That's all hogwash.

You don't address any of the issues. You just keep repeating the same old worn out liberal communist line. You think government control is the answer to everything.

This type of thinking is like that of Hitler and the gun laws of Nazi Germany.

Both Nazi's and Communist have similar views when it comes to gun control.

 

I said this once before and no one responded.

Require gun owners to have weapon specific insurance.
in-act financial liability gun laws.
Then let the insurance companies set the rate and requirements to hold an insurance policy.

uninsured guns to be impounded pending proof of insurance.

guns or owners in voled in a felony to be refused insurance coverage, getting guns off he steets..

Gun classes required to be insurable or get a better rate. Gun security to reduce rates,etc



Or you can waste time arguing over an out dated ineffective system that is way beyond repair

 

Prove it. If what you're saying is true you should have no trouble at all. But we both know you can't because you're just talking out your ass about stuff you don't even know.

I'll use this statement to demonstrate what a phony bullshitter you actually are. Here are the issues I addressed in the statement you quoted:

gun owners not taking the responsibility

support existing laws

and maybe make some new ones

gun safety certification

bullshit on guns being insignificant problem

guns falling our of kindergartners pockets at school.

gun owners in general blaming everyone else but themselves

support some laws and controls

stop fanning the flames of hysteria that some how the government is out to take their guns away

I just proved this statement is bullshit as well.

Nope this is an outright lie. I don't think government control is the answer to everything. I think personal responsibility and common sense solutions can help reduce the number of gun deaths and incidences of carelessness in our society BEFORE public support for gun restrictions is too loud for our politicians to ignore.

No this is bullshit as well. I'm not calling for anything except better enforcement of existing laws, more emphasis on gun responsibility and safety, and changing the dangerous myths that surrounds guns.

So you're a liar about that CS natureboy.

I doubt that but even if that's true their beliefs have nothing to do with mine and you're just trying to over dramatize because you can't respond with a reasonable and logical counter arguments top what I've said but are too scared to shut up.

 

Yawn, I think I will just ignore you like everyone else on this forum. You obviously never have ANYTHING intelligent to say. But it has been amusing watching you make a fool out of yourself, well done stumbler!

 

stumbler is one of the most respected posters here. He has plenty of intelligent things to say, even though he often muddles his message with invective.

 

I think that would be a very prudent move on your part because you obviously can't really discuss anything and this is what appears to me to be a really impotent attempt at you trying to save face because you can rebut my arguments.

And I don't think you're right about me not saying anything intelligent especially since you can't even respond to it and can only offer these petty and impotent personal attacks.

 

LMAO, save face from who or what? Do really believe I take anything you say seriously? If I want to discuss politics with someone, this forum would probably not be the best choice. But this has been amusing. It's even better now that you think I really care! LOL Until I get bored again stumbler....

 

See you just proved yourself phony again. You said you were going to ignore me didn't you? You don't even know what you think.

 

No doubt that rational gun control is mainly lacking in most US states.

We seem to either ban them outright or allow unlimited ownership, with a majority of states somewhere in between. Yet gun violence both intentional and accidental, in the US, is still greater than in most other countries. We are a nation who was forged by the gun, in lawless frontiers and in wars with our neighbors, so the romance is well defined.

Your idea of insurance could be a part of reasonable regulation, but I'm afraid that it would do little to rid us of illegally possessed firearms. The criminal element will still have uninsured/unregistered weapons. Tougher gun laws are not really needed either, IMO, what we lack is more stringent enforcement of the laws already on the books. Coupled with better firearm education for our young people, we might see a greater reduction in death and injuries by firearm..

 

Oh, the irony

I've maintained on this thread that anytime we have kids getting their hands on guns we have a gun problem in this nation. And I've been posting examples of kids taking guns to school or accidental shootings.

But I have to admit due to my own biases some of these shootings can seem ironic as well as tragic.

HATEWATCH: 10-YEAR-OLD SON HELD IN DEATH OF CALIFORNIA NEO-NAZI LEADER

http://kathmanduk2.wordpress.com/20...-held-in-death-of-california-neo-nazi-leader/

 

You have also maintained that you advocate firearms education for the youth of our country, this makes guns finding their way into the hands of children mandatory.

I know that is not what you meant by your opening statement in this post, but too many would view it as an endorsement to NOT allow children to learn the proper handling and care of firearms.

The number of times that firearms unintentionally fall into the hands of children is still far less than children driving automobiles and handling other weapons, resulting in death or injury.

 

I guess you really need to be a raving asshole to motivate your ten year old to stay up until 4AM in the morning to knock your ass off.

I feel very little sympathy for a prick like that who damaged a child to the point that the child went to that extreme to get away from the abusive parent. I feel only pity for the child, nothing for the adult. It is unfortunate that the child's life was ruined in so many ways by the failed parent.

 

I share the same sympathies but fail to see a first degree murder conviction as much of an escape.

 

I agree more law is not the answer. Inforcement is the issue.
The differance in the isurance aproach and the legal approach is that the legal approach is after the fact and insurance is proactive (Before the fact) control.
Anther facter is that control by law is supported by tax dollars. By insurance the control is funded by the gun owners.

 

Not quite true, while the insurance idea does have merit as a supplemental control, in fact, many states already require a bond is posted when issuing permits.

Most gun control enforcement is funded by sportsman licenses in most states. However, you still ignore the fact that the preponderance of criminal activity involving firearms are carried out with unregistered and/or stolen weapons. The insurance angle does nothing to curtail that sector of firearm abuses.

It is the accidental death or injury that would be covered, however, many such cases are already covered by home owners and/or personal liability policies.

 

Gun Control Laws are a joke. They don't work. The law abiding people who follow the laws are the only one who will follow them. Bad people will get guns one way or another.

 

I am surprised the left wing anti gun nuts haven't tried to restrict or stop the production and sale of ammunition.

 

it is pretty solid bullshit that a 10 year old could be tried as an adult. premeditated true but the reasoning portions of his brain aren't even fully formed at that point.

it is a hell of an add for being a better parent to your kiddos. . .