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  1. RandyKnight

    RandyKnight Have Gun, Will Travel

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    Clinton takes Iowa, beating back Sanders' strong challenge

    DES MOINES, Iowa — Hillary Clinton has narrowly won the Democratic caucuses in Iowa, outpacing a surprisingly strong challenge from Bernie Sanders to claim the first victory in the 2016 race for president.

    The former secretary of state, senator from New York and first lady edged past the Vermont senator in a race the Iowa Democratic Party called the closest in its caucus history.

    The Iowa Democratic Party said Tuesday that it would not do any recount of the close results, and a spokesman for the Sanders campaign said it does not intend to challenge the results of the caucuses
     
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  2. M4MPetCock

    M4MPetCock Porn Star Banned!

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    Well, it took the toss of a coin in six precincts for her to be declared winner in those. If Bernie's people had bothered to pay attention, they'd have seen those precincts were using two-headed versions of these:

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  3. clarise

    clarise Precious princess Banned!

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    She was supposed to trounce the lily-livered communist. That it was even close means victory for Sanders.
     
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      Gee, I wonder why they came out so strong yesterday afternoon with the Bernie wins projection. Manipulate much?
       
      tenguy, Feb 3, 2016
    2. ace's n 8's
      Tenguy, Bernie did win, the Iowa results should have been;

      The Hillary 65%

      Sanders 33%

      other no name leftist 2%

      New Hampshire will swallow The Hillary, and South Carolina will not be any friendlier to her, she may win, but not like she should.
       
      ace's n 8's, Feb 3, 2016
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  4. shootersa

    shootersa Frisky Feline

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    Here's the thing;
    IF Hilary wins the nomination she's going to be campaigning with the e Mail scandal tied around her neck like a dead albatross.
    She needs to confront this thing once and for all, get indicted or be vindicated. Otherwise, Shooter predicts, she'll be indicted just about the time of the nomination.
    Then what will the Democrats do?

    And yes, Shooter knows some members will be running in shouting "Republican Hate Machine fake scandal" .............. the reality is, this thing isn't going away until she confronts it head on. Fake scandal, witch hunt (pun intended) or a new version of Watergate; whatever it is, she needs to get the fuck in front of it.
     
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  5. ace's n 8's

    ace's n 8's Porn Star

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    Listen, this bitch would rather climb to the top of a tree, hang on a branch that, even a squirrel would question, and tell a lie, rather than stand on flat ground and tell the truth.

    She has zero credibility, let the FBI handle the rest of this.
     
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  6. NoOneFamous

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    Never said Obama was blameless
     
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  7. NoOneFamous

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    dup
     
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  8. clarise

    clarise Precious princess Banned!

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    I heard something the other day that blew my mind: the Benghazi investigation is still open and active.

    Surprising, isn't it? You can't read about it anywhere, because the media is actively shielding Hillary. Yet it's true.

    Back in the fall, she testified publicly on her own insistence, and it was a big PR stunt. That's the only Congressional testimony that people are aware of, and before anyone had time to read the transcript, the mainstream media decreed that she'd come out unscathed, no revelations, case closed.

    Well, this couldn't be further from the truth.

    In a radio interview the chair of the investigation said that while the public is aware of that one PR stunt, there have been 69 other interviews, most of which were far more informative and constructive. The investigative committee has made no official report, and the investigation is still active, and there will be no report, one way or other, until the investigation is completed. It will not be completed on Hillary's timetable, or the New York Times's timetable, or MSNBC's timetable. The investigation will take as long as it needs to take, and it will conclude when it concludes.

    Will Hillary's State Department be found complicit in Chris Stevens's death, or his defenders, or the deaths of the hundreds of people worldwide who perished in riots instigated by the State Department's conflation of the "anti-Moslem-video-myth?" Who knows? It is useless to speculate. Will Benghazi spoil her legacy? Who knows?

    But we can be sure of this: the skeletons in her closet are still rattling. And nothing that comes out of this investigation will be good for her legacy.
     
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  9. ridgerunner

    ridgerunner gardener of stone

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  10. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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  11. ridgerunner

    ridgerunner gardener of stone

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    so as long as they dont run for president it is ok by you?
    nice way to prove that it is all about keeping her from office
    god you all must be very afraid
     
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  12. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    Afraid, no, not at all. When to people go to the polls to actually vote, we will see who prevails. But your tactic of trying to paint the other side with the same brush is very lame. You seem to be the one who is shaking in his boots.
     
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  13. shootersa

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    What's really being missed in all this is the eternal, continuing revelations about how corrupt our government is.
    The IRS scandal; the fact that people responsible for fucking with non profit status for political gain walked away from the mess with their pensions and freedom intact. You know, after hard drives containing damning e Mails were "erased".
    The Benghazi scandal; that four people, including an ambassador died ..........fuck, you know the story.
    The State dept. e mail scandal. What did they know and when did they know it?

    Many more; the point is, the movers and shakers in Washington arrogantly think the law doesn't apply to them, and when called out, arrogantly take a "fuck you" attitude, their pension, and a job as a lobbyist.
     
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      Yes indeed. But the e Mail scandal is so much more than "classified material" that wasn't "classified" until after the fact. You need to study up.
       
      shootersa, Feb 5, 2016
    3. ridgerunner
      i have studied it from many angles and not once can i find 1 shred of evidence that there was any act that would be illegal the emails were not classified at the time there is no false testimony, destruction of evidence, or even evasion of investigation
       
      ridgerunner, Feb 5, 2016
    4. shootersa
      Then you haven't been studying the right sources.
       
      shootersa, Feb 5, 2016
    5. ridgerunner
      what law or statute was violated? there is not 1 mention about any actual laws being violated so educate us all
       
      ridgerunner, Feb 5, 2016
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      rr is just another fool being manipulated by the powerful. Even when they are forced to prosecute, what happens? Either a deal is struck and the perp resigns OR he or she is promised a pardon. C'mon how dense can we be? As long as we continue to fight among ourselves about which party is the lesser of the two evils, the more we get the short end of the stick. Wake up America.
       
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  14. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    Ethics and politics seem to be like oil and water, the dodge by the left in this situation is so bloody typical of a Clinton era tactic. Oh, you mean I wasn't supposed to send classified information over the internet on an unsecured server?? Why didn't someone tell me that? Sure I have a law degree, yes my husband was chief executive and yes we were briefed on the handling of classified material. But, this happened when I was Sec'y of State, I did know it pertained to me in that position, even though anything the President knew about classified material, I also knew.

    Fucking idiots in here who think she didn't, allegedly, breech any laws are delusional. I absolutely believe in the rule of law in our country, I believe in due process under those laws, I resign myself to accepting the final verdict in any legal case that might be adjudicated in our court system. And until the verdict is given by a jury of her peers, or a tribunal that meets the requirements of her position, I will consider her innocent.

    But, I am not a fucking fool, what I think in my heart of hearts is, that she is a lying conniving bitch, who learned her craft well at the side of her mentors, all of whom are masters of deceit.
     
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      Information that was clearly sensitive and considered secret was stored on her server in e Mails she received and sent. Her aid was stripping information out of top secret documents and sending it to Hilary. So, "technically" what she sent and received wasn't classified "top secret", meaning it wasn't labeled as such, but she had to have known. It was set up that way. She and her aides also specifically requested a PC "outside of State department networks" to send and receive e mails.
      Mrs. Clinton was Secretary of state, former first lady, and either knew this process was intended to circumvent public record laws and accountability, or was so freaking stupid she should not be permitted out on the streets without a handler.
       
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  15. ridgerunner

    ridgerunner gardener of stone

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    tenidiot go fuck yourself
    condi did the same fucking thing and you defended it by saying that since she is not running for pres it doesnt matter
    and like i told shooter
    what law was violated state the law or statute number
     
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      So when the FBI eventually releases the results of it's investigation we'll know, won't we? And then you'll either crow with glee or declare yet another Republican Hate Machine plot.
      Time will tell.
       
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  16. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    Conde is not running for president, if see does then go after her. In the meantime, deflections like this are just that deflections.

    Which laws she is being investigated under:
    1.) The Federal Records Act
    2.) The Freedom of Information Act
    3.) The National Records and Archives Administration's regulations
    4.) The US Crimes and Criminal Procures Code (Section 1924 of Title 18)

    Any other questions?
     
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  17. ridgerunner

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    federal records act was post term for both
    FOI its all out there minus the redacted
    and all the rest is a stretch

    US Crimes and Criminal Procures Code (Section 1924 of Title 18)
    § 1924. Unauthorized removal and retention of
    classified documents or material
    (a) Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or
    contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of
    the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with
    the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined
    under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.


    but isnt it a fact that you are saying she deleted said info? so how did she keep it?
    and why arent you banging the condi jail drum as well
     
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  18. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    How fucking simple are you??

    First Hillary has not been charged with any crime, yet. Second, she is being investigated for alleged crimes and/or violations of procedure, the investigation is not complete. Those questions are best asked of those involved in the investigation, it is not necessarily public record. Third, she IS running for the highest office in our country, some say the world, she has to be compliant with rules and regulations.

    Condi Rice is NOT running for office, she may have violated procedure and may have broken laws, but unless someone petitions a court or Congress decides to open an investigation, this point has nothing whatsoever to do with Hillary.
     
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  19. ridgerunner

    ridgerunner gardener of stone

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    yeah yea i dont even have to read your excuses we all know the script
    but but but but
    fuck off pussy
     
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      fuck votes i want my tax money back for every fucking penny wasted on bullshit you excuse them spending it for their gain well it is our loss so they now owe it back fuck political capital they got paid by their owners while they wasted our money and you bitch about the left spending money on medicare and medicaid?
       
      ridgerunner, Feb 5, 2016
    3. tenguy
      You have to be on something.
       
      tenguy, Feb 5, 2016
    4. ridgerunner
      no i dont have to be on anything you have to be fucked in the head to think that we should allow unlimited funds for any investigation that finds nothing in 5 or more years they have not found anything in all of the years they have targeted her yet they still harp that magic IRS tea party scandal bullshit and refuse to accept that the original complaint was reported by the coffee party
       
      ridgerunner, Feb 5, 2016
    5. tenguy
      Clinton was impeached, Nixon was not, yet the same amount of money was spent on each investigation. You bitch about one, but not the other.

      To think that members of Congress should have personal financial responsibity for what they do while serving their term, is lunacy. BUT, they (including any sworn official) certainly should be held legally responsible for breaches in ethics and/or criminal acts.
       
      tenguy, Feb 5, 2016
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  20. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    Ain't it ironic that Hillary supporters are so in denial? Particularly since they accused the Bush supporters of the same thing just a few short years ago.

    Oops, excuse me,they STILL blame Bush for what Hillary and Obama do.
     
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