's being paid for with tens of thousands of dollars from the Ploughshares Fund, which funded the Ben Rhodes echo chamber."

    "In his writings and speeches [Mousavian] repeats the echo chamber talking points by shilling for the Iran deal, talking up fake Iranian moderation, and spinning conspiracy theories about Israelis and Arabs," the source added. "No wonder White House officials found time for him."

    Parsi, head of the National Iranian American Council, an outfit tied to the Obama White House that helped spearhead a pro-Iran narrative, met with several senior Obama administration officials during dozens of visits to the White House, the logs show.

    This included private, one-on-one meetings with Obama adviser Ben Rhodes, who helmed what he described as the White House's pro-Iran deal "echo chamber," as well as meetings with Malley and Colin Kahl, national security adviser to former Vice President Joe Biden. Parsi also met with the White House NSC's director for Iran, its senior director, legislative liaisons, and public engagement officials, according to sources familiar with the nature of these meetings.

    In one instance, Parsi was signed into the White House by Solomon Tarlin, a West Wing intern and supporter of the Middle East advocacy group J Street.

    Parsi expressed pride in his relationship with the Obama White House, telling the Free Beacon that attacks against his organization by Republicans and opponents of diplomacy of Iran did little to harm his status with the Obama team.

    "I am delighted that you are highlighting my working relationship with the Obama White House as it demonstrates how all the attacks and false accusations made against my organization utterly failed to harm our credibility in Washington," Parsi said. "Instead, we enjoyed a strong relationship with the White House that helped ensure that the Iranian nuclear crisis neither led to an Iranian bomb or war with Iran."

    Michael Rubin, a former Pentagon adviser and expert on rogue regimes, told the Free Beacon that the previous administration bent over backward to host pro-Iran advocates.

    "Talk about letting the fox into the hen house. Letting the head of an organization whose foreign policy positions are indistinguishable from the Islamic Republic more than 30 times would be analogous to letting the Soviet Union's chief lobbyist help guide policy during the Cold War," Rubin said.

    "During the Bush administration, Parsi thought nothing of dining with [Former Iranian President] Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and his private emails, released as part of a court-ordered discovery process, show that he lied to the U.S. press and coached Iranian officials in order to weaken sanctions and promote the Islamic Republic," Rubin said.

    Saeed Ghasseminejad, an associate fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and Iran expert, told the Free Beacon that the logs shed light on the close relationship between the Obama team and the pro-Iran community in the United States.

    "These logs show the depth of the close relationship between pro-Tehran groups and Obama's White House," he said. "Mr. Mousavian's visit is a red flag. Mr. Mousavian, Iran's ambassador in Berlin when Iran assassinated many of its critics in Germany, is on the record talking about the necessity of having a powerful Tehran lobby in the United States and publicly admits he is doing public diplomacy to improve the Islamic regime's image."

    "The fact that such figures or other pro-Tehran groups such as NIAC heavily contributed to Obama's Iran-policy shows that the new administration should radically change not only Iran-policy but also the Iran-teams in the responsible entities," Ghasseminejad wrote.

    Peter Kohanloo, president of the Iranian American Majority, which opposes the hardline regime in Tehran, said that advocates such as Mousavian and Parsi played a key role in ensuring the Iran deal was inked.

    "I would say the fact that the Iranian regime's top advocate had such a high level of access to the Obama White House tells you everything you need to know about how the nuclear deal was made and why President Trump rightfully called it a bad deal," Kohanloo said. "The new administration should immediately rethink its approach to the Iranian threat and discard the policies of the past."

    Mousavian did not immediately respond to Free Beacon requests for comment.
     
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    Media Covers Fake Mike Flynn Story, Ignores Bombshell on Secret Obama/Iran Meetings


    1/25/17

    If mainstream media truly wishes to repair its image with the general public, these outlets must recognize they do not merely suffer from a "bubble" reinforced by overwhelmingly liberal staffing, or from supposedly insufficient outreach to working class communities.

    The mainstream's issues are apparent in their content choices, suggesting an intractable problem. Following decades of allowing the Democratic Party to select the day's narrative, they possess no measure of professional competence for objectively judging the importance of information.

    The media's remarkably different responses to the following two stories offer a definitive example:

    1. Retired Lt. General Michael Flynn, President Trump's national security adviser, made a series of phone calls and texts to Russian Ambassador to the United States Sergey Kislyak on December 29, 2016. On that day, then-President Barack Obama had revealed that he was issuing sanctions against Russia for its supposed hacking of the Democratic National Committee.

    2. Per the Washington Free Beacon: "Two high-level Iranian government backers, including a former Islamic Republic official and another accused of lobbying on Tehran’s behalf, were hosted at the Obama White House for more than 30 meetings with top officials at key junctures in the former administration’s contested diplomacy with Iran ...

    "Sources familiar with the nature of the meetings told the Washington Free Beacon that both Parsi and Mousavian helped the White House craft its pro-Iran messaging and talking points that helped lead to the nuclear agreement with Iran. These efforts were part of a larger pro-Iran deal 'echo chamber' led by senior Obama administration officials who were tasked with misleading Congress about the nature of the deal ..."

    Just about every mainstream outlet has covered the Michael Flynn story with multiple articles: Newsweek, CNN, Daily Beast, CBS News, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, and others -- a thorough search returns dozens of high-profile sources that published highly trafficked pieces.

    Several pundits demanded answers, pointing to the calls as further evidence of Donald Trump having aligned himself with Vladimir Putin's dictatorial regime, and having allowed Putin to direct elements of his campaign and his coming presidency. Later, these same outlets announced that an "FBI investigation" into Flynn's calls and texts had commenced.

    Obama was successful -- these outlets proved to have been primed to run with later information, such as the Mike Flynn story, to further the Trump/Russia narrative.

    Now, return to yesterday's exclusive story from Adam Kredo of the Washington Free Beacon:

    Seyed Mousavian, a former Iranian diplomat and head of its national security council, was hosted at the White House at least three times, while Trita Parsi, a pro-Iran advocate long accused of hiding his ties to the Iranian government, met with Obama administration officials some 33 times, according to recently updated visitor logs.
    The implications of this story, considering Obama adviser Ben Rhodes later opened up about the extent of the Obama administration's duplicity with the public on the Iranian nuclear deal, are objectively relevant to anything else an America voter may read or believe regarding our national security. The Obama administration was surreptitiously welcoming counsel from two enemies of the state while crafting a treaty supposedly intended to prevent that enemy -- a genocidal regime with a messianic bent -- from obtaining nuclear weapons.
    ...
    These same "often-clueless" reporters the Obama administration was "ventriloquizing" were just utilized as gleeful political pawns yet again. Mike Flynn's brief calls and texts with the Russian ambassador should have immediately been dismissed as common diplomatic activity; they weren't, in service of a cynical political end sought by not just the Democratic Party, but by the media outlets themselves.

    However, the Obama White House meetings with Mousavian and Parsi -- dozens of meetings -- can not rationally be attributed as common diplomatic contact. Even after Ben Rhodes spilled his secrets -- and not due to the weight of guilt, but due to pride in his work -- we still do not know the extent of the Obama administration's deceitful behavior during the passage of a bill that holds ramifications for global stability.

    To summarize, the information uncovered by Adam Kredo is real news.

    The Flynn story has been exposed as nothing notable beyond its potential as a political club; it was fake news.

    As of this moment, not a single mainstream outlet has picked up the Adam Kredo story.

    PJ Media and other "new media" outlets have, though.

    As the mainstream continues to humiliate itself in an attempt to maintain a monopoly on information exiting Washington, D.C., the general public -- and certainly, the voters -- has developed an awareness that the mainstream's status as gatekeeper has always been artificial. It certainly never had anything to do with competence.
     
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      Why do I think this story is bullshit? Maybe the fact that the story beside it had a headline "Feminist Snowflake: Daddy-Daughter Dates Are 'Everything That Is Wrong in the World'" with a photo of a very young child holding the hand of an adult. It is nothing but a scandal sheet.
       
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    The guy that visited the white house 33 times:


    Court reveals Iranian operatives in charge of Obama’s Iran policy since 2009


    9/26/12

    A ruling handed down on September 13th by the D.C. District Federal Court has finally made clear what many have known for years–that the Obama Administration’s Iran policy was initiated and advanced by a group with illicit, hidden ties to the Iranian Regime and financed by the U.S./Israel- hating George Soros.

    In 2009, Barack Obama turned over virtually all responsibility and authority for foreign policy negotiations with Iran to Trita Parsi and his National Iranian American Council (NIAC). Founded by Parsi in 2003, the Washington-based NIAC is a powerful lobbying group that is “…widely considered the de facto lobby for the Iranian Regime in America.”

    Like too many organizations that claim to represent the best interests of the nation of Iran and Iranian-Americans, the NIAC is tightly connected with and known to be funded at least in part by the George Soros empire. Small wonder NIAC advice on dealing with Iran was replete with claims that Israeli propaganda was responsible for the negative image imposed on otherwise peace-loving, misunderstood Iranian mullahs. Not exactly a friend of Israel is George Soros.

    And how did the reputedly “non-partisan” NIAC suggest the Obama Administration proceed with negotiations? Simple. The Council “…opposes sanctions on Iran, soft-pedals any controversial events in Iran, and counsels “patience” regarding Iran’s stance towards its nuclear program.”

    What better way for NIAC representatives to serve their hidden masters in Tehran than by promoting a policy of “peaceful coexistence” between the US and Iran. And to the NIAC, peaceful coexistence meant “…acceptance of [the] Iranian government, accepting Iranian hegemony in the Gulf and its place in other parts of the Middle East, removal of sanctions and pressure against Iran, abandon of assistance to the Iranian people’s resistance against the regime and etc.”

    For the U.S., the consequences of this game of intrigue played by the Administration’s hand-picked, Iranian representatives are summed up in this statement by Barack Obama: “I’ve made it clear that the United States respects the sovereignty of the Islamic Republic of Iran, and is not interfering with Iran’s affairs.” And indeed, this is the path Barack Obama has followed. Not exactly reassuring words from a president charged with keeping the American public safe from a nuclear-bound administration of religious fanatics dedicated to our demise.

    And it is thanks to an ill-advised lawsuit that proof of the NIAC’s wrongdoing has finally been placed before the American public. In 2008, Trita Parsi and his organization filed a defamation suit against perpetual critic Seid Dai. Dai had publicly accused Parsi of secretly working with the ruling Iranian Regime against the interests of the United States and the Iranian people. But when Parsi filed suit hoping to silence-through-intimidation such potentially lethal criticism, it opened the floodgates of legal discovery allowing Dai to demand internal NIAC documents and emails that eventually “… confirmed [Parsi’s] ties to the [Iranian] mullahs…”

    Not only did recovered emails reveal that Parsi had held “…numerous secret meetings with top level IRI [Islamic Republic of Iran] officials,” “Court documents show the NIAC was guilty of: lying to members of Congress, fraudulent membership numbers, tax law violations and evasions, Lobbying Disclosure Act violation, the Foreign Agents Registration Act violations, foreign bank accounts, defrauding of federal funds, bribing of eye witnesses, etc…”

    And so egregious were NIAC attempts to duck its legal responsibilities of discovery that Judge John Bates dismissed the Parsi defamation suit, ordered sanctions against Parsi for his failure to comply with discovery, and ordered Parsi to pay significant percentages of Dai’s costs and fees.


    This is an immensely important story, not surprisingly “missed” in its entirety by the mainstream media.

    Could voters be pleased upon finding the president had placed America’s safety from possible nuclear attack in the hands of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad?
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    Exactly.

    On the one hand, I do try to minimize my use of Obama for examples of all the abuses of power that the looney left have selectively ignored. We have a real man in the White House who knows where the buck stops. Screw Obama. And I'm trying to put the damned nightmare behind me.

    But the other hand, it's impossible to resist occasionally calling these idiots out on all the stuff they ignored for eight years while they were attached to their Messiah's dripfeed.

    Like the time he told Russian principles of Medvedev, on a live mike, to wait for the US mid term elections, because then he could be more flexible in giving the store away.

    And all the back room dealing on Iran.

    And the pallets of unmarked foreign currency shipped to Iran on pallets in the dead of night for ransom.
     
  15. Hush

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    Russell's Teapot... Fictional sources do not equal facts.

    Hush....an alias
     
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    Misapplication of a concept you obviously do not understand.

    You, Stumbler, and others claim to have discredited the OP article. Stumbler certainly has not. All he has done is impeach the publication.

    Here above you claim the author used fictional sources. That's a serious charge. Do you have an example?
     
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    Is the Trump Administration going to end the Iran nuclear deal?
     
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    I have just gone through all seven pages of this thread.

    And I have verified that not one of the people who are mocking the article and its publisher have given a single example of attribution to a fictional source in the article. No one here has shown that a single quote in the article was invented by the author.

    On the other hand, I posted a first-hand account of a a live interview that I heard between the article's author and a prominent Boston radio host/journalist. You guys ignored that post. No matter. But I'll add that the host has vetted the article and has found it to be journalistically sound.

    Of course that does not mean, in and of itself, that everything in the article is true. One could still argue with the assertions made by the sources and the conclusions drawn by the author.

    But none of you have attempted to do that, either. I can understand why. Doing so would run afoul of a whole bunch of inconvenient truths.
     
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      Yes you're a saint Clarise!:rolleyes:

      ts
       
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      Clarise really; Remind yourself that you're playing chess with Pigeons. It helps. It really does.
       
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    Work on your debating skills, and knowledge. One cannot disprove a ghost source. So I say again. Russell's Teapot.

    Hush....an alias
     
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    I still find it hilarious that Trump supporters continue to try and push this obvious lie when they are directly contradicted by Trump himself.
     
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